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Well done for making it to eight consecutive hashes.  However, ignoring a no trespassing sign and jumping a fence onto private property just because you want to make it one more in a row is rather against the spirit of hashing, isn't it?  -- [[User:Benjw|Benjw]] 22:02, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
 
Well done for making it to eight consecutive hashes.  However, ignoring a no trespassing sign and jumping a fence onto private property just because you want to make it one more in a row is rather against the spirit of hashing, isn't it?  -- [[User:Benjw|Benjw]] 22:02, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
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:This would have been a good opportunity for an ambassador geohash I would think.  With the name of the farm right on the sign, maybe the owner wouldn't've been that hard to track down.  --[[User:Excellentdude|excellentdude]] 22:39, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
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::If you check the map, houses are very sparse. The one house that I drove by has a steel gate across the driveway and it was closed. There probably wasn't a soul around for a mile or more. I could have walked to the hash point naked. Nobody drove by the 15 minutes that I was there. If you check the area that the hash point is in there is a square clearing around the entire area. That cleared out area is a fire break. The area is frequently burned down. As of yesterday it had be recently burned down. The only reason there is a clearing of trees through the center of the area is because of the planned high voltage power lines over head and is probably maintained by the power company. The hash point was only about 10 feet into the burned woods from the cleared  area. <br/>If there had been anyone around to ask, I would have. There was nobody.--[[User:NWoodruff|NWoodruff]] 15:12, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
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:::Granted, but I'm not sure what difference any of that makes.  It probably doesn't help that they way you've phrased it in the picture captions basically says "I know it's against the law, but I'm going to do it anyway just so that I can keep my string of consecutive hashes going".  Are you really that desperate?  Why?  -- [[User:Benjw|Benjw]] 16:17, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
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::::I've looked for 12 step classes for Geohashing, but so far, I haven't found any. The no trespassing signs are probably because they don't want hunters on the property. The only thing that I was hunting was a Geohash location. Maybe I should reword the caption under the picture?? Don't know. I was trying to add mystique to an otherwise dull and boring pastime. I stood around and feed the horses for another 5 minutes after I took the hash point, nobody drove by. But any way... Just in case,
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:::::Hi, My name is Nathan and I am a Geohash addict. I've come to believe that a Geohasher in the sky, greater than me, can restore me to sanity.
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I've got to agree with the others here, very strongly. You just '''don't''' interfere with other people's livestock. You haven't followed the rules. It's a fail, just as much as if you went to the wrong coordinates or on the wrong day. -[[User:Robyn|Robyn]] 21:14, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
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:There were NO live stock on this location. There was across the street. NONE on this location. --[[User:NWoodruff|NWoodruff]] 16:22, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
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::The pictures makes it look as if you're inside the paddock patting the horse, and as if you're bragging about crossing the fence despite the sign. You can see there's some problem here that has people upset. If it's just a communication problem, great. All you need to do it take some care to make it clear that you are not breaking the law, and people won't be worried. -[[User:Robyn|Robyn]] 16:28, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
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::P.S. I just saw the edit you made, probably before I posted the above. Perfect. Thanks so much.
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:::From the picture with the motorcycle in it, you can see the road, motorcycle, fence and horses. From the picture of me feeding the horse from grass that I pulled up from the side of the road, there is ME, a fence and then a horse. I'm on one side of the fence the horse is on the other side of the fence. From the pictures, there is NO POSSIBLE way that both the horse and I could be on the same side of the fence. --[[User:NWoodruff|NWoodruff]] 17:54, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
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== Just to lay this to rest years later ==
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Google maps did not have a street view of this geohash back in 2009. It does now. Here is the street view with horses. It is the same view of where I parked my motorcycle...[https://maps.google.com/maps?q=loc:33.3646909,+-84.9192714+(Geohashing+for+12+Apr+2009+in+33,-84)&hl=en&ll=33.365494,-84.918206&spn=0.000376,0.001187&t=h&z=20&layer=c&cbll=33.365493,-84.918206&panoid=ucrV31sEuVIx1FBqZDvtrw&cbp=12,65.69,,0,6.78]. The other side of the street where the geohash point for this day...[https://maps.google.com/maps?q=loc:33.3646909,+-84.9192714+(Geohashing+for+12+Apr+2009+in+33,-84)&hl=en&ll=33.365494,-84.918206&spn=0.000376,0.001187&t=h&z=20&layer=c&cbll=33.365493,-84.918206&panoid=ucrV31sEuVIx1FBqZDvtrw&cbp=12,250.43,,0,6.78] does not have horses.
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Here is the picture of the sign that I took that is probably still here on the wiki somewhere. [https://maps.google.com/maps?q=loc:33.3646909,+-84.9192714+(Geohashing+for+12+Apr+2009+in+33,-84)&hl=en&ll=33.365371,-84.918171&spn=0.000376,0.001187&t=h&z=20&layer=c&cbll=33.365372,-84.918172&panoid=hPx-lD6PRY2aOF5IP2LDSg&cbp=12,259.66,,3,13.55] notice that this sign is across the street from the horses.
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In 2009 this iron fence [https://maps.google.com/maps?q=loc:33.3646909,+-84.9192714+(Geohashing+for+12+Apr+2009+in+33,-84)&hl=en&ll=33.365371,-84.918171&spn=0.000376,0.001187&t=h&z=20&layer=c&cbll=33.365372,-84.918172&panoid=hPx-lD6PRY2aOF5IP2LDSg&cbp=12,249.4,,2,14.71] was not there. It was only a chain across and the fence post nearest the sign to the right is where I put my etrex down on and took the picture of me with the stupid grin. That fence post is clearly visible in the picture of me.
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I was never trespassing on property that livestock were kept.--[[User:NWoodruff|NWoodruff]] ([[User talk:NWoodruff|talk]]) 11:49, 12 September 2013 (EDT)

