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Trebuhole is what I named my model trebuchet.  It has been fired a few times in the past but I was inspired by the [[Bangarang]] to play with it some more.  I had an [[Image_talk:Roughtrebuchetdiagram.jpg|interesting discussion]] with [[User:James.|James.]] about the horse being used as a payload, and about the length of the sling ropes.
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Trebuhole is what I named my model trebuchet.  It has been fired a few times in the past but I was inspired by [[Bangarang]] to play with it some more.  I had an [[Image_talk:Roughtrebuchetdiagram.jpg|interesting discussion]] with [[User:James.|James.]] about the horse being used as a payload, and about the length of the sling ropes.
  
 
== Technical Specifications ==
 
== Technical Specifications ==
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== Dead Horse Analysis ==
 
== Dead Horse Analysis ==
 
My brother mentioned that since the trebuchet is a siege weapon, it would be beneficial to give disease to the enemy hiding within the castle/town walls.  My son then asked if the horse would have AIDS.  My brother replied that the horse could have AIDS, but that such a horse would only be beneficial to the attackers if the attackees were necrophiliacs who enjoy interspecies erotica.
 
My brother mentioned that since the trebuchet is a siege weapon, it would be beneficial to give disease to the enemy hiding within the castle/town walls.  My son then asked if the horse would have AIDS.  My brother replied that the horse could have AIDS, but that such a horse would only be beneficial to the attackers if the attackees were necrophiliacs who enjoy interspecies erotica.
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[[Image:Trebuhole_Horsesetup.JPG|thumb|200 px|Horse inserted backwards]]
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[[Image:Trebuhole_Horsefail.JPG|thumb|100 px|Horse Fail]]
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[[Image:Trebuhole_Legohorsesetup.JPG|thumb|100 px|L5=11 inches]]
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[[Image:Trebuhole_Longstringsetup.JPG|thumb|100 px|L5=19 inches]]
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[[Image:Trebuhole_Legocastle.JPG|thumb|100 px|Castle (Target)]]
  
 
== Preliminary Attempt ==
 
== Preliminary Attempt ==
I decided to use a relatively large toy horse as my payload to attempt to figure out if doing so is feasible. This is the setup: [[Image:Trebuhole Horsesetup.JPG]]
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I decided to use a relatively large toy horse as my payload to attempt to figure out if doing so is feasible.
  
Unfortunately, the horse was inserted backwards, and the legs caught on the sling and the [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuvR-ypTHMI launch was unsuccessful]. [[Image:Trebuhole Horsefail.JPG]]
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Unfortunately, the horse was inserted backwards, and the legs caught on the sling and the [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuvR-ypTHMI launch was unsuccessful].
  
 
== Subsequent Attempts ==
 
== Subsequent Attempts ==
I had my kids build a castle out of Legos as a target for the Trebuhole.  [[Image:Trebuhole_Legocastle.JPG]]
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I had my kids build a castle out of Legos as a target for the Trebuhole.   
 
 
 
I then set up a lego horse facing the correct way (legs toward bottom of swing arm).  The sling length (L5) here is 11 inches.
 
I then set up a lego horse facing the correct way (legs toward bottom of swing arm).  The sling length (L5) here is 11 inches.
[[Image:Trebuhole Legohorsesetup.JPG]]
 
  
 
I also set up Trebuhole with a longer sling rope length (L5=19 inches) using some blue string.
 
I also set up Trebuhole with a longer sling rope length (L5=19 inches) using some blue string.
[[Image:Trebuhole Longstringsetup.JPG]]
 
  
 
There was some argument as to whether an elastic string in the sling rope would affect the outcome.  So the rope was also replaced by an elastic string.  L5 when the elastic was at rest was 11", and L5 when the elastic was fully extended was 16".
 
There was some argument as to whether an elastic string in the sling rope would affect the outcome.  So the rope was also replaced by an elastic string.  L5 when the elastic was at rest was 11", and L5 when the elastic was fully extended was 16".
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At L5=19", the [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HTlBZsR8pc Lego horse was launched] 52".
 
At L5=19", the [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HTlBZsR8pc Lego horse was launched] 52".
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For the elastic string, the [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmYhiRpWEnY Lego horse was launched] 154".
  
 
== Conclusion ==
 
== Conclusion ==
The shorter sling rope length seems to be better for Trebuhole.  I believe that the sling falls off of the track or otherwise gets messed up during the launch, hindering the long string launch distance.  However, this may differ for other trebuchets.
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The shorter sling rope length seems to be better for Trebuhole.  I believe that the sling falls off of the track or otherwise gets messed up during the launch, hindering the longer string launch distance.  However, this may differ for other trebuchets.
  
 
== Aftermath ==
 
== Aftermath ==
 
After many unsuccessful attempts to have Trebuhole hit the castle with horses and rocks, my kids and I ended up [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIF8FZ-Z_qs throwing a bunch of rocks at the castle].
 
After many unsuccessful attempts to have Trebuhole hit the castle with horses and rocks, my kids and I ended up [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIF8FZ-Z_qs throwing a bunch of rocks at the castle].
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[[Category:Trebuchet]]

Latest revision as of 19:29, 24 June 2008

Trebuhole is what I named my model trebuchet. It has been fired a few times in the past but I was inspired by Bangarang to play with it some more. I had an interesting discussion with James. about the horse being used as a payload, and about the length of the sling ropes.

Technical Specifications

As shown in the Rough Trebuchet Diagram, there are some measurements that must be considered for trebuchets. Trebuhole has these measurements (in inches):

L1=19"

L2=15"

L3=4"

L4=4"

L5=Varied during trials in order to see if long or short sling rope length is best.

H1=9"

H2=5"

Dead Horse Analysis

My brother mentioned that since the trebuchet is a siege weapon, it would be beneficial to give disease to the enemy hiding within the castle/town walls. My son then asked if the horse would have AIDS. My brother replied that the horse could have AIDS, but that such a horse would only be beneficial to the attackers if the attackees were necrophiliacs who enjoy interspecies erotica.

Horse inserted backwards
Horse Fail
L5=11 inches
L5=19 inches
Castle (Target)

Preliminary Attempt

I decided to use a relatively large toy horse as my payload to attempt to figure out if doing so is feasible.

Unfortunately, the horse was inserted backwards, and the legs caught on the sling and the launch was unsuccessful.

Subsequent Attempts

I had my kids build a castle out of Legos as a target for the Trebuhole. I then set up a lego horse facing the correct way (legs toward bottom of swing arm). The sling length (L5) here is 11 inches.

I also set up Trebuhole with a longer sling rope length (L5=19 inches) using some blue string.

There was some argument as to whether an elastic string in the sling rope would affect the outcome. So the rope was also replaced by an elastic string. L5 when the elastic was at rest was 11", and L5 when the elastic was fully extended was 16".

Results

At L5=11", the Lego horse was launched 262".

At L5=19", the Lego horse was launched 52".

For the elastic string, the Lego horse was launched 154".

Conclusion

The shorter sling rope length seems to be better for Trebuhole. I believe that the sling falls off of the track or otherwise gets messed up during the launch, hindering the longer string launch distance. However, this may differ for other trebuchets.

Aftermath

After many unsuccessful attempts to have Trebuhole hit the castle with horses and rocks, my kids and I ended up throwing a bunch of rocks at the castle.