Talk:Origin geohash achievement

The Achievements page talks of visiting "the geohash in the graticule you were born in for the day on which you were born". Does "day on which you were born" mean the specific decades-ago day on which my birth occurred - effectively giving me a single, static point in space that I can amble over to at my leisure at some future point? Or am I supposed to interpret it as the date on which I was born - one day per year, giving me a randomly-selected location to aim for on the other side of the country? --Youhas 19:55, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

"This can be achieved by visiting the geohash in the graticule you were born in for the day on which you were born. Which would be pretty crazy." I interpret this to mean that you visit the point at your leisure, and the point is the one in the graticule you were born in on the day you were born. As if you went geohashing the same day you were born, but are doing it later. If you were to give birth at a hash, your offspring would automatically achieve this achievement.

I originally thought it meant that you go back to the point you were born on a specific day, but then you'd probably have to visit a delivery room, which may be occupied, and it doesn't really have much to do with geohashing anyway. -- Moose Hole 20:01, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

I am sure this is the one date on which you were born, as opposed to the date on which you celebrated some the anniversary of that date. -Robyn 23:02, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Naming conventions

We were having a discussion about this in #geohashing, moving it here to make it more accessible.

The problem was, if you do a retro meetup, should you name the page with the date you went, or the date of the original coords? Similarly, how should you categorise the page and photos.

My personal opinion is the date should be the date you went. You can display the actual coords using the map tool. Also, there should be no Category:Meetup in XXXX-XX-XX tag for the page or photos. Everything should be tagged Category:Retro meetup. Note that you can remove the automatically added "Meetup in XXXX-XX-XX" tag from the expedition page by adding "retro = 1" to the template.

My opinion is based on me being too lazy to create category pages for every retro date :) --joannac 00:23, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

I would prefer the name of the page being the date of the coordinates. One reason is that a clash with another expedition on the same date would matter less. If you take the date you went, it can happen that there are several expeditions on the same date in the same graticule with different coordinates which would mess up the map and everything. If the page is named after the coordinates day, the only thing that could be messed up is the "retro" flag if there was a non-retro and a retro expedition to the same place - which is very unlikely.

About the pictures, I'd suggest to put them all into the Retro Meetup category like the expedition page and in no date bound category. --Ekorren 00:30, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Ah, good point, I hadn't thought of that. I don't mind as long as it's consistent, and doesn't require me having to create heaps of Category pages. Anyone else want to add a opinion? --joannac 00:37, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for alerting me to this one, Joanne. I feel strongly about it. I do not want the retro geohashes being logged as, e.g. "Meetup on 1965-12-30" and for three reasons.

• One) It is inaccurate. It was not a meetup on that date.
• Two) Retro hashes will eventually clash with real geohashes. E.g. someone who got married last year decides to do a retro wedding hash next year. They can mess up Last Man Standing, and have a name-clash with an expedition that really took place on that date. Saying "which is very unlikely" is an extremely poor way to set up a naming scheme. The number of very unlikely things geohashers have done in just seven months is quite astonishing, and I have no doubt many more lie ahead.
• Three) It is a maintenance issue to manage categories and other aspects of the wiki infrastructure required to properly support one expedition that claims to have happened in 1965 but didn't really.

Nor is it appropriate to name the retro expedition page after the date it was conducted. The string 2008-12-30 49 -123 is a coordinate referring to a very specific place and date. Nothing else should be tagged with those coordinates. And the same argument for point Two above applies.

Retro hashes should be named according to the date they apply to, that is the date you would enter into the peeron app in order to get the correct coordinates. The categories should be Meetup in LAT LONG, Retro meetup, and a category relating to the achievement, e.g. Origin reached. The last needs some cleaning up. -Robyn 23:02, 30 December 2008 (UTC)