Talk:2017-07-24 -35 149

A Note on Your Hash

Hi 1PE,

I live in the Jerusalem graticule (31,35). Half of my graticule is in Jordan which has two border crossings with Israel, the closest being about 135 kilometers away if you take the side roads. I've never ever been to Jordan. Not even for a hashpoint. Most of the rest of my graticule is in the West Bank which has large areas that I cannot enter because they are Palestinian Authority lands. Some areas are dangerous. Some are desert which I have to weigh whether or not it is worth the risk.

I cope by going to the neighboring Beersheba graticule (31,34) and by using my best judgment when I see an opportunity in the Jerusalem graticule.

Here is one that I would never go to: 2017-07-17 31 35. It's in a city just south of Bethlehem in Palestinian Authority territory.

Sometimes I just fail: 2017-07-10 31 35 was not reached because it was in a construction site. I probably could have asked around long enough for someone to let me in but I didn't have the patience and I needed to be home early. I took a "No Trespassing" consolation prize.

I think you had an unlucky hash on this day. Part of geohashing is that you actually get to the point and wander around it within GPS error. That means that if the point is in the house, for it to be a successful expedition you need to be in the house. If you can't get inside the house then you can take a "No Trespassing" consolation prize. If you find a way of making a new friend who is willing to let you on to their property then you can successfully claim a successful arrival, but other than that, I think you'll have to treat this one as a consolation prize.

If you do successfully get in to a restricted location then you can take the Ambassador Achievement. http://wiki.xkcd.com/geohashing/Ambassador_achievement

If you'd like to dispute my claim then ask someone else who is active on the site.

I wish you the best. - Yosef

Yosef, you are an angel! Thank you for fixing the mess-up I created. I take the approach to getting access from a purely Work Health and Safety (and legal) viewpoint; Australian owners/operators of anywhere have to be very careful that someone entering a place that they control can do so safely. If there is a gate that is locked then I get as close as I can and document the gate, etc. I have a site today (2017-08-25 -35 149) that is on a roadside in the suburbs; no problem. If it was inside the property then I would not go in if no-one was home. I have left a letter or map in a mailbox at a site. :-) Regards, 1PE (Canberra) (talk) 05:45, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

Greetings. Just found this discussion while idly surfing the wiki. I have to say that I agree with the point that I think Yosef is trying to make -- that is, that this particular hashpoint was not reached. Your expedition report seems to suggest that the hashpoint was not only inside a house, but was almost at the back of that house, and that you stood on the pavement at the front of the house and that was as near as you got. The way that the consensus on this game seems to have evolved since it started is that if you are within the circle of error on your GPS or other device, and can honestly say that there are no barriers between you and where you think the hashpoint is, then it has been reached. In the case of this particular hash, the report leaves it very uncertain that this is the case. — Benjw  _{talk} 14:22, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

Agree completely with this standard! --Thomcat (talk) 04:57, 9 December 2017 (UTC)