Difference between revisions of "Talk:Nanny consolation prize"

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No comments since 2009 - it's in limbo! I have removed the link from the Achievement list --Sourcerer (talk) 08:55, 22 July 2015 (EDT)

Oppose. I'll try to figure out my exact reasoning at a later date (see below), but it's likely related to the nature of the situation itself. --KerrMcF (talk) 00:14, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

Support Seems fine. Though can be a bit of a grey area between someone "needing looking after" vs just not wanting to do it. Stevage (talk) 02:22, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

What I don't like about this is that it is a proxy reason, when I think the real reason should be given. Did the companion refuse to go along because of natural obstacles? DWN. Did they run out of time? White Rabbit. Etc. Since that is the true reason the expedition did not succeed, I believe one of the existing consolation prizes should be claimed rather than creating this one. --Fippe (talk) 09:50, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

I think this is it for me too. This proposal seems to fall under "avoid proposing achievements where the ribbon has a large overlap with an existing ribbon". If you are eligible for this, you (or your drag-along) would almost always be eligible for a different consolation prize, even if that was just prize poultry. In a scenario (of which I cannot even think of an example) where you would not be eligible for an existing consolation prize, but you would be eligible for this, I don't think such an event would be worthy of any kind of ribbon. I have to assume this proposal was made after someone had a failed drag-along attempt, but the need for an "opposite to a successful" attempt no longer exists as other consolation prizes have been made to cover these situations. My vote remains as oppose, this time with a defined reasoning. --KerrMcF (talk) 00:59, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

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 No comments since 2009 - it's in limbo! I have removed the link from the [[Achievements|Achievement list]] --[[User:Sourcerer|Sourcerer]] ([[User talk:Sourcerer|talk]]) 08:55, 22 July 2015 (EDT)
-'''Oppose'''. I'll try to figure out my exact reasoning at a later date, but it's likely related to the nature of the situation itself. --[[User:KerrMcF|KerrMcF]] ([[User talk:KerrMcF|talk]]) 00:14, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
+'''Oppose'''. I'll try to figure out my exact reasoning at a later date (see below), but it's likely related to the nature of the situation itself. --[[User:KerrMcF|KerrMcF]] ([[User talk:KerrMcF|talk]]) 00:14, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
 '''Support''' Seems fine. Though can be a bit of a grey area between someone "needing looking after" vs just not wanting to do it. [[User:Stevage|Stevage]] ([[User talk:Stevage|talk]]) 02:22, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
 What I don't like about this is that it is a proxy reason, when I think the real reason should be given. Did the companion refuse to go along because of natural obstacles? DWN. Did they run out of time? White Rabbit. Etc. Since that is the true reason the expedition did not succeed, I believe one of the existing consolation prizes should be claimed rather than creating this one. --[[User:Fippe|Fippe]] ([[User talk:Fippe|talk]]) 09:50, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
+:I think this is it for me too. This proposal seems to fall under "avoid proposing achievements where the ribbon has a large overlap with an existing ribbon". If you are eligible for this, you (or your drag-along) would almost always be eligible for a different consolation prize, even if that was just prize poultry. In a scenario (of which I cannot even think of an example) where you would not be eligible for an existing consolation prize, but you would be eligible for this, I don't think such an event would be worthy of any kind of ribbon. I have to assume this proposal was made after someone had a failed drag-along attempt, but the need for an "opposite to a successful" attempt no longer exists as other consolation prizes have been made to cover these situations. My vote remains as oppose, this time with a defined reasoning. --[[User:KerrMcF|KerrMcF]] ([[User talk:KerrMcF|talk]]) 00:59, 28 July 2024 (UTC)