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Robyn & Wade prefer to go via München so as to stow their luggage there, but understand that part of the complexity of Die Bahn means that we shouldn't do that. We're going on IRC now to try and find out what's going on. | Robyn & Wade prefer to go via München so as to stow their luggage there, but understand that part of the complexity of Die Bahn means that we shouldn't do that. We're going on IRC now to try and find out what's going on. | ||
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| + | We basically decided to go via München, unless zb very much objects. This is the schedule: | ||
| + | Tübingen 9:15 | ||
| + | ... | ||
| + | Ulm 11:02 / 11:24 | ||
| + | München 13:22 / 13:44 | ||
| + | Eggmühl 14:59 / 15:12 | ||
| + | Köfering 15:22 | ||
| + | (walk to hash and then to the busstop) | ||
| + | Köfering Schloss 16:13 by bus | ||
| + | Regensburg Hbf 16:40 (or get off a stop earlier which might be closer to the centre) | ||
| + | This variant has several advantages: It allows to leave the luggage at München, which makes the walking part easier and faster, and there are 7 minutes more of time at Köfering. Together with using the bus back it will give us enough time at Köfering to not be in a hurry, and still leaves about 3 hours at Regensburg. --[[User:Ekorren|Ekorren]] 18:47, 24 October 2010 (UTC) | ||
===The general idea=== | ===The general idea=== | ||
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This is what might happen: | This is what might happen: | ||
* Robyn, Wade, Ekorren start in Tübingen around 9 am. | * Robyn, Wade, Ekorren start in Tübingen around 9 am. | ||
| − | * zb starts in München around 8:30 or 9:00, and tries to meet them somewhere on the way to Regensburg. | + | * zb starts in München around 8:30 or 9:00, and tries to meet them somewhere on the way to Regensburg.* Everyone will meet dawidi in Regensburg, and we will walk around the town for a bit. |
| − | * Everyone will meet dawidi in Regensburg, and we will walk around the town for a bit. | ||
* We will head on to Köfering and check out the coords there. | * We will head on to Köfering and check out the coords there. | ||
* Most of us will then head on to München. | * Most of us will then head on to München. | ||
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===Tickets=== | ===Tickets=== | ||
Ekorren, for what parts of the trip will you have your own tickets? Are you using an IC/ICE from München to Ulm at night? I'm thinking about bringing a By-Ticket to Ulm, which would have to have my name on it, could be used by us throughout the day and would also be good for Robyn, Wade and me in München after we get to München Hbf. --[[User:Zb|Zb]] 18:13, 24 October 2010 (UTC) | Ekorren, for what parts of the trip will you have your own tickets? Are you using an IC/ICE from München to Ulm at night? I'm thinking about bringing a By-Ticket to Ulm, which would have to have my name on it, could be used by us throughout the day and would also be good for Robyn, Wade and me in München after we get to München Hbf. --[[User:Zb|Zb]] 18:13, 24 October 2010 (UTC) | ||
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| + | :I won't have any other ticket than the Bayern-Ticket for Bayern. Current plan is: | ||
| + | :*Go to Ulm with the Bayern-Ticket on a late train (22:02 from München, 0:01 at Ulm) | ||
| + | :*Buy a ticket for the IC from Ulm to Plochingen, pretending to want to continue to Tübingen by RE with the Baden-Württemberg-Ticket from the morning | ||
| + | :*Try to convince DB to pay for a taxi from Stuttgart to Tübingen because the IC was late and missed the train to Tübingen (this might be different in case the RE waits for the IC. The IC being in time is something that basically doesn't happen, though) | ||
== Expedition == | == Expedition == | ||
Revision as of 18:47, 24 October 2010
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Location
In Köfering, on what looks like a farm yard or small industrial facility. Might not be accessible, but the option of meeting Dawidi in Regensburg still makes it worth trying.
Participants
The current überplannen
The current plan is this: Robyn, Wade & Ekorren will arrive at Köfering either at 15:22 via München or 15:29 via Ingolstadt and Regensburg. (Robyn wanted to say "about 15:25," but Ekorren made her type it precisely, saying it was insufficiently German, if she didn't). Wade and Robyn will take their luggage 1.5 km to the geohash, and other geohashers will beat or mock them if they whine about it. One hundred metres from the geohash is a bus stop where we can catch a bus to Regensburg at 16:13 or 16:43, (25 minute trip) so we don't have to walk back to the station with luggage.
