Talk:False start consolation prize

It is particularly frustrating, to be sure, but does such a specified case really need a consolation prize? Can't you just go with a Gratuitous ribbon? Therefore Do not oppose leaning towards oppose --HiroProtagonist 21:03, 11 November 2010 (UTC) (P.S. What is the Potsdam datum???)

Yes I could, but I know of at least two other people affected by this. One was hashing with me, the other one had it happening to him independently (and quite a while ago). Also, it is seriously meant to alleviate the frustration, should this happen to anyone else again, because I was very down after realizing it.
Oh, and the Potsdam datum is (as Ekorren put it) "one way of dealing with the fact that the earth is not a perfect sphere", just not the customary one for modern-day applications. Check it out on Wikipedia! --mtu 21:09, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

But does a special consolation prize for this really alleviate the frustration more than a gratuitous ribbon plus an existing consolation prize? --HiroProtagonist 21:16, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

I agree that this is basically a blinded by science case gone horribly wrong. I would probably make me a scarred by science consolation gratuitous ribbon for perseverance, if that happened to me. On the other hand, any gratuitous ribbon claimed by three people already deserves maybe a bit of an explicit definition. Tis a dno for me. --relet

I have no problem with this ribbon, and i think it would cover all sorts of 'that's actually a FAIL! due to inexperience' circumstances. I can see how it would be something that is much more important for beginning hashers, even while it may seem a bit superfluous to experienced hashers. I can also see how it would encourage newer hashers to accept expeditions as failures when they might otherwise be reluctant to. Also: it's a nice fun monument to ongoing failure DNO --mykaDragonBlue [- i have no sig -] 23:43, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

Question: Would this apply for geohashers who use one method of deciding "reaching the geohash", and discover later that it's invalid? For example, go to the closest address (because that's the "coordinate" they get), and find out later they really need to get within 10 meters/0.0001 degrees/GPS error range?
Also, I thought this was for geohashes where you start the expedition expecting the geohash to be in one location, and find out on the way there that it's a completely different location ("Well, now we don't need the canoe.") -- Jevanyn 15:45, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

The way I see it, your first example would qualify, while your second one would not. Going to the wrong coordinates consistently on your first N≥2 geohashes (for whichever reason) is exactly what this is about. Using the wrong means of transportation doesn't directly qualify, unless that would have made you unable to reach the hashes ("We can't crawl under that bridge with the canoe.") --mtu 19:51, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

I'd like it better if it was more about the nothing-goes-right periods that all of us have from time to time, but this incident does seem to have affected a few people and maybe it will encourage a brand-new geohasher after a major mishap. DNO Jiml 03:19, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Have to agree with HiroProtagonist, specific case, probably will only apply to very few cases, oppose -- Mampfred 12:56, 24 November 2010 (UTC)