Talk:Media Attention Geohash

Can we cut trespassing from that list? :) (No, seriously.) I know it's a sensible topic. In my opinion, there's no harm done from trespassing itself, if proper consideration is applied. No trespassing signs are often a legal substitute for "Enter at your own risk", when they are even put up on public land for safety reasons. Usually it's clear from the type of sign if it's meant to absolve the owner from getting sued, or whether you would really cause harm by proceeding. Legally, it's at most a misdemeanor, and may not even be that if the area is not fenced. I fully understand that people might get offended, and that it would shed bad light on geohashing if you -for example- trample their flowerbeds, but then that's when I would speak of vandalism. Strictly speaking, we wouldn't be eligible for the achievement, as we've been on former military land featuring several no trespassing signs (warning of possible dangers from ammunition parts, etc. - clearly the first kind of sign). -- Relet 22:55, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

I refer you to the main page disclaimer:

Disclaimer: When any coordinates generated by the Geohashing algorithm fall within a dangerous area, are inaccessible, or would require illegal trespass, DO NOT attempt to reach them. Please research each potential location before attempting to access it. You are expected to use proper judgment in all cases and are solely responsible for your own actions. See more guidelines.

Illegal trespassing is against the spirit and Randall's stated rules of geohashing. If someone says they don't want you on their property it's not up to you to decide that they really don't mind after all. -Robyn 05:44, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

I see your point. I am worried myself that the TV might make a hook out of that, and do not intend to claim the achievement if it will be so. Still, I think that the actual statement from Randall reflects the spirit much better than the current disclaimer does: "When the coordinate falls somewhere dangerous or illegal to reach, use your judgment."[1] This was eventually transformed into exactly the kind of legal disclaimer I mentioned above. -- Relet 13:02, 30 September 2008 (UTC)