Category talk:Active graticules

Subcategory help

I'm a MediaWiki novice - I've read the help, but can't figure this one out. I'd like to see subcategories appear on this page, in a similar way to Category:North America or Category:Europe. I'm thinking the heirarchy goes

• Active or Inactive
• Continent
• Country/State/Province/etc.

I *think* the way to do this is by listing Active/Inactive first in the category list - which means reediting about 100 pages, but my tests have thus far proved inconclusive. Anyone know? --Thomcat 11 June

I might have an answer - going to try something... AshleyMorton 14:36, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Yup, there we go. Just add [[Category:Active Graticules]] to, for example, the [[Category:North America]] page, and there we go. Now, that's not really a sub-category, because it just includes the entire NA list as a link, basically. However, it may be what you're looking for. If you actually want a subcategory (North American Active Graticules), then I think you're going to have to actually create a new category for it. AshleyMorton 14:39, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm not a wiki expert, but I think you'll have a problem here. The reason the subcategories are on the NA page is that the state categories are a part of the NA category ie

• North America
  • Alabama
    • Pensacola (currently active)
    • Huntsville (currently inactive)

Putting North America under Active Graticules implies _everything_ in North America is active, which isn't right. To fix it involves either (a)setting up two seperate hierachies (for every continent and state/country) like

• Active
  • North America Active
    • Alabama Active
      • Pensacola
• Inactive
  • North America Inactive
    • Alabama Inactive
      • Huntsville (currently inactive)

or (b) put everything under the Active Graticules category and make sure that noone puts an inactive graticule into any categories until it becomes active. (a) is a lot of work to set up and to maintain (you have to change 3 tags when a graticule becomes active). (b) isn't really enforceable or desirable because you'd want to categorise the graticule into its continent,state/country when it was being set up, even if it was inactive Nzsteak 15:37, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Okay, thanks all, will probably leave the Active/Inactive as place name lists then. I think the more frequently used category will be Inactive, but I can't see people visiting either page to try and find a place.

Active/Inactive Definition

What defines an active graticule? At least one person claiming it as a home graticule? Anyone ever attempting a geohash in it? Virginity taken? At least three expeditions? At least one expedition in the last 30 days? I have half a mind to reclassify Edmonton, Alberta as Inactive, as they haven't done anything in months. Is Slave Lake, Alberta active because I visited it for a month? -- Robin

• As of this weekend, a lot of formerly active grats are being recategorized as inactive. Graticules are "deactivated" if no one attempts a geohash, or if no new people join (i.e., add their name to the grat page) for a period of about 6 months. Some specific issues are that activity simply tailed off in the Northern Hemisphere after August, while the Southern Hemisphere hasn't. I'd imagine it's difficult to justify recategorizing when geohashing is a warm-weather sport, but a lot of pages were created by a single user who attempted/reached one geohash, then lost interest when they saw they were the only one. Ask Ekorren and others for specifics/progress. -- Jevanyn

Fair enough. It's rough geohashing in the northern hemisphere in the winter, but we'll be back stronger in the spring. Have you considered a different category for never-active versus formerly active graticules? -Robyn 19:04, 19 January 2009 (UTC)