Difference between revisions of "Talk:Smoking Geohash"

Revision as of 18:11, 21 May 2009

This page was flagged for deletion. The banner said if I disagree, I should remove the tag and discuss here, so here I am.

Smokers are currently enjoying a period in our history of extreme unpopularity to the point of oppression. I like to think that one of the fine things that Geohashing promotes is a "can't we all just get along?" style. This achievement -- the doing of something that is politically unfavorable in a way that offends no one and brings enjoyment to the practitioner -- epitomizes that.

In addition, while many anti-smokers may fail to realize it smoking is a highly social activity. Meeting up with strangers at a random location to enjoy a smoke in a way that offends no one *IS* an achievement in today's hostile climate -- every bit as much so as approaching the owner of private land to ask permission to hash on it for the Ambassador achievement. It's difficult to do, it requires that one be considerate of one's fellow man, it requires a bit of gumption and "going against the norm." It is a legitimate achievement. 64.74.213.98 13:56, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Last poster: your vote would carry more weight if you logged in and had a name. I vote to grandfather this achievement for existing holders, but not leave it as a current achievement. -Robyn 14:00, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

I say delete it. Smoking is not an activity that deserves a ribbon. If it was, there could also be ribbons for drinking (be it alcohol, water, energy drinks) at the hashpoint, eating, standing around, taking pictures, picking your nose... It just isn't special. Of course you may enjoy your smoke at the hashpoint, but it is no more social than meeting and talking to strangers without smoking. If you really want to have a ribbon, you can always make your own custom ribbon.

And concerning "going against the norm": Some things aren't "according to the norm" for a reason, in that they are frowned upon for the sake of society as a whole or, like smoking, for the benefit of the individual (there are several 100 000 smoking-related deaths per year in the U.S.). If you want to go against the norm just for going against the norm, why not create a "shooting heroin at the hashpoint" or "beating up a child at the hashpoint" ribbon? (Disclaimer: I do not support drug abuse or violence. Please do not throw me into prison.) - Danatar 18:11, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

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 :Last poster: your vote would carry more weight if you logged in and had a name. I vote to grandfather this achievement for existing holders, but not leave it as a current achievement. -[[User:Robyn|Robyn]] 14:00, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
+:I say delete it. Smoking is not an activity that deserves a ribbon. If it was, there could also be ribbons for drinking (be it alcohol, water, energy drinks) at the hashpoint, eating, standing around, taking pictures, picking your nose... It just isn't special. Of course you may enjoy your smoke at the hashpoint, but it is no more social than meeting and talking to strangers without smoking. If you really want to have a ribbon, you can always [[Gratuitous_ribbon_achievement|make your own custom ribbon]].
+:And concerning "going against the norm": Some things aren't "according to the norm" for a reason, in that they are frowned upon for the sake of society as a whole or, like smoking, for the benefit of the individual (there are several 100 000 smoking-related deaths per year in the U.S.). If you want to go against the norm just for going against the norm, why not create a "shooting heroin at the hashpoint" or "beating up a child at the hashpoint" ribbon? <small><small>(Disclaimer: I do not support drug abuse or violence. Please do not throw me into prison.)</small></small> - [[User:Danatar|Danatar]] 18:11, 21 May 2009 (UTC)