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I'd like an independent ruling on whether or not this is a successful geohash? [[User:Jevanyn|Jevanyn]]
 
I'd like an independent ruling on whether or not this is a successful geohash? [[User:Jevanyn|Jevanyn]]
 
:Can you give us more details as to why there is a debate? [[User:Jiml|Jiml]] 03:08, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
 
:Can you give us more details as to why there is a debate? [[User:Jiml|Jiml]] 03:08, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
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:Well, we may love to discuss that kind of thing, but in the end, we can judge that even worse than the people who have actually been on location. So it's really a matter of conscience. If you have been reasonably close to be not sure whether you reached it, then you're free to choose. If you have reasonable doubt, there are reasonable consolation prizes. ;) -- [[User:relet|relet]] 19:36, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
 
:Well, we may love to discuss that kind of thing, but in the end, we can judge that even worse than the people who have actually been on location. So it's really a matter of conscience. If you have been reasonably close to be not sure whether you reached it, then you're free to choose. If you have reasonable doubt, there are reasonable consolation prizes. ;) -- [[User:relet|relet]] 19:36, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
 
::I guess the 'margin of error' depends on what equipment you are using.  If you use a typical GPS receiver, then the coordinates will be quoted to about 1 metre precision, and the GPS signals will give you your position to about 3 metre accuracy in a clear area, maybe a little more in a built-up area depending on the buildings.  If you're not using a GPS receiver, though, then I guess you need to get to the point shown on the map.  If this is clearly inside a vacant lot that is now a building, then you need to be inside that building.  So it depends on how clear you can be with your print-out.  If you think "I'm there", then you probably are.  If you think "oh well, there's a building, I'll call this close enough" then perhaps you aren't.  But as relet says above, it's probably your wife who can arbitrate best. — <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml">[[User:Benjw|Benjw]]</span>&nbsp; <sub><nowiki>[</nowiki>[[User talk:Benjw|talk]]<nowiki>]</nowiki></sub> 19:58, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
 
::I guess the 'margin of error' depends on what equipment you are using.  If you use a typical GPS receiver, then the coordinates will be quoted to about 1 metre precision, and the GPS signals will give you your position to about 3 metre accuracy in a clear area, maybe a little more in a built-up area depending on the buildings.  If you're not using a GPS receiver, though, then I guess you need to get to the point shown on the map.  If this is clearly inside a vacant lot that is now a building, then you need to be inside that building.  So it depends on how clear you can be with your print-out.  If you think "I'm there", then you probably are.  If you think "oh well, there's a building, I'll call this close enough" then perhaps you aren't.  But as relet says above, it's probably your wife who can arbitrate best. — <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml">[[User:Benjw|Benjw]]</span>&nbsp; <sub><nowiki>[</nowiki>[[User talk:Benjw|talk]]<nowiki>]</nowiki></sub> 19:58, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
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Silly thought: I'm wondering how close to the [[wikipedia:North Pole|North Pole]] [[wikipedia:Frederick Albert Cook|Cook]] and [[wikipedia:Robert Peary|Peary]] actually got :-)  It's not like he has a GPS ''or'' Google maps to rely on / blame.  Can you imagine trying to reach a geohash using only a sextant? -- [[User:Jevanyn|Jevanyn]]
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I'd say the discussion is pretty settled, so removing the ''Needs discussion'' tag. [[User:JesseW|JesseW]] 04:36, 8 May 2012 (EDT)

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I'd like an independent ruling on whether or not this is a successful geohash? Jevanyn

Can you give us more details as to why there is a debate? Jiml 03:08, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
I scoped out the location on Google Maps as an empty lot. My wife went, and found a new apartment complex or something on the site. She didn't go inside, he got as close as the sidewalk. We don't usually use a GPS. I think she got within the typical margin of error, but I don't know what that really is, hence the discussion. -- Jevanyn
Well, we may love to discuss that kind of thing, but in the end, we can judge that even worse than the people who have actually been on location. So it's really a matter of conscience. If you have been reasonably close to be not sure whether you reached it, then you're free to choose. If you have reasonable doubt, there are reasonable consolation prizes. ;) -- relet 19:36, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
I guess the 'margin of error' depends on what equipment you are using. If you use a typical GPS receiver, then the coordinates will be quoted to about 1 metre precision, and the GPS signals will give you your position to about 3 metre accuracy in a clear area, maybe a little more in a built-up area depending on the buildings. If you're not using a GPS receiver, though, then I guess you need to get to the point shown on the map. If this is clearly inside a vacant lot that is now a building, then you need to be inside that building. So it depends on how clear you can be with your print-out. If you think "I'm there", then you probably are. If you think "oh well, there's a building, I'll call this close enough" then perhaps you aren't. But as relet says above, it's probably your wife who can arbitrate best. — Benjw  [talk] 19:58, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Silly thought: I'm wondering how close to the North Pole Cook and Peary actually got :-) It's not like he has a GPS or Google maps to rely on / blame. Can you imagine trying to reach a geohash using only a sextant? -- Jevanyn

I'd say the discussion is pretty settled, so removing the Needs discussion tag. JesseW 04:36, 8 May 2012 (EDT)