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If there were interesting and somehow profitable ways to do that, I would probably try them, but I can't actually think of any realistic ones. Finding money is just luck, not creative. Returning bottles you found is possible but neither creative nor profitable at between 8 and 25 ct per bottle, with most of the bottles being systematically collected by homeless and other ''really'' needy people anyway, and many being so disgusting that you do not want to have them in your bag. May sometimes count as geotrashing, though. Begging people - no, thanks. Playing guitar - apart from that I don't play any instruments, in my ears most street music is just a more noisy variant of begging (exceptions do apply). On the other hand, the usual criteria for a definite "no" don't really apply here, so I struggle to find valid arguments to actually oppose it, but DNO would be too much of agreeing for me, while NW implies that I see a chance to rework it into something good. So, maybe... '''should fall into stasis'''. --[[User:Ekorren|Ekorren]] 09:10, 12 June 2009 (UTC) | If there were interesting and somehow profitable ways to do that, I would probably try them, but I can't actually think of any realistic ones. Finding money is just luck, not creative. Returning bottles you found is possible but neither creative nor profitable at between 8 and 25 ct per bottle, with most of the bottles being systematically collected by homeless and other ''really'' needy people anyway, and many being so disgusting that you do not want to have them in your bag. May sometimes count as geotrashing, though. Begging people - no, thanks. Playing guitar - apart from that I don't play any instruments, in my ears most street music is just a more noisy variant of begging (exceptions do apply). On the other hand, the usual criteria for a definite "no" don't really apply here, so I struggle to find valid arguments to actually oppose it, but DNO would be too much of agreeing for me, while NW implies that I see a chance to rework it into something good. So, maybe... '''should fall into stasis'''. --[[User:Ekorren|Ekorren]] 09:10, 12 June 2009 (UTC) | ||
− | This is interesting, I like it. Of course most of the time it's unachievable and depends upon luck and your skill at conversing with random people (getting them to pay you for random stuff). It would be interesting if you had a hash point fall in a farm and as standard protocol when one goes to ask old McDonald if you can dick around in his crop circle you also ask if you could do 30 minutes of farm work and get paid for it. Or if you're in a metropolis try professionally street begging or skit performing. Use your creativity which is the idea of the achievement. | + | This is interesting, I like it. Of course most of the time it's unachievable and depends upon luck and your skill at conversing with random people (getting them to pay you for random stuff). It would be interesting if you had a hash point fall in a farm and as standard protocol when one goes to ask old McDonald if you can dick around in his crop circle you also ask if you could do 30 minutes of farm work and get paid for it. Or if you're in a metropolis try professionally street begging or skit performing. Use your creativity which is the idea of the achievement. --[[User:Honorious|Honorious]] 10:45, 21 June 2009 (UTC) |
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So finding money gets you an award. Stealing money obviously doesn't. Begging, busking, and offering things or services for sale may or may not be legal depending on your jurisdiction. Returning bottles for a deposit was a good suggestion. The name is funny, but the concept doesn't do anything for me in the spirit of geohashing. It's like a great name in search of an achievement.
You know what would make it more interesting? If the cash raised were donated to a charity. Or possibly if the geohasher just found a way to donate cash to charity during the geohash.
This user earned the Geocashing Achievement
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Also the achievement description needs to specify clearly whether it is necessary to reach the coordinates in order to claim the ribbon. -Robyn 04:40, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
- I agree with most of your comments. My original idea was to encourage creative ways to make your expeditions less costly (thus invalidating the argument that oh I would certainly geohash more, if the tickets weren't so expensive). On the other hand, just returning a bottle makes the achievement a bit too easy to achieve. As you noticed, I struggle to turn this into a well-defined achievement worth obtaining.
- Donating the cash to a charity is a good idea. I would not discourage to do this after the expedition, but only because I am considering that most of the "charities" I would encounter on the road aren't up to what they promise. I also do not wish to encourage achievements that *require* planning. If you have to prepare yourself with the banking coordinates for your charity of choice before your expedition, that takes a bit off the spontaneity of geohashing. And finally, spontaneously coming up with a way to earn money, *and* having the chance to encounter way to donate to a charity on the way is too much luck.
- This definitely needs work before it can be considered as an achievement. -- relet 08:22, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
If there were interesting and somehow profitable ways to do that, I would probably try them, but I can't actually think of any realistic ones. Finding money is just luck, not creative. Returning bottles you found is possible but neither creative nor profitable at between 8 and 25 ct per bottle, with most of the bottles being systematically collected by homeless and other really needy people anyway, and many being so disgusting that you do not want to have them in your bag. May sometimes count as geotrashing, though. Begging people - no, thanks. Playing guitar - apart from that I don't play any instruments, in my ears most street music is just a more noisy variant of begging (exceptions do apply). On the other hand, the usual criteria for a definite "no" don't really apply here, so I struggle to find valid arguments to actually oppose it, but DNO would be too much of agreeing for me, while NW implies that I see a chance to rework it into something good. So, maybe... should fall into stasis. --Ekorren 09:10, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
This is interesting, I like it. Of course most of the time it's unachievable and depends upon luck and your skill at conversing with random people (getting them to pay you for random stuff). It would be interesting if you had a hash point fall in a farm and as standard protocol when one goes to ask old McDonald if you can dick around in his crop circle you also ask if you could do 30 minutes of farm work and get paid for it. Or if you're in a metropolis try professionally street begging or skit performing. Use your creativity which is the idea of the achievement. --Honorious 10:45, 21 June 2009 (UTC)