Talk:Lloydminster West, Alberta
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Graticule name
Shouldn't this be named Lloydminster, Province? --joannac 00:43, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
- It's one city in two provinces. "Lloydminster, Alberta and Saskatchewan" seems a bit unwieldy (but accurate). How about "Lloydminster, Canada"? --starbird 01:45, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah, I had some trouble trying to decide what I should name this one. It feels so lonely being simply Lloydminster, and being Albertan, I'm tempted to stick it in Alberta, but I have the feeling that would cause an uproar. If anyone decides that it should be otherwise, I would be happy to change it. Meghan 04:10, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
- Why don't you call the west grat Lloydminster, Alberta, and the right one Lloydminster, Saskatchewan (and that is such a tricky word to spell!). --joannac 04:18, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
- I've thought about this kind of thing in general. There is a precedent with a similar graticule Quad Cities, USA. When I saw that one, I sorely wanted to take the state that had the most area in the graticule and just make it "in" that state, but it wasn't my graticule and I resisted the temptation. In my opinion, "pick one" is the best strategy (go by the province with the most area or population in the graticule); and "Lloydminster, Canada" is better than "Lloydminster, Alberta and Saskatchewan". I can't see an uproar breaking out over Lloydminster, personally. It's not like you're naming graticules on the West Bank. And then include a redirect from the province you didn't pick, so that people can link to it by their choice. -Robyn 04:26, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
- And I wrote that during an edit conflict, and before actually looking at the graticule. Joanna's suggestion is perfect. I left what I wrote above only as documentation of my thoughts on the general case. -Robyn 04:26, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
- "Quad Cities, Illinois" seems a little odd to me. "Davenport, Iowa", on the other hand, would make a perfectly fine name for that graticule. --starbird 15:48, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
- Each of the Graticules are individually named in the All Graticules list, as Lloydminster W, Alberta and Lloydminster E, Saskatchewan. I followed after the Calgary graticules when I named and redirected graticules. The debate here is simply what to call the page where the pages are redirected to.
- I don't pretend to know all the ins and outs on wikis. I'm still new here. I'll leave the decision in your guys' more than capable hands. --Meghan 15:27, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
- Okay, I was thinking that every point in the city fell in both provinces. On reading the Wikipedia article more closely, I now think I was wrong. So the base graticule names (Lloydminster W, Alberta and Lloydminster E, Saskatchewan) make perfect sense. The Alberta side of the city has 2/3 of the population, so I propose moving the Lloydminster page to "Lloydminster, Alberta" and creating a redirect from "Lloydminster, Saskatchewan". --starbird 16:03, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
- Personally I'd leave off the W and the E. And it doesn't have to have a single "split cities" page. I would have avoided it by naming it after Vermillion. :-) -Robyn 16:10, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah, I could have named it Vermillion, but I think Lloydminster is a much more appropriate name. Bigger city, more recognizeable. Heck, I've driven through Vermillion a dozen times and I still don't always remember exactly where it is. EVERYONE know where Lloydminster is.
- Anyways, I've moved the page, and I think I fixed the double redirects. I'd feel better if someone double checked everything to make sure it's ok. Thanks everyone! --Meghan 17:17, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
- Looks fine to me. When future Lloydminster geohashers don't like something, they can change it themselves. They'll probably be grateful to you for going to all the work to make a split graticule page. Usually people making pages for inactive graticules just make one generic page per graticule. -Robyn 19:27, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
- I enjoyed the challenge. I figure the fastest way to learn how to do anything is to dive right in. --Meghan 19:36, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
- Okay, I was thinking that every point in the city fell in both provinces. On reading the Wikipedia article more closely, I now think I was wrong. So the base graticule names (Lloydminster W, Alberta and Lloydminster E, Saskatchewan) make perfect sense. The Alberta side of the city has 2/3 of the population, so I propose moving the Lloydminster page to "Lloydminster, Alberta" and creating a redirect from "Lloydminster, Saskatchewan". --starbird 16:03, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah, I had some trouble trying to decide what I should name this one. It feels so lonely being simply Lloydminster, and being Albertan, I'm tempted to stick it in Alberta, but I have the feeling that would cause an uproar. If anyone decides that it should be otherwise, I would be happy to change it. Meghan 04:10, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
