Talk:Achievements

I don't think this exists anywhere, by no means is it a complete list, i hope its in the spirit of geohashing. zorg

Award Icons?

It might be nice for someone (not me, I leave for Paris in 12 hours) to make some small icons representing the awards, which users could, say, post on their user page after having completed each. Any takers?

Matt 14:27, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Oh, definitely. Preferably small icons that could be put on the page for the specific hash,next to everyone who's been around. Might have a look at it next week if no one else bothers with it, got another GH related challenge to work on tomorrow. Nazgjunk 21:08, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

I almost made a page for each individual Geohash achievement, where there can be a list of people who have gotten it. I'll chuck that up, and time giving, will add an icon. I'll make them all at the same time so they're the same style though (better to be xkcd style right?) (about halfway through this, but i can't think of a good way to draw public transport geohash) --zorg

I converted the land (standard) icon into an vector format image (in order to print poxel-free geohash-signs). Uploading SVG is disabled, but you can find it here --Hermann 16:20, 27 May 2008

I uploaded the water icon, feedback anyone? --Zorg 04:59, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Now the "going deep" one. This is great procrastination guys. --Zorg 05:19, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Those are great, man! I particularly like the underground one! Could the public transit one maybe have two busses going opposite directions with two GeoHashers high-fiving out the window? ...or even someone sitting in a plane? AshleyMorton 05:42, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!! :) Hehe the highfive one is cool, i'll make the sign on the bus be coordinates, instead of a location name aswell :D Thanks! --Zorg 05:51, 23 May 2008 (UTC) ... just uploaded the couch potato one :) --Zorg 07:21, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Wow! I suggest the idea, go off the grid for ten days, and come back to find it implemented! Thanks, guys. I'll be working on organizing the achievements section and fleshing out the missing pages and icons over the next few weeks. Anyone up for compass icons for the farthest north/south/east/west geohashes? Matt 15:20, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Widdershins 00:29, 26 May 2008 (UTC) - The next obvious step is to use these icon images in templates intended for people's user profiles. I have made the templates for {{mnimb geohash}}, {{land geohash}}, {{water geohash}}, {{goingdeep geohash}}, {{twister geohash}}, {{snowman geohash}}, and {{goingup geohash}} (and now the {{mnb geohash}}). I also added the Origin Geohash achievement and corresponding template {{origin geohash}}. Ideally, we should have the icons mentioned above to cover all of these. So please, get to work :D

Proof

How do you submit the proof? Post it on this site?
and how do you do that with the public transit version....
And.... does it count for every single day or are the saterday meetings the only ones allowed? :) (Come to think of it, how can you be at exactly 4pm at a pub. transit location? :P) --Evo-- 22:42, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

I envisioned that you would post it on your talk (make that your kind of 'profile' page), along side a photo. Achievements can count for any day of the week. (Hey maybe we could have Monday GeoHash.... Tuesday Geohash... ect ). And proof isn't always necessary, it'd be most of a personal achievement Really this should have a website more complicated than a wiki, with profiles and stats n whatnot. So we can compete for Geohasher of the month/week/year. zorg

For the public transit version, I pictured a photo of a watch and a GPS doohickey, your smiling face, and a background that is clearly the inside of a bus. But really, I'm not going to check. AshleyMorton 23:08, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

I added a proof section to the page, Is watch, location & you is enough?

Also I realise this means nobody has won a Geohash award yet :/ zorg

And for time zone challenged locations (where it is physically impossible for me to get to a weekday geohash without a time machine), are we allowed to show time proof of the next day, or should we set our watches to a foreign time zone? --Phire 04:41, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm in melbourne, so I understand your worry, but if you guys decide to all use the previous days DOW opening, if thats what gets decided then you can still get achievements. I think we've all got to just trust everyone to claim these only when they have earnt them, if you want to fake it and earn an achievement you didn't get.... well, meh. So totally go ahead and take photos of whatever you decide to do. Thats my opinion. But don't go to mondays geohash on like... friday. That wouldn't count. --Zorg 04:54, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

It seems to me y'all are over-thinking this. It's A Good Thing that some people will have "loose" ethics around their proof and others will say "only <foo> counts" -- it's all the more community! If the author of an achievement wants to limit it, they can. If not, not. It's all pretty-much honor system, anyway; it's not as if anyone's going to get a celebrity endorsement for having the most geohashing awards, or anything :) By way of example, I loosened the "on the spot" criteria for Air Geohash to account for the fact that it's pretty darned near impossible to hit an exact spot within a meter in an airplane. Ted 02:32, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Community

