Talk:OpenStreetMap achievement

Criticise away

Support as I proposed it! This is certainly version one and it will need to be tweaked. I lifted the icon from OSM. Perhaps it could link to OSM in the finished ribbon. -- Sourcerer 16:49, 4 July 2011 (EDT)

Support. What I really like about it, is the fact that it can be gotten without a 'successful' expedition. I think there should be more ribbons like that. Too often I see a hashpoint that looks nice, but then I decide not to go just because it's on privately owned landed and probably unreachable. Going would mean I can just add a report to my list of failed expeditions and that's not very fun. Just *going* on an expedition should be promoted, the achievements are really too much pointed at reaching the exact hash point. Getting close would be nice too, if I could claim some kind of reward for that. Just my thoughts. Not even sure if this is the right place to put them. CO2 17:11, 4 July 2011 (EDT)

Support. Especially those of us in more remote graticules can find themselves in very rarely traveled parts of the world. I think this is a great way to encourage geohashers to keep their eyes open and help us learn about what's out there! Jack1254 21:23, 27 September 2011 (EDT)

Support --Crox 13:58, 28 September 2011 (EDT)

Support. It's a great idea to aggrandize public knowledge via geohashing - it might even be a good excuse if someboby wonders "what the hell are you doing out here?". I also like that it's a nice consolation ribbon if you don't reach the coordinates. --ilpadre 00:59, 29 September 2011 (EDT)

Ready for prime time?

It seems this has met the requirements for a proposal. I've edited the page to better resemble an achievement page as opposed to a proposal. I've also created a new ribbon based on the example one. Unless there are any objections, I think this should be moved to OpenStreetMap Achievement when the proposal template is removed. Thoughts? --Jack1254 10:54, 1 October 2011 (EDT)

Moved to "New Achievements" --Jack1254 15:42, 3 October 2011 (EDT)

Nice one! If more people link geohashing with OSM authoring it will benefit both communities. Also the hashpoints frequently occur in out-of-the-way places so less commonly visited places should get mapped. Sourcerer 02:07, 9 October 2011 (EDT)

I just removed one blank line from the template to make it lay out the same as all the other templates. Sourcerer 07:44, 21 May 2012 (EDT)

Do tracklogs count?

Geohashers often generate GNSS tracklogs and since a hashpoint is not likely to be closely geographically related to one's daily life (if it is by coincidence, that is a Couch Potato Geohash achievement or Curse of Unawareness consolation prize), a trimmed tracklog poses no privacy problem. On OSM's end, tracklogs are very useful for confirming a road is where the map thinks it is (roads traced from satellite imagery can fall prey to displacement errors), and finding connectivity errors too. user:Arlo James Barnes (user talk:Arlo) 00:00, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

The achievement is for "contributing one or more new geographical features worth adding to OpenStreetMap". My understanding is that you must edit the map to claim it - just uploading a tracklog IMHO doesn't get you the achievement. But I'd say if you upload a tracklog then improve an existing way it would count as well. Usually people link to the OSM changeset using the achievement template.

--Crox (talk) 05:09, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

This seems like a good way to do it. That way the tracklog instantly gets some use, and then is there for any future utility. Arlo (talk) 11:55, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

Remove requirement for feature to be visible from hash

I propose to remove requirement for feature to be visible from hashpoint, especially given that it is written in "proof" section, but not definition. It's easy to prove with tracklog (and optionally photos) that I was there. Specifically, I have used an unmarked road while on a trip to/from hashpoint and have added it to map and have a tracklog to prove it. V1993 (talk) 15:11, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

I think it was meant to connect editing of a real-world feature with the hashpoint (a non-real feature not includable in the map) by a flexible metric of proximity. But I agree that it's unnecessarily limiting. Your added road would definitely count, in my opinion. I support removal of the wording (or rephrasing to make it clear it is not a requirement) but I think we should wait for a third opinion before changing it. Arlo (talk) 19:36, 23 May 2021 (UTC)

I wasn't there when this achievement was made, but I believe that the requirement that the feature must be visible from the hash was included on purpose to make it more difficult to achieve. Similar requirements exist for the pub geohash and the hash collision achievement. Going to a pub not visible from the Geohash can still be fun without being a pub geohash. Finding a geocache not visible from the Geohash can still be fun without being a hash collision. And adding a road not visible from the Geohash to OSM is definitely a valuable contribution to OSM, even without being a Geohashing achievement. That being said, I do not oppose removing the rule if more users support doing so. --Fippe (talk) 20:22, 23 May 2021 (UTC)

I fully support this proposition. The achievement currently states that it can be claimed by those who do not reach the geohash, but that the features must be visible from the geohash. Is this not a direct contradiction? How could you be certain that the features are visible from the geohash without being at the geohash? I think it should absolutely be changed to a requirement of having actually been at the feature that is being contributed, instead of requiring it to be seen from the geohash. --KerrMcF (talk) 16:04, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

Adding Expansions

As per the discussions at Talk:Mapillary achievement, it has been suggested that the OSM achievement could be expanded to include more ways to contribute. This would involve making the achievement a more broad 'contributions achievement' of some kind, the name of which is yet to be decided. Several additions that have been mentioned here as well as on Discord include Mapillary, KartaView, OpenBenches, Wikimapia, and Niantic Wayfarer. Discussion of this topic would be greatly appreciated. --KerrMcF (talk) 23:43, 19 June 2024 (UTC)