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I don't suppose we could agree to move our graticule, to center it on the Science Museum, say? Geohashing is a clever idea and sounds like fun, but I wouldn't drive very far to a meetup. If others would, fine, have fun. I'll wait until one hits close to home. -- Ford | I don't suppose we could agree to move our graticule, to center it on the Science Museum, say? Geohashing is a clever idea and sounds like fun, but I wouldn't drive very far to a meetup. If others would, fine, have fun. I'll wait until one hits close to home. -- Ford | ||
:No; the whole idea is to base the coordinates on integral degrees. I'd like to as well, but for the time being, moving the entire coordinate system for Minneapolis wouldn't be very considerate of the rest of the entire planet. [[User:Ironiridis|Ironiridis]] 18:29, 22 May 2008 (UTC) | :No; the whole idea is to base the coordinates on integral degrees. I'd like to as well, but for the time being, moving the entire coordinate system for Minneapolis wouldn't be very considerate of the rest of the entire planet. [[User:Ironiridis|Ironiridis]] 18:29, 22 May 2008 (UTC) | ||
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Obviously no region can expect anyone else to change for their convenience, but what's the point of a wiki if regions can't adapt to local conditions? We could, for example, agree to meet at the nearest bar or coffeehouse to the target location, especially in winter. Or we could subtract half a degree from the target latitude to center more on Twin Cities. Or maybe EVERYONE would agree that half-degree graticules would save gas. I recognize that any departure from the "standard" could cause confusion, especially for out-of-graticule or first-time visitors. On the other hand, I don't see integral degrees as key. Who decided there should be 360 degrees in a circle, anyway? Radians are less arbitrary. -- Ford | Obviously no region can expect anyone else to change for their convenience, but what's the point of a wiki if regions can't adapt to local conditions? We could, for example, agree to meet at the nearest bar or coffeehouse to the target location, especially in winter. Or we could subtract half a degree from the target latitude to center more on Twin Cities. Or maybe EVERYONE would agree that half-degree graticules would save gas. I recognize that any departure from the "standard" could cause confusion, especially for out-of-graticule or first-time visitors. On the other hand, I don't see integral degrees as key. Who decided there should be 360 degrees in a circle, anyway? Radians are less arbitrary. -- Ford | ||
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:But the concept behind the generation of the positions is what is key here. What Randall designed was a universal rule that worked no matter where you are, and there isn't a significant enough reason to change it. We could have a local rendition, but then you create a division among those who want to follow what Randall designed (eg me) and what ends up being more convenient (eg you). I see your point, and it's valid, but the integral degree system that he created unifies people into doing something consistent and predictable. [[User:Ironiridis|Ironiridis]] 17:09, 23 May 2008 (UTC) | :But the concept behind the generation of the positions is what is key here. What Randall designed was a universal rule that worked no matter where you are, and there isn't a significant enough reason to change it. We could have a local rendition, but then you create a division among those who want to follow what Randall designed (eg me) and what ends up being more convenient (eg you). I see your point, and it's valid, but the integral degree system that he created unifies people into doing something consistent and predictable. [[User:Ironiridis|Ironiridis]] 17:09, 23 May 2008 (UTC) | ||
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| + | I don't think that's a good idea either. My suggestion is: go to the ones that are reachable, no matter which graticule that it is in. Obviously you live close enough to the other graticule in order to claim local-ness to it at least. I plan on going to NW or SW ones (and maybe even St Paul ones) given how split our Twin Cities are. [[User:Jamuraa|Jamuraa]] 18:35, 26 May 2008 (UTC) | ||
== Split city?? == | == Split city?? == | ||
While I'm not a local to the area, I'd like to make a suggestion that both Minneapolis graticules combine. Reference [[Split city]] for examples of already existing split city pages. | While I'm not a local to the area, I'd like to make a suggestion that both Minneapolis graticules combine. Reference [[Split city]] for examples of already existing split city pages. | ||
Revision as of 18:35, 26 May 2008
I don't suppose we could agree to move our graticule, to center it on the Science Museum, say? Geohashing is a clever idea and sounds like fun, but I wouldn't drive very far to a meetup. If others would, fine, have fun. I'll wait until one hits close to home. -- Ford
- No; the whole idea is to base the coordinates on integral degrees. I'd like to as well, but for the time being, moving the entire coordinate system for Minneapolis wouldn't be very considerate of the rest of the entire planet. Ironiridis 18:29, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
Obviously no region can expect anyone else to change for their convenience, but what's the point of a wiki if regions can't adapt to local conditions? We could, for example, agree to meet at the nearest bar or coffeehouse to the target location, especially in winter. Or we could subtract half a degree from the target latitude to center more on Twin Cities. Or maybe EVERYONE would agree that half-degree graticules would save gas. I recognize that any departure from the "standard" could cause confusion, especially for out-of-graticule or first-time visitors. On the other hand, I don't see integral degrees as key. Who decided there should be 360 degrees in a circle, anyway? Radians are less arbitrary. -- Ford
- But the concept behind the generation of the positions is what is key here. What Randall designed was a universal rule that worked no matter where you are, and there isn't a significant enough reason to change it. We could have a local rendition, but then you create a division among those who want to follow what Randall designed (eg me) and what ends up being more convenient (eg you). I see your point, and it's valid, but the integral degree system that he created unifies people into doing something consistent and predictable. Ironiridis 17:09, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
I don't think that's a good idea either. My suggestion is: go to the ones that are reachable, no matter which graticule that it is in. Obviously you live close enough to the other graticule in order to claim local-ness to it at least. I plan on going to NW or SW ones (and maybe even St Paul ones) given how split our Twin Cities are. Jamuraa 18:35, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
Split city??
While I'm not a local to the area, I'd like to make a suggestion that both Minneapolis graticules combine. Reference Split city for examples of already existing split city pages.