I added a community achievements section. Also, a achievements category. zorg

Two Different Kinds of Achievements

I was in the IRC and someone suggested a 'highest geohash' achievement. Should achievements for which only one perosn can hold them at a time have a seperate section, or be on this page aswell? (we also came up with alot of different ideas, eg - Most Precarious, Sexiest (Strip Club), Most Inconvineint, Most Unlikely (Randalls House) so there would definitely be a fair few things people could try and go for. What do you think? Can you think of anymore ideas for that section? --Zorg 08:03, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Sure, the more the merrier - the only thing would be that if we end up with a lot, we'll have to find a way to format this page a bit better. One aspect of that formatting would be that we could put the "high prestige" (Most Successful GeoHashes, Largest Meetup to Date, ...) and the "gateway", easy to get, ones (Land GeoHash, maybe one or two more) at the top, because, really, the rest are just displays of our own weird senses of humour, not real awards. AshleyMorton 10:07, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

I made a massive change to the way the page is organised, but I think it was neccessary because the page was getting huge. Now we can have HEAPS of achievements in the one place :) --Zorg 01:21, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

We need a Rick Astley Achievement. In Denver we played and sang Never Gonna Give you Up in the woods.

Repeating my thoughts from below...Seems kinda silly to me to have an award for every single mildly interesting situation that might happen during a geohash. For example, "do Z while at a geohash" is not really enough to need an award. Let's keep it simple. --Joel 20:21, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Youngest / Oldest / etc

So, a ten-month old geohasher scouted the 37, -121 spot with me today. Can he claim youngest geohasher? And, for that matter, anyone want to claim eldest? --Tapin 05:37, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Time sensitive awards...

How about awards for being at the geohash location at midnight say, or at sunrise/sunset?

Listifying

I've listified much of the page. Perhaps there should be some slight guidelines that if you are going to add an achievement add some explanation of what you mean, and create a page. Evil Monkey 11:35, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Ideas

Seems kinda silly to me to have an award for every single mildly interesting situation that might happen during a geohash. Looking at the list below, I think perhaps Double Geohash is the only one worth keeping, maybe not even that one (no offense to whoever came up with them). What's the point of having five hundred achievements? Keep it simple. --Joel 20:13, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

• Double Geohash - reaching two in one day
• International Geohash - go to a different country (easiest for people in say 43, -79)
• Martyr - injured reaching a geohash (double points if combined with Couch Potato or Cubicle)
• V.I.P - geohash in a members-only or pay-to-enter location
• Passing Through - went through geohash but couldn't stay. Examples include going through it on a train, plane, or chased by wild animals
• Party Crasher - Interrupted a social event (i.e. wedding)
• Hammer Time - Reached geohash using the MC Hammer Slide
• Tape Measure Geohash - Have a tape measure extending contest at the geohash
• Cross Country Geohash - Travel from point A to B at the rate of one Lat/Lon quadrant a day, reaching the respective Geohash each day.

I disagree, at least for now. Let's let this evolve in "brainstorming" mode, and let it self-organize for a while. After some time has passed, we can see how things are shaping up and then present ideas for organization. For now, though, I'd hate to quash anyone's creative muse just because someone else thinks it's too silly. Heck, it is the Spontaneous Adventure Generator, after all, and a silly-grin is part of the proof-photo requirement...! Ted 02:28, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Restricted Geohash

I would discourage having an award for a "restricted area" geohash, as it is clearly against the disclaimer

Disclaimer: When any coordinates generated by the Geohashing algorithm fall within a dangerous area, are inaccessible, or would require illegal trespass, DO NOT attempt to reach them. Please research each potential location before attempting to access it. You are expected to use proper judgment in all cases and are solely responsible for your own actions. See more guidelines.

Scottkuma 19:17, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

I added the disclaimer to the page. Still, as long as the person has legal access (most likely a member of the military) this award is fair game. Matt 15:20, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

My understanding of the R.A. achievement is that it is qualified with "...to which you have legal access." So, for example, if you work on a Military base and the spot is on-base, or similar. Ted 15:42, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

When I wrote this achievement, I briefly considered adding a wink-and-nod reference to people trying this who don't have clearance, but decided to leave that out. We should definitely not be encouraging illegal activities. Being in the "I'm better than you" section, it would follow that only a person in posession of legit access to the site would be able to claim it. Thanks, Matt for putting the disclaimer on the page.

The original idea came from a story told by my wife about one of her classes. She had an asshole professor who was only teaching because he had to. His main task was doing Important Research at a university-related off-campus lab accessible only by badge and he decided that he would set his office hours at that site, thereby eliminating the possibility that any students would show up. The Mrs just so happened to be working at that facility as part of a separate project, so she did have access and showed up with her homework one day. The prof did a doubletake, asked her how she got in. When she waved her badge, he smiled and gracefully helped her out with her questions. FunkyTuba 20:41, 2 June 2008 (UTC)