Difference between revisions of "Talk:Palestine"

Revision as of 14:43, 15 August 2018

Dispute

So it comes to this. Like everything called Palestine this page is under dispute.

On one side: If there is a state of Palestine it does not nor has ever had, have any control over any places that have had successful documented geohash expeditions. In the Territory of Judea and Samaria there has only been up until now one geohasher: Yosef (talk) 10:13, 15 August 2018 (UTC). Yosef will not call these areas Palestine because of the previous sentence.

On the other side: Some people really want to trust Palestinians.

Yosef (talk) 10:13, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Independently of the issue, I think it's a bit childish to make a proposal (which should be made on the Discussion page, anyway) and 35 minutes later editing it so it becomes a definition without any other geohasher's input. Please, think your edits before doing them and discuss them. I won't undo your last edits, but I hope you do so we can reach any kind of agreement on the topic before changing the page. Gormaz (talk) 11:14, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

I was waiting to see how the discussion developed before saying anything more, but Yosef has asked me to weight in.

I don't know much about the issue, but it seems that most of the world recognizes the State of Palestine (except, mostly, NATO members and, obviously, Israel [1]) and in regards to the UN it's a non-member observant state, that is, a state. Therefore, it sure makes sense to have a page for it in the wiki.

Regarding what should be considered Palestine, it seems that the State of Palestine and all the countries that recognize it consider Palestine to be the whole West Bank and Gaza, if I'm not mistaken.

Lastly, I don't think not having controlled over some territory is enough reason not to consider that territory part of the country. Gormaz (talk) 14:43, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

A Short Timeline of the Disputed Territories

1517: Ottoman Empire Rule

1918: British Empire Rule

1948: Jordanian Rule

1967: Israeli Rule

1994: Area A: Palestinian; Area B: Joint; Area C: Israeli;

Please note that Area C has never been under the rule of any entity that could be considered a modern State of Palestine.

Yosef (talk) 10:47, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

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 :Independently of the issue, I think it's a bit childish to make a proposal (which should be made on the Discussion page, anyway) and 35 minutes later editing it so it becomes a definition without any other geohasher's input. Please, think your edits before doing them and discuss them. I won't undo your last edits, but I hope you do so we can reach any kind of agreement on the topic before changing the page. [[User:Gormaz|Gormaz]] ([[User talk:Gormaz|talk]]) 11:14, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
+:I was waiting to see how the discussion developed before saying anything more, but Yosef has asked me to weight in.
+:I don't know much about the issue, but it seems that most of the world recognizes the State of Palestine (except, mostly, NATO members and, obviously, Israel [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_recognition_of_the_State_of_Palestine#/media/File:Palestine_recognition_only.svg]) and in regards to the UN it's a non-member observant state, that is, a state. Therefore, it sure makes sense to have a page for it in the wiki.
+:Regarding what should be considered Palestine, it seems that the State of Palestine and all the countries that recognize it consider Palestine to be the whole West Bank and Gaza, if I'm not mistaken.
+:Lastly, I don't think not having controlled over some territory is enough reason not to consider that territory part of the country. [[User:Gormaz|Gormaz]] ([[User talk:Gormaz|talk]]) 14:43, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
 ==A Short Timeline of the Disputed Territories==