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Well done for making it to eight consecutive hashes. However, ignoring a no trespassing sign and jumping a fence onto private property just because you want to make it one more in a row is rather against the spirit of hashing, isn't it? -- Benjw 22:02, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

This would have been a good opportunity for an ambassador geohash I would think. With the name of the farm right on the sign, maybe the owner wouldn't've been that hard to track down. --excellentdude 22:39, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
If you check the map, houses are very sparse. The one house that I drove by has a steel gate across the driveway and it was closed. There probably wasn't a soul around for a mile or more. I could have walked to the hash point naked. Nobody drove by the 15 minutes that I was there. If you check the area that the hash point is in there is a square clearing around the entire area. That cleared out area is a fire break. The area is frequently burned down. As of yesterday it had be recently burned down. The only reason there is a clearing of trees through the center of the area is because of the planned high voltage power lines over head and is probably maintained by the power company. The hash point was only about 10 feet into the burned woods from the cleared area.
If there had been anyone around to ask, I would have. There was nobody.--NWoodruff 15:12, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
Granted, but I'm not sure what difference any of that makes. It probably doesn't help that they way you've phrased it in the picture captions basically says "I know it's against the law, but I'm going to do it anyway just so that I can keep my string of consecutive hashes going". Are you really that desperate? Why? -- Benjw 16:17, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
I've looked for 12 step classes for Geohashing, but so far, I haven't found any. The no trespassing signs are probably because they don't want hunters on the property. The only thing that I was hunting was a Geohash location. Maybe I should reword the caption under the picture?? Don't know. I was trying to add mystique to an otherwise dull and boring pastime. I stood around and feed the horses for another 5 minutes after I took the hash point, nobody drove by. But any way... Just in case,
Hi, My name is Nathan and I am a Geohash addict. I've come to believe that a Geohasher in the sky, greater than me, can restore me to sanity.

I've got to agree with the others here, very strongly. You just don't interfere with other people's livestock. You haven't followed the rules. It's a fail, just as much as if you went to the wrong coordinates or on the wrong day. -Robyn 21:14, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

There were NO live stock on this location. There was across the street. NONE on this location. --NWoodruff 16:22, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
The pictures makes it look as if you're inside the paddock patting the horse, and as if you're bragging about crossing the fence despite the sign. You can see there's some problem here that has people upset. If it's just a communication problem, great. All you need to do it take some care to make it clear that you are not breaking the law, and people won't be worried. -Robyn 16:28, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
P.S. I just saw the edit you made, probably before I posted the above. Perfect. Thanks so much.
From the picture with the motorcycle in it, you can see the road, motorcycle, fence and horses. From the picture of me feeding the horse from grass that I pulled up from the side of the road, there is ME, a fence and then a horse. I'm on one side of the fence the horse is on the other side of the fence. From the pictures, there is NO POSSIBLE way that both the horse and I could be on the same side of the fence. --NWoodruff 17:54, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Just to lay this to rest years later

Google maps did not have a street view of this geohash back in 2009. It does now. Here is the street view with horses. It is the same view of where I parked my motorcycle...[1]. The other side of the street where the geohash point for this day...[2] does not have horses.

Here is the picture of the sign that I took that is probably still here on the wiki somewhere. [3] notice that this sign is across the street from the horses.

In 2009 this iron fence [4] was not there. It was only a chain across and the fence post nearest the sign to the right is where I put my etrex down on and took the picture of me with the stupid grin. That fence post is clearly visible in the picture of me.

I was never trespassing on property that livestock were kept.--NWoodruff (talk) 11:49, 12 September 2013 (EDT)