Talk:Expedition 10000

By the Numbers

I find this interesting:

According to the World map of Successful Expeditions, there are 966 Graticules that have recorded expeditions. So this averages out to just over 10 expeditions per (non-virgin) graticule.

Further, the World map indicates that there are over 12,000 Graticules that are named and (probably) aren't ocean/sea/water. If every single expedition was to a new Graticule, there would still be over 3,000 virgin Graticules over land not counting Antartica(where most Graticules aren't named).

Pedalpusher (talk) 16:58, 4 March 2015 (EST)

"Did not attempt"

I am not discounting any Category:Not reached - Did not attempt expeditions, about 50 right now. A lot of them are meetups at closest spot on the beach when the hash is out at sea, which I'm all for encouraging. The same with other "Not reached" categories. -- Jevanyn (talk) 09:35, 6 March 2015 (EST)

Comments

I was checking out some Categories and came across a few that will affect your numbers.

• There is one 'expedition' in the Examples category that isn't really an expedition
• For the Retro expeditions, some have the Expedition category, some don't: Retro Not reached and Retro Reached
• If retros will be counted, then the expedition category should be added to the origin expeditions too.

Let me know if you want help with these and what you want to do and I can assist. Pedalpusher (talk) 13:49, 24 March 2015 (EDT)

• I'll take the example expedition into account, so I know I'm looking for a count in the category of 10,001 to adjust for it. I want to bring attention to all the expeditions on the day we go over, more than the individual one, because of items like this that I can't account for.
• I hadn't thought about the retro hashes. I'd like to count origin expeditions and successful retro hashes for interesting historical dates, but it gets more complicated. There are cases where someone went to several retro hashes on one trip. Count that as one, or many? I think a lot of people would not want to count retro hashes unless they were for dates before May 2008 when geohashing actually got started.

Let me think it over, and see if anyone else has some comments. -- Jevanyn (talk) 14:54, 24 March 2015 (EDT)

If we are going to count Retros, then they should each be their own expedition; just like on a Multi-hash, each location has it's own page and is thus counted individually as an expedition even though it was one trip. Also, I think that would just be too hard to count otherwise. Pedalpusher (talk) 15:24, 26 March 2015 (EDT)

I agree, if we were to include retrohashes, then multiple retrohashes on the same excursion should be counted the same way multihashes are, which is one for each hashpoint/expedition page. But I wouldn't count all retro-hashes unless there was a quorum that thought we should. There was some resistance to that idea when it came to other questions IIRC -- Jevanyn (talk) 09:47, 30 March 2015 (EDT)

I think we should include retro's, as they do accomplish the goal of getting us out into the world to visit random places. There are some people who hate the entire concept of retro's, just like there are folks who feel it is completely wrong to drive to a hashpoint. But I think the idea is to make the adventures accessible to lots of folks. Jiml (talk) 09:17, 31 March 2015 (EDT)

Also a good argument. Another effective "vote" in favor is that NWoodruff is including retrohashes on the Most active graticules page, and so I should count them as well for consistency. I've updated the main page to include the Retro reached and not reached totals, which brings us to about 9,920 currently.

I strongly believe that retrohashes are not geohashing expeditions. You can always add some without even trying by checking your recent tracklogs against the full list of past hashpoints. That Mr. N. includes them into the numbers only speaks against the relevance of these lists - you can always visit a number of cheap retrohashes and fool yourself into being the "top geohasher" by that. If retrohashes are counted towards the 10000, I refuse to accept this number and the date when it's "completed". --Ekorren (talk) 13:11, 13 April 2015 (EDT)

You might have a look to http://wiki.xkcd.com/wgh/index.php?title=Special:ShortPages&limit=500, there are a lot of strange expedition reports. --GeorgDerReisende (talk) 13:18, 8 April 2015 (EDT)

Those blank ones don't show in the expedition category, but it is a good idea to process the deletes. Asked a question about one that looked valid to me - there may be others. --Thomcat (talk) 14:14, 8 April 2015 (EDT)

Fuzzy math

With a total of 9967, and 32 "new reports" in play, we're entering the Romulan Neutral Zone the gray area where #10,000 could happen at any time. -- Jevanyn (talk) 12:16, 13 April 2015 (EDT)