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If this is really only about number of expeditions in a graticule, I hereby ask that my expeditions are not counted, excluding Stuttgart and possibly Pforzheim from the competition, starting with round one. I'm not willing to be part of a competition about pure number of expeditions. Geohashing is not about numbers, it is about experience. Also we all know who will "win" this, and that it won't be a fun and friendly competition. For most of us this is reason enough not to care.  
 
If this is really only about number of expeditions in a graticule, I hereby ask that my expeditions are not counted, excluding Stuttgart and possibly Pforzheim from the competition, starting with round one. I'm not willing to be part of a competition about pure number of expeditions. Geohashing is not about numbers, it is about experience. Also we all know who will "win" this, and that it won't be a fun and friendly competition. For most of us this is reason enough not to care.  
 
Danatars suggestion would be much better, if we want a competition about numbers at all. --[[User:Ekorren|Ekorren]] 22:11, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
 
Danatars suggestion would be much better, if we want a competition about numbers at all. --[[User:Ekorren|Ekorren]] 22:11, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
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:Sorry I just found this. It is not like we here in the Atlanta graticule do a Geohash every day. Here in Atlanta, we don't have mountains or any oceans. We have plenty of flat space with more than 5 million living in this graticule. With so many people we tend to have lots of roads. With lots of roads, I dare say that that there isn't any spot in this graticule that is farther than 2 miles from a road. If it is, it is probably on a military base which would mean that it isn't accessible anyway. Atlanta is really the most perfect graticule on the planet for Geohashing. We have so many expeditions not because we love Geohashing that much, but because it is so darn easy to get to.
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:If the paring was done on a day to day basis and geohashes from other days didn't count, anyone could win. Case in Point, the first 9 days of December, every hash point in the Atlanta Graticule was inaccessible. If the tournament ran for the first 9 days of December, Atlanta would have lost, no questions asked.
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:Beside, I love to Geohash. --[[User:NWoodruff|NWoodruff]] 18:23, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
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::To add another note, we have the two widest interstate roads in the world. I-75 with 15 lanes and I-85 with 14 lanes [http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/policy/ohpi/hiqjan04.htm#topicC]. GA-400 has 12 lanes running north out of Atlanta. I-20 out of Atlanta proper has 10 lanes both east and west of Atlanta.
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::And at 5pm every day, the interstate system in all directions except south of Atlanta comes to a stop. We love our cars here in Atlanta.--[[User:NWoodruff|NWoodruff]] 18:37, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
  
 
I like a little bit of competition, even if it's just the numbers. Nonetheless, I agree that Danatar's suggestion would provide for the more interesting numbers. But if you'd like to stick even closer to the spirit, you could have a jury (everyone?) rate expeditions by key geohashing criteria, like randomness, outdoors-ness, geekiness, unexpectedness and overall amazingness. That might make for some amazing competition. :D -- [[User:relet|relet]] 23:52, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
 
I like a little bit of competition, even if it's just the numbers. Nonetheless, I agree that Danatar's suggestion would provide for the more interesting numbers. But if you'd like to stick even closer to the spirit, you could have a jury (everyone?) rate expeditions by key geohashing criteria, like randomness, outdoors-ness, geekiness, unexpectedness and overall amazingness. That might make for some amazing competition. :D -- [[User:relet|relet]] 23:52, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
 
:Yay! I like this one. - [[User:Danatar|Danatar]] 04:31, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
 
:Yay! I like this one. - [[User:Danatar|Danatar]] 04:31, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
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:Is this tournament thing still going on or not? I'd support it only if there are criteria different to total number of expeditions, e.g. interestingness of location (0-2 points, my recent field geohashes would get 0), how to get there (also 0-2 points, kayak/climbing > bike/public transport/walking > car), number of geohashers present, and also relet's suggestions. - [[User:Danatar|Danatar]] 16:01, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
  
 
I like relet's idea of various non-numeric criteria, but if there's going to be a tournament based on numbers, I like that it will be in the winter, so the silliness/meaninglessness will be increased by the extremely different winter weather/winter hours of daylight between certain very active graticules and other very active graticules.  You know what would also be interesting if there is going to be a competition based on numbers?  Doing it in randomly-assigned teams of graticules that are very far apart, so one would think "We have to get out there in the snow and geohash, or we'll let down Budapest and Minneapolis" [[User:Sara|Sara]] 04:17, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
 