Robyn & Wade prefer to go via München so as to stow their luggage there, but understand that part of the complexity of Die Bahn means that we shouldn't do that. We're going on IRC now to try and find out what's going on.
We basically decided to go via München, unless zb very much objects. This is the schedule:
Tübingen 9:15 ... Ulm 11:02 / 11:24 München 13:22 / 13:44 Eggmühl 14:59 / 15:12 Köfering 15:22 (walk to hash and then to the busstop) Köfering Schloss 16:13 by bus Regensburg Hbf 16:40 (or get off a stop earlier which might be closer to the centre)
This variant has several advantages: It allows to leave the luggage at München, which makes the walking part easier and faster, and there are 7 minutes more of time at Köfering. Together with using the bus back it will give us enough time at Köfering to not be in a hurry, and still leaves about 3 hours at Regensburg. --Ekorren 18:47, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
The general idea
Robyn and Wade from Vancouver, Canada, are in Germany and plan to travel from the Heidelberg or Tübingen area to München. As can be expected from geohashers with attitude (GWA), they don't just take the straight connection, but want to (i) see stuff on the way and (ii) log successful geohashes while doing so. As of 2010-10-23, they are exploring BaWü with Ekorren and plan to leave his home graticule on Monday morning. Ekorren found out that it would be possible to meet dawidi in Regensburg, see lots of beautiful ancient bricks there and head on to this location before continuing on to München in 48 11. zb has the day off, so he can meet the group along the way. Everyone is happy if others join in somewhere along the way. --Zb 08:48, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Schedules
We have been told that the type of extensive planning we have done in preparation for our adventure on the Eibsee ([[1]]) was in contradiction to geohashing being a spontaneous type of activity. How-firetrucking-ever. We will look into train schedules before starting, again! We will make the best use of Deutsche Bahn's confusing pricing structure, again. This is Germany, and we will show the Canadians an example of precision and efficiency they won't even see on one of those documentaries about high-tech engineering projects on Discovery Channel, where German technology is often involved with much precision and efficiency. Or something. --Zb 08:48, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
This is what might happen:
- Robyn, Wade, Ekorren start in Tübingen around 9 am.
- zb starts in München around 8:30 or 9:00, and tries to meet them somewhere on the way to Regensburg.* Everyone will meet dawidi in Regensburg, and we will walk around the town for a bit.
- We will head on to Köfering and check out the coords there.
- Most of us will then head on to München.
(This plan is not very precise yet, albeit already somewhat efficient. Please edit as necessary. --Zb 08:48, 23 October 2010 (UTC))
I just looked up some connections. Please edit as is best for you. This is an updated version already. Some less reasonable options are included. We may need them only if stuff goes wrong.
From Tübingen, option 1/2, including all stops along the way:
+-------------------------+--------+--------+----------+----------------+ | Bahnhof | An | Ab | Zug Nr. | Bemerkungen | +-------------------------+--------+--------+----------+----------------+ | Tübingen Hbf | | 08:57 | IRE 3252 |FB B9 11 | | Reutlingen Hbf | 09:06 | 09:07 | | | | Stuttgart Hbf | 09:43 | 10:02 | IRE 4225 |FB | | Plochingen | 10:15 | 10:16 | | | | Göppingen | 10:26 | 10:27 | | | | Geislingen(Steige) | 10:39 | 10:40 | | | | Ulm Hbf | 11:02 | | | | +-------------------------+--------+--------+----------+----------------+
From Tübingen, option 2/2, including all stops along the way:
+-------------------------+--------+--------+----------+----------------+ | Tübingen Hbf | | 09:15 | RB 22908 |FB K2 | | Tübingen-Lustnau | 09:18 | 09:18 | | | | Kirchentellinsfurt | 09:21 | 09:22 | | | | Wannweil | 09:24 | 09:24 | | | | Reutlingen-Betzingen | 09:26 | 09:27 | | | | Reutlingen West | 09:29 | 09:29 | | | | Reutlingen Hbf | 09:31 | 09:31 | | | | Reutlingen-Sondelfingen | 09:34 | 09:34 | | | | Metzingen(Württ) | 09:38 | 09:39 | | | | Bempflingen | 09:42 | 09:42 | | | | Nürtingen | 09:49 | 09:49 | | | | Oberboihingen | 09:52 | 09:52 | | | | Wendlingen(Neckar) | 09:55 | 09:59 | S 1 |1. FB EH 3T | | Wernau(Neckar) | 10:02 | 10:02 | | | | Plochingen | 10:06 | 10:16 | IRE 4225 |FB | | Göppingen | 10:26 | 10:27 | | | | Geislingen(Steige) | 10:39 | 10:40 | | | | Ulm Hbf | 11:02 | | | | +-------------------------+--------+--------+----------+----------------+
Both connections arrive in Ulm on the exact same train. The first one makes you leave 18 minutes earlier, but you have to make only one connection with all your luggage. There is another connection via Nürnberg (and not via Ulm), leaving Tübingen at 9:37 and arriving Regensburg at 15:29. Could be an option, if, for some reason, you can't get the connections above. But, as Ekorren already said, travelling along the Donau/Danube via Ulm should be a lot nicer.
