Talk:Holiday achievement
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Past Votes
This achievement was first suggested at Valentine's achievement before being moved to Talk:Towel_Day_achievement and then moved here. These are the votes from the previous pages.
- Support --Fippe (talk) 09:31, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
- "...an entirely new achievement, which I would support" --π π π (talk) 17:20, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
New Votes
- Support It's cute. I would improve the wording a bit to explain what "holiday" means - it has different meanings in different countries. (Notably in Australia it basically means "vacation" whereas we would say "public holiday" for a special day on which most people don't work.) Stevage (talk) 02:04, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- Do not oppose. But it needs more effort than wearing green on St Patrick's Day! Bottomley Potts (talk) 08:43, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- May I ask why? Wearing green is a traditional and very common way for people to celebrate St Patrick's Day, why should this not count towards the achievement? --KerrMcF (talk) 18:30, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- I agree that wearing green is in the spirit of the holiday and should qualify under the current definition of the achievement. If we want this achievement to require more effort, we would have to define what's constitute sufficient effort. For me, anything deliberate and sufficiently-related that celebrates the Holiday and requires some planning (such as wearing green) should be enough. Otherwise bringing a towel to Towel Day shouldn't count either. --Baarde (talk) 10:10, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Head to toe green, yes. Plain khaki t-shirt, no. If I can look at two photos of you at two different hashpoints and not be able to guess which one was taken on St. Patrick's Day, that's not enough effort. Bottomley Potts (talk) 23:39, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- I agree that wearing green is in the spirit of the holiday and should qualify under the current definition of the achievement. If we want this achievement to require more effort, we would have to define what's constitute sufficient effort. For me, anything deliberate and sufficiently-related that celebrates the Holiday and requires some planning (such as wearing green) should be enough. Otherwise bringing a towel to Towel Day shouldn't count either. --Baarde (talk) 10:10, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- May I ask why? Wearing green is a traditional and very common way for people to celebrate St Patrick's Day, why should this not count towards the achievement? --KerrMcF (talk) 18:30, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- Needs work. I feel like this needs some kind of clarification of what counts as a holiday. My suggestion would be that some kind of officially recognized holiday in the local area should be a requirement. If not, does any claimed "holiday" count? Can the achievement be earned by eating a burger on National Burger Day? Or being both transgender and visible to the naked eye on Transgender Visibility Day? Right now as written it is unclear, but if it's amended to state what counts as a holiday I will change to do not oppose. --Tarasaurus (talk) 09:39, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Added clarification on what is considered valid for the achievement. National Days are not valid as there are between 2 and 5 each day, most of which are far too easy to achieve (for example, the achievement would be possible on July 13th by appreciating barbershop music, having "Beans 'N' Franks", or being in Delaware). --KerrMcF (talk) 21:45, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hmm, I don't really agree eith this, it makes it difficult to draw the line. I'd prefer being less restrictive, i.e. it can be any holiday that you did not just make up. If someone demonstrates their appreciation of barbershop music on the 13th of July, I'll happily let them claim this achievement. --Fippe (talk) 22:25, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- Maybe a restriction on the amount of effort is required instead, perhaps by simply doing something out of the ordinary/making an effort to actually do something? We don't want to be too restrictive, but just being in Delaware (as per the previous example) is not enough effort. Do you think something like not using a plastic bag (July 3rd) should not count, but something like picking strawberries (May 20th) should, as it actually requires doing something additional to get the achievement? My only hesitance with this is that it would allow the achievement to be claimed for every single expedition, should a geohasher decide to do something relatively small during their expedition (like having a Coke at the 05-08 geohash). --KerrMcF (talk) 22:26, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- I am personally ok with either way as long as it's clearly worded what does and does not count. The more restrictive definition is fine for maintaining achievements as a 'special' thing for particular expeditions, and the less restrictive definition is perfectly in line with geohashing being silly and quirky in random ways. Both are perfectly acceptable to me, so I've updated my previous vote to do not oppose. --Tarasaurus (talk) 15:45, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- I'm also personally happy with including national days and other similar things. This achievement better fits the silliness than anything else, and originally my intention was for these to be included (I actually attempted one at one point, but accidentally looked at the wrong day). I'll change it back to include these, with a specific mention that they are included, since I think that's what you're saying was the important part. --KerrMcF (talk) 15:32, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- Support and prefer it being as unrestrictive as possible. I'm not sure if the current consensus is for this to replace Towel Day or exist alongside it, but I definitely favour keeping Towel Day as a separate achievement because replacing someone's Towel Day ribbon with a Holiday achievement ribbon takes away a lot of the implied accomplishment - for Towel Day you need to reach a hash on the specific date, whereas for the Holiday achievement you can wait for an accessible hashpoint and then pick a holiday on the date. --PeterRoder (talk) 16:50, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
