Talk:Most active Geohashers/old
Thank you for this page! --Q-Owl (talk) 14:45, 14 January 2015 (EST)
- Seconded. Would be nice if this could be automated, and for that matter, extended back to the start. --Thomcat (talk) 16:44, 14 January 2015 (EST)
- I'm currently working my way through past years (at July 2013 at the moment). When I have the whole year done it will be added to the totals. I'm also planning to give each year a sub-page so it will be easy to look back and see totals and monthly leaders without clogging the main page too badly. Fear not, it will get there in time. Mystrsyko (talk) 22:32, 14 January 2015 (EST)
Hello Mystrsyko,
at "Most Active Users By Coordinates Reached" (bottom of the page):
I think, I found only 4 hashes in November 2014.
Best greetings
--Q-Owl (talk) 16:39, 25 January 2015 (EST)
I'm wondering how you deal with an expedition where one geohasher reached the coordinates and another did not. I'm also wondering if the Category:Coordinates reached (or not) could be replaced with a template that included the date, graticule and user name. Then the stats would be much easier to work out. How hard would it be to retro-edit all the expeditions to follow this format? Or is there an easier way to solve this problem? In all cases thanks for your effort and the interesting results. --Sourcerer (talk) 05:26, 5 March 2015 (EST)
I just found this page. I'll automate it. I already do something similar by the automated interactive map of users. [1] --NWoodruff (talk) 10:47, 6 April 2015 (EDT)
- It is now Automated--NWoodruff (talk) 21:03, 15 April 2015 (EDT)
- Hello NWoodruff. Well done, but something must have gone wrong. Although I'm absolutely fine with my success-rate of nearly 120%, I still can remember some progress for the posted achievement. Or in other words, 50 successful expeditions is still a little less than the 51 (until end of January) in my personal census, but it is much better than the automated 42 expeditions that should have taken place at all (and yes, these expeditions are also missing on the interactive map). DODO (talk)
- I think only the top table (expeditions) is correct; the bottom still has Mystrsyko's manual count. Also, if you have 51 expeditions (aka 9 unreported) then get to your editing, young man! :) --Thomcat (talk) 23:44, 16 April 2015 (EDT)
- Yes, I'm with you. Only the top table is automated and the lower one is still Mystrsyko's manual count. But I have to disagree about the correctness. In 2014 there has been 54 reported expeditions that I was involved in as you can see here, and the 45 successful ones are almost exactly what Mystroko counts. So there are obviously some errors in my reports, so Woodruff doesn't find them, but I have no idea what it could be. And given the count of them, I'm afraid, I'm not the only one with missing expeditions. DODO (talk)
- I'm fairly certain that NWoodruff's automation isn't pulling the full amount of data. I'm curious what it uses to pull it's information. The main reason I've been doing this page manually was because I found a number of issues that would cause bots to have trouble trying to pull accurate data. That being said, I'll go over DODO's expeditions again, because I'm not sure why our counts differ. Mystrsyko (talk) 12:29, 17 April 2015 (EDT)
- I can tell it's not picking up everything, because out didn't get any of Robyn's, and I know she did at least 20 or so. Not to criticise too much, this is a work in progress --Jevanyn (talk) 11:18, 18 April 2015 (EDT)
- DODO's totals are different because he stores his 2014 results on a different page. Both the Users Map program AND this most active users program only see expeditions on the current user page. I have to manually add an exception to go look at different pages. Trying to automate that would then go searching through the entire internet if someone posted a link off of the XKCD website. A manual entry has been made for DODO's second page and his results will be updated to the full amount next time each program runs. --NWoodruff (talk) 20:33, 15 June 2015 (EDT)
- Yes, I'm with you. Only the top table is automated and the lower one is still Mystrsyko's manual count. But I have to disagree about the correctness. In 2014 there has been 54 reported expeditions that I was involved in as you can see here, and the 45 successful ones are almost exactly what Mystroko counts. So there are obviously some errors in my reports, so Woodruff doesn't find them, but I have no idea what it could be. And given the count of them, I'm afraid, I'm not the only one with missing expeditions. DODO (talk)
- I think only the top table (expeditions) is correct; the bottom still has Mystrsyko's manual count. Also, if you have 51 expeditions (aka 9 unreported) then get to your editing, young man! :) --Thomcat (talk) 23:44, 16 April 2015 (EDT)