I like relet's idea of various non-numeric criteria, but if there's going to be a tournament based on numbers, I like that it will be in the winter, so the silliness/meaninglessness will be increased by the extremely different winter weather/winter hours of daylight between certain very active graticules and other very active graticules.  You know what would also be interesting if there is going to be a competition based on numbers?  Doing it in randomly-assigned teams of graticules that are very far apart, so one would think "We have to get out there in the snow and geohash, or we'll let down Budapest and Minneapolis" [[User:Sara|Sara]] 04:17, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
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Thanks for all the feedback! No, this is not really "ongoing", I wouldn't throw the whole geohashing community into the fire like that :-)  It's just an idea I had that might stir up interest again in some places where activity has died down.  Something I don't want is to take away from the free-spiritedness of it.
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There are two good suggestions here, though: to make teams of graticules (random, with some balancing?), and to have different number of points for different achievements (one per person, extra for newbies, etc.)
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More later --- Jevanyn
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:How about theme weeks? :D -- [[User:relet|relet]] 10:54, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 18:37, 18 December 2009

Wouldn't it be more interesting to use "total number of geohashers at hashpoints" as the first item? I.e. one expedition with 3 people would count more than 2 expeditions with only one person each. That way it would encourage meetups, drag-alongs and other group-related stuff. - Danatar 18:55, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

If this is really only about number of expeditions in a graticule, I hereby ask that my expeditions are not counted, excluding Stuttgart and possibly Pforzheim from the competition, starting with round one. I'm not willing to be part of a competition about pure number of expeditions. Geohashing is not about numbers, it is about experience. Also we all know who will "win" this, and that it won't be a fun and friendly competition. For most of us this is reason enough not to care. Danatars suggestion would be much better, if we want a competition about numbers at all. --Ekorren 22:11, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Sorry I just found this. It is not like we here in the Atlanta graticule do a Geohash every day. Here in Atlanta, we don't have mountains or any oceans. We have plenty of flat space with more than 5 million living in this graticule. With so many people we tend to have lots of roads. With lots of roads, I dare say that that there isn't any spot in this graticule that is farther than 2 miles from a road. If it is, it is probably on a military base which would mean that it isn't accessible anyway. Atlanta is really the most perfect graticule on the planet for Geohashing. We have so many expeditions not because we love Geohashing that much, but because it is so darn easy to get to.
If the paring was done on a day to day basis and geohashes from other days didn't count, anyone could win. Case in Point, the first 9 days of December, every hash point in the Atlanta Graticule was inaccessible. If the tournament ran for the first 9 days of December, Atlanta would have lost, no questions asked.
Beside, I love to Geohash. --NWoodruff 18:23, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
To add another note, we have the two widest interstate roads in the world. I-75 with 15 lanes and I-85 with 14 lanes [1]. GA-400 has 12 lanes running north out of Atlanta. I-20 out of Atlanta proper has 10 lanes both east and west of Atlanta.
And at 5pm every day, the interstate system in all directions except south of Atlanta comes to a stop. We love our cars here in Atlanta.--NWoodruff 18:37, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

I like a little bit of competition, even if it's just the numbers. Nonetheless, I agree that Danatar's suggestion would provide for the more interesting numbers. But if you'd like to stick even closer to the spirit, you could have a jury (everyone?) rate expeditions by key geohashing criteria, like randomness, outdoors-ness, geekiness, unexpectedness and overall amazingness. That might make for some amazing competition. :D -- relet 23:52, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Yay! I like this one. - Danatar 04:31, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
Is this tournament thing still going on or not? I'd support it only if there are criteria different to total number of expeditions, e.g. interestingness of location (0-2 points, my recent field geohashes would get 0), how to get there (also 0-2 points, kayak/climbing > bike/public transport/walking > car), number of geohashers present, and also relet's suggestions. - Danatar 16:01, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

I like relet's idea of various non-numeric criteria, but if there's going to be a tournament based on numbers, I like that it will be in the winter, so the silliness/meaninglessness will be increased by the extremely different winter weather/winter hours of daylight between certain very active graticules and other very active graticules. You know what would also be interesting if there is going to be a competition based on numbers? Doing it in randomly-assigned teams of graticules that are very far apart, so one would think "We have to get out there in the snow and geohash, or we'll let down Budapest and Minneapolis" Sara 04:17, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for all the feedback! No, this is not really "ongoing", I wouldn't throw the whole geohashing community into the fire like that :-) It's just an idea I had that might stir up interest again in some places where activity has died down. Something I don't want is to take away from the free-spiritedness of it.

There are two good suggestions here, though: to make teams of graticules (random, with some balancing?), and to have different number of points for different achievements (one per person, extra for newbies, etc.)

More later --- Jevanyn

How about theme weeks? :D -- relet 10:54, 25 November 2009 (UTC)