Talk:Nanny consolation prize

No comments since 2009 - it's in limbo! I have removed the link from the Achievement list --Sourcerer (talk) 08:55, 22 July 2015 (EDT)

Oppose. I'll try to figure out my exact reasoning at a later date (see below), but it's likely related to the nature of the situation itself. --KerrMcF (talk) 00:14, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

Support Seems fine. Though can be a bit of a grey area between someone "needing looking after" vs just not wanting to do it. Stevage (talk) 02:22, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

Oppose Changed my mind. I'd imagine in most cases if one person of a small group doesn't want to continue, the whole group is going to bail. Stevage (talk) 00:34, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

What I don't like about this is that it is a proxy reason, when I think the real reason should be given. Did the companion refuse to go along because of natural obstacles? DWN. Did they run out of time? White Rabbit. Etc. Since that is the true reason the expedition did not succeed, I believe one of the existing consolation prizes should be claimed rather than creating this one. --Fippe (talk) 09:50, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

I think this is it for me too. This proposal seems to fall under "avoid proposing achievements where the ribbon has a large overlap with an existing ribbon". If you are eligible for this, you (or your drag-along) would almost always be eligible for a different consolation prize, even if that was just prize poultry. In a scenario (of which I cannot even think of an example) where you would not be eligible for an existing consolation prize, but you would be eligible for this, I don't think such an event would be worthy of any kind of ribbon. I have to assume this proposal was made after someone had a failed drag-along attempt, but the need for an "opposite to a successful" attempt no longer exists as other consolation prizes have been made to cover these situations. My vote remains as oppose, this time with a defined reasoning. --KerrMcF (talk) 00:59, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

Dunno, I can imagine lots of situations where someone could claim this consolation prize but no others. I myself have had to abort an expedition simply because my companions ran out of patience (and I was powerless to do anything about it since they were driving the car). Maybe you could add a requirement that one may not be eligible for any other prizes in order to claim this one, or that one may only claim one at a time. Overall judgement: weak support. --π π π (talk) 11:24, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

Wouldn't your example (I assume 2022-08-05 47 13) meet the White Rabbit consolation prize criteria anyway? You categorised the expedition as Not Reached - Time Constraints, and said you also had a deadline to arrive at another location. Running out of patience is sort-of already covered by White Rabbit ("It could also just be all the time you were willing to spend on the expedition") and the deadline definitely falls under it. Not trying to discredit your point or make things difficult, I would genuinely love to see an example of this situation in which another consolation prize is not available, but I just cannot comprehend what that would be. --KerrMcF (talk) 23:42, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

I definitely see your point in this particular case, and I agree if you interpret the "you" in "all the time you were willing to spend on the expedition" to apply to any member of your expedition, it might be hard to find an example of that not being the case since that covers basically everything. But if on an expedition, your companion goes "I'd rather do something else" and leaves, despite there being no time constraints, and you're not willing to continue without them, I wouldn't personally claim White Rabbit for that. Or maybe they wanted to continue, but got a call and had to head home and didn't feel like trying (or couldn't try) again later in the day. That doesn't seem to fit White Rabbit either. --π π π (talk) 11:46, 29 September 2024 (UTC)