From München
(I'm still checking options, but there are plenty, so no problem)
Then, with zb joining the group somewhere along the way:
+-------------------------+--------+--------+----------+----------------+ | Bahnhof | An | Ab | Zug Nr. | Bemerkungen | +-------------------------+--------+--------+----------+----------------+ | Ulm Hbf | | 11:44 | RB 37743 |FB K2 | | Neu-Ulm | 11:47 | 11:48 | | | | Nersingen | 11:53 | 11:54 | | | | Leipheim | 11:59 | 11:59 | | | | Günzburg | 12:03 | 12:04 | | | | Gundelfingen(Bay) | 12:12 | 12:13 | | | | Lauingen | 12:16 | 12:17 | | | | Dillingen(Donau) | 12:21 | 12:27 | | | | Höchstädt(Donau) | 12:32 | 12:33 | | | | Blindheim | 12:37 | 12:37 | | | | Schwenningen(Bay) | 12:40 | 12:40 | | | | Tapfheim | 12:44 | 12:45 | | | | Donauwörth | 12:52 | 13:03 | | | | Genderkingen | 13:09 | 13:10 | | | | Rain | 13:12 | 13:15 | | | | Burgheim | 13:20 | 13:20 | | | | Straß-Moos | 13:23 | 13:23 | | | | Unterhausen(Bay) | 13:27 | 13:27 | | | | Neuburg(Donau) | 13:31 | 13:32 | | | | Rohrenfeld | 13:37 | 13:37 | | | | Weichering | 13:41 | 13:41 | | | | Ingolstadt Hbf | 13:51 | 14:05 | RB 32373 |FB K2 | | Ernsgaden | 14:13 | 14:13 | | | | Vohburg | 14:16 | 14:16 | | | | Münchsmünster | 14:21 | 14:21 | | | | Neustadt(Donau) | 14:27 | 14:31 | | | | Abensberg | 14:36 | 14:37 | | | | Saal(Donau) | 14:46 | 14:47 | | | | Bad Abbach | 14:51 | 14:52 | | | | Poikam | 14:54 | 14:54 | | | | Gundelshausen | 14:56 | 14:57 | | | | Sinzing | 15:03 | 15:03 | | | | Regensburg-Prüfening | 15:06 | 15:06 | | | | Regensburg Hbf | 15:12 | | | | +-------------------------+--------+--------+----------+----------------+ | Fahrzeit: 3:28; | +-------------------------+--------+--------+----------+----------------+
On to the geohash:
+-------------------------+--------+--------+----------+----------------+ | Bahnhof | An | Ab | Zug Nr. | Bemerkungen | +-------------------------+--------+--------+----------+----------------+ | Regensburg Hbf | | 15:17 | RB 32523 |FB K2 | | Regensburg-Burgweinting | 15:21 | 15:21 | | | | Obertraubling | 15:24 | 15:24 | | | | Köfering | 15:29 | | | | +-------------------------+--------+--------+----------+----------------+ | Fahrzeit: 0:12; not good. No time for sightseeing, | | not even time to lock the bags. Just mentioned for completeness | +-------------------------+--------+--------+----------+----------------+ | Regensburg Hbf | | 16:22 | RB 32527 |FB K2 | | Regensburg-Burgweinting | 16:26 | 16:26 | | | | Obertraubling | 16:29 | 16:30 | | | | Köfering | 16:34 | | | | +-------------------------+--------+--------+----------+----------------+ | Fahrzeit: 0:12; Not much time for sightseeing. | +-------------------------+--------+--------+----------+----------------+ | Regensburg Hbf | | 16:44 | RE 4249 |FB EH 3T | | Eggmühl | 16:59 | 17:06 | RB 32528 |FB K2 | | Hagelstadt | 17:11 | 17:12 | | | | Köfering | 17:15 | | | | +-------------------------+--------+--------+----------+----------------+ | Fahrzeit: 0:31; This one goes back and forth. through Köfering. | +-------------------------+--------+--------+----------+----------------+ | Regensburg Hbf | | 17:16 | RB 32529 |FB K2 | | Regensburg-Burgweinting | 17:19 | 17:20 | | | | Obertraubling | 17:22 | 17:23 | | | | Köfering | 17:26 | | | | +-------------------------+--------+--------+----------+----------------+ | Fahrzeit: 0:10; Maybe the best option? Allows 1:25 to geohash in | | Köfering if we want to get all connections later on (see below). | +-------------------------+--------+--------+----------+----------------+ | Regensburg Hbf | | 18:16 | RB 32533 |FB K2 | | Regensburg-Burgweinting | 18:20 | 18:20 | | | | Obertraubling | 18:22 | 18:23 | | | | Köfering | 18:27 | | | | +-------------------------+--------+--------+----------+----------------+ | Fahrzeit: 0:11; Might work as well. Allows 0:24 to geohash. Not good. | | we have to walk > 1.5 km one way from Köferin Bf to the coords. | +-------------------------+--------+--------+----------+----------------+
Heading on to München via Regensburg to collect the luggage will not make the trip much longer. Seems like it's just ca. 15 minutes more than the connections via Landshut, so this is no big deal at all.
+-------------------------+--------+--------+----------+----------------+ | Köfering | | 17:23 | RB 32528 |FB K2 | | Obertraubling | 17:26 | 17:27 | | | | Regensburg-Burgweinting | 17:29 | 17:30 | | | | Regensburg Hbf | 17:38 | 17:46 | ALX87017 |FB FZ SN RO EH 3T A8 | | Neufahrn(Niederbay) | 18:09 | 18:10 | | | | Landshut(Bay)Hbf | 18:25 | 18:27 | | | | Freising | 18:46 | 18:48 | | | | München Hbf | 19:15 | | | | +-------------------------+--------+--------+----------+----------------+ | Fahrzeit: 1:52; 8 min in Reg (!). | | If it won't work, we can still take ALX87019 (see below). | +-------------------------+--------+--------+----------+----------------+ | Köfering | | 17:27 | RB 32529 |FB K2 | | Hagelstadt | 17:30 | 17:30 | | | | Eggmühl | 17:36 | 17:59 | RE 32054 |FB | | Regensburg Hbf | 18:16 | 18:34 | ALX87019 |FB FZ SN RO EH 3T A8 | | Landshut(Bay)Hbf | 19:10 | 19:11 | | | | Freising | 19:30 | 19:31 | | | | München Hbf | 19:58 | | | | +-------------------------+--------+--------+----------+----------------+ | Fahrzeit: 2:31; 18 min in Reg. | | A bit stupid, because it goes back and forth through Köfering. | +-------------------------+--------+--------+----------+----------------+ | Köfering | | 18:51 | RB 32530 |FB K2 | | Obertraubling | 18:55 | 18:55 | | | | Regensburg-Burgweinting | 18:58 | 18:58 | | | | Regensburg Hbf | 19:03 | 19:47 | ALX87021 |FB FZ SN RO EH 3T A8 | | Neufahrn(Niederbay) | 20:10 | 20:11 | | | | Landshut(Bay)Hbf | 20:25 | 20:27 | | | | Freising | 20:46 | 20:48 | | | | München Hbf | 21:15 | | | | +-------------------------+--------+--------+----------+----------------+ | Fahrzeit: 2:24; plenty of time in Regensburg. | | This might be the best option. | +-------------------------+--------+--------+----------+----------------+ | Köfering | | 20:27 | RB 32540 |FB K2 | | Obertraubling | 20:31 | 20:31 | | | | Regensburg-Burgweinting | 20:34 | 20:34 | | | | Regensburg Hbf | 20:40 | 20:44 | RE 4253 |FB EH 3T | | Regensburg-Burgweinting | 20:48 | 20:48 | | | | Obertraubling | 20:51 | 20:51 | | | | Köfering | 20:55 | 20:56 | | | | Hagelstadt | 20:59 | 21:00 | | | | Eggmühl | 21:05 | 21:06 | | | | Neufahrn(Niederbay) | 21:16 | 21:17 | | | | Ergoldsbach | 21:20 | 21:21 | | | | Landshut(Bay)Hbf | 21:34 | 21:47 | RE 4291 |FB | | Moosburg | 21:57 | 21:58 | | | | Freising | 22:08 | 22:09 | | | | München Hbf | 22:35 | | | | +-------------------------+--------+--------+----------+----------------+ | Fahrzeit: 2:08; only 4 min in Reg. (!!!). | | Also, too late for Ekorren to make the train he needs back from | | München at 22:02. All in all, not good. | +-------------------------+--------+--------+----------+----------------+ | Köfering | | 20:27 | RB 32540 |FB K2 | | Obertraubling | 20:31 | 20:31 | | | | Regensburg-Burgweinting | 20:34 | 20:34 | | | | Regensburg Hbf | 20:40 | 20:44 | | | | Regensburg-Prüfening | 20:48 | 20:49 | | | | Sinzing | 20:52 | 20:52 | | | | Gundelshausen | 21:03 | 21:04 | | | | Poikam | 21:06 | 21:06 | | | | Bad Abbach | 21:08 | 21:09 | | | | Saal(Donau) | 21:14 | 21:15 | | | | Abensberg | 21:24 | 21:25 | | | | Neustadt(Donau) | 21:30 | 21:31 | | | | Münchsmünster | 21:35 | 21:36 | | | | Vohburg | 21:40 | 21:41 | | | | Ernsgaden | 21:43 | 21:44 | | | | Ingolstadt Hbf | 21:51 | 22:07 | RE 4023 | | | Rohrbach(Ilm) | 22:20 | 22:21 | | | | Pfaffenhofen(Ilm) | 22:27 | 22:28 | | | | Petershausen(Obb) | 22:35 | 22:36 | | | | München Hbf | 22:54 | | | | +-------------------------+--------+--------+----------+----------------+ | Fahrzeit: 2:27; Not good. Same reasons as above. | +-------------------------+--------+--------+----------+----------------+ | Köfering | | 21:08 | RE 4254 |FB EH 3T | | Obertraubling | 21:12 | 21:12 | | | | Regensburg-Burgweinting | 21:15 | 21:16 | | | | Regensburg Hbf | 21:22 | 21:41 | ALX 356 |FB FZ SN RO EH 3T A8 | | Landshut(Bay)Hbf | 22:18 | 22:20 | | | | Freising | 22:39 | 22:41 | | | | München Hbf | 23:06 | | | | +-------------------------+--------+--------+----------+----------------+ | Fahrzeit: 1:58; Just mentioned for the sake of completeness, in case | | there is a serious meltdown of the train system and people don't want | | to spend the night in Köfering, at the platform. Anyhow: Not good. | +-------------------------+--------+--------+----------+----------------+
--Zb 16:54, 23 October 2010 (UTC), edited --Zb 12:03, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Tickets
Ekorren, for what parts of the trip will you have your own tickets? Are you using an IC/ICE from München to Ulm at night? I'm thinking about bringing a By-Ticket to Ulm, which would have to have my name on it, could be used by us throughout the day and would also be good for Robyn, Wade and me in München after we get to München Hbf. --Zb 18:13, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
- I won't have any other ticket than the Bayern-Ticket for Bayern. Current plan is:
- Go to Ulm with the Bayern-Ticket on a late train (22:02 from München, 0:01 at Ulm)
- Buy a ticket for the IC from Ulm to Plochingen, pretending to want to continue to Tübingen by RE with the Baden-Württemberg-Ticket from the morning
- Try to convince DB to pay for a taxi from Stuttgart to Tübingen because the IC was late and missed the train to Tübingen (this might be different in case the RE waits for the IC. The IC being in time is something that basically doesn't happen, though)
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