- Hello NWoodruff. Well done, but something must have gone wrong. Although I'm absolutely fine with my success-rate of nearly 120%, I still can remember some progress for the posted achievement. Or in other words, 50 successful expeditions is still a little less than the 51 (until end of January) in my personal census, but it is much better than the automated 42 expeditions that should have taken place at all (and yes, these expeditions are also missing on the interactive map). DODO (talk)
Yeah, something is definitely wrong with the automation... just looking at the top table, it only counts 54 geohashers who ever did an expedition!! If you go over to Meetup graph you can see far, far more than 54 users who did expeditions with other users (and that doesn't even count the ones who have never met other users.) Robyn is just the tip of a very large iceberg... -- OtherJack (talk) 19:28, 3 May 2015 (EDT)
- Looking further, I guess it must be that NWoodruff's program only searches over the specific 58 geohashers who Mystrsyko had put into the manual tables. I guess all the other users don't have any post July 2013 expeditions (?) -- OtherJack (talk) 19:34, 3 May 2015 (EDT)
- And finally, if Mystrsyko is just using pages like 2014-10 to do his manual counts, he is missing lots of (maybe even most?) of the posted expeditions for each month, because those monthly pages *only* archive the photo-galleries that appear on the main page. A lot of people don't bother adding a photo to the main page galleries. For example, you can see only one expedition for Wednesday 1 October 2014 on 2014-10, but if you go to the date page 2014-10-01 or Category:Meetup on 2014-10-01 you will discover 2 expeditions that day. But one of them didn't bother adding to the gallery. It is a bit of extra work to do so. :> -- OtherJack (talk) 19:45, 3 May 2015 (EDT)
- I actually do use the daily archive pages for exactly that reason. There are still a few I've missed though, that for some reason didn't show on those either Mystrsyko (talk) 20:22, 3 May 2015 (EDT)
- Ah ok, sorry about that! -- OtherJack (talk) 20:24, 3 May 2015 (EDT)
- But wait... then why isn't Haberdasher in the tables? Both 2014-10-25 and Category:Meetup on 2014-10-25 link to an expedition that she clearly did (with user link and coordinates-reached.) She was just the first example I thought of for someone who wasn't in the tables, but I know has been hashing in the last couple years... -- OtherJack (talk) 20:31, 3 May 2015 (EDT)
- These tables (currently) are all from NWoodruff's code. I have said expedition in my manual counts. See Most active users/2014
- I actually do use the daily archive pages for exactly that reason. There are still a few I've missed though, that for some reason didn't show on those either Mystrsyko (talk) 20:22, 3 May 2015 (EDT)
- And finally, if Mystrsyko is just using pages like 2014-10 to do his manual counts, he is missing lots of (maybe even most?) of the posted expeditions for each month, because those monthly pages *only* archive the photo-galleries that appear on the main page. A lot of people don't bother adding a photo to the main page galleries. For example, you can see only one expedition for Wednesday 1 October 2014 on 2014-10, but if you go to the date page 2014-10-01 or Category:Meetup on 2014-10-01 you will discover 2 expeditions that day. But one of them didn't bother adding to the gallery. It is a bit of extra work to do so. :> -- OtherJack (talk) 19:45, 3 May 2015 (EDT)
Okay, here is how the program works, It only pulls from the page Sepcial:ActiveUsers. If it pulled all users every time, it would take a whole day for the program to scrape XKCD user pages when the majority of them haven't changed in 5 years. The program is slowly building up a database of users who are currently active. I will eventually go back and do everyone. The interactive use maps are done the same way. No need to update a users map if they haven't geohashed since the last map update.
So, I'm not skipping over anyone, I'm only getting current active users. --NWoodruff (talk) 22:46, 14 June 2015 (EDT)
It seems that users have to be active and have to use an own account, to be listed here. Example: Q-Owla is active, but hasn't an account. She is not listed here. --Q-Owl (talk) 16:04, 18 October 2015 (EDT)
- She is not active because you are the one making the edits for her using your account, not hers. It took me awhile to figure out why she is not listed in the special:ActiveUsers list when there is activity on her page. I could put a link to scan her page when the program scans your, but her totals would add to your totals and not hers --NWoodruff (talk) 19:34, 19 October 2015 (EDT)
