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I searched for past mentions of "flag"/"flags" and found expeditions such as [[2012-07-04 47 -122]] where geohashers brought flags (or images thereof) and sometimes even left them to mark the point. It might be good to clarify whether bringing a flag to the geohash qualifies for the achievement - I would guess that it doesn't fit the intended spirit? On the other hand, allowing spotting a flag that another geohasher left could be fun and avoids issues about determining the provenance of every flag. Perhaps there should be a requirement that the flag was present before you arrived? (It need not still be present after you leave, in case [[geotrashing]] is appropriate.) [[User:Coyotebush|Coyotebush]] ([[User talk:Coyotebush|talk]]) 10:37, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
 
I searched for past mentions of "flag"/"flags" and found expeditions such as [[2012-07-04 47 -122]] where geohashers brought flags (or images thereof) and sometimes even left them to mark the point. It might be good to clarify whether bringing a flag to the geohash qualifies for the achievement - I would guess that it doesn't fit the intended spirit? On the other hand, allowing spotting a flag that another geohasher left could be fun and avoids issues about determining the provenance of every flag. Perhaps there should be a requirement that the flag was present before you arrived? (It need not still be present after you leave, in case [[geotrashing]] is appropriate.) [[User:Coyotebush|Coyotebush]] ([[User talk:Coyotebush|talk]]) 10:37, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
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:Adding to this, what if a different Geohasher brings a flag to the meetup? [[User:Rkschlotte|Rkschlotte]] brought the flag of Elmshorn to the globalhash in Mülheim. --[[User:Fippe|Fippe]] ([[User talk:Fippe|talk]]) 14:11, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

Revision as of 14:11, 9 December 2024

This is a proposal made on 2024-11-19. Please leave comments and suggestions below, indicating your thoughts on the proposal, including:
  • Support - you think this proposal should be added with zero or minor changes
  • Do not oppose - you think it's boring/meh/not for you, but it wouldn't harm to have it created
  • Oppose - you have a specific reason as to why this ribbon should not exist (state this reasoning in your comment)
  • Needs work - you think the achievement should be created after more significant changes have been made

See Proposed achievements for more information on this process.

New Discussion

Support - I see this as an "acknowledging an interesting experience" kind of achievement, and the requirement to be at the geohash makes it uncommon and thus interesting. Identifying the flag is a minor effort also rewarded, so I like encouraging that. I made a couple changes to the template for consideration:

  1. Added an optional parameter to identify the flag, to help encourage this. If it's important to have fixed text referring to flags, we could add something fun like "by spotting X waving in the breeze" or restrict the format to something like "by spotting the [X] flag(s) [of Y]".
  2. Simplified the wording for the honorable mention case.

Coyotebush (talk) 18:37, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

Support --Fippe (talk) 15:06, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

Comments taken from Discord

  • I quite like this --Kyrkazakh (talk) 03:29, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
  • I like the idea --Thomcat (talk) 20:33, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
  • I support the achievement, even though it is not an interesting one in my area. Seeing any Australian flags is generally a bad sign. We don't really have any district/city flags that have any kind of widespread use. --Stevage (talk) 10:41, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
    IMHO tweaking the name to "Vexillologist achievement" would improve it slightly. Stevage (talk) 02:31, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
    +1, had the same thought, though either way would fit with existing achievement names. Coyotebush (talk) 10:10, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
    Fair, I was between Vexillology and Vexillologist when creating the proposal. If the proposal is approved, the approver can rename the page to Vexillologist achievement if they wish, I have no preference. --KerrMcF (talk) 00:10, 2 December 2024 (UTC)

Bringing your own flag?

I searched for past mentions of "flag"/"flags" and found expeditions such as 2012-07-04 47 -122 where geohashers brought flags (or images thereof) and sometimes even left them to mark the point. It might be good to clarify whether bringing a flag to the geohash qualifies for the achievement - I would guess that it doesn't fit the intended spirit? On the other hand, allowing spotting a flag that another geohasher left could be fun and avoids issues about determining the provenance of every flag. Perhaps there should be a requirement that the flag was present before you arrived? (It need not still be present after you leave, in case geotrashing is appropriate.) Coyotebush (talk) 10:37, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

Adding to this, what if a different Geohasher brings a flag to the meetup? Rkschlotte brought the flag of Elmshorn to the globalhash in Mülheim. --Fippe (talk) 14:11, 9 December 2024 (UTC)