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Israel is a small country, divided between nine [[graticule|graticules]] from (29,34) to (33,35). The graticules that encompass its major population centers each have their own problems: some are [[Tel-Aviv (Goosh Dan), Israel|almost entirely in the Mediterranean Sea]], others include much of the [[Haifa East, Israel|disputed territories]], and still others contain [[Jerusalem, Israel|a truly staggering amount of desert]]. One even contains [[Beersheba, Israel|all three]] (though, ironically, that's the one in which most of the successful hashes so far have taken place). Almost all of them include some area in neighboring countries of varying degrees of unfriendliness.  
  
Israel is a small country, divided between nine [[graticule|graticules]] from (29,34) to (33,35). In order to unite the few Israeli xkcd fans, a different algorithm is used. Instead of the regular [[graticule]] system, the entire state of Israel is defined by a polygon so that all Israelis share the same meeting point. In addition, red zones define areas that are deemed too dangerous to accessIn order to calculate safe points that fall within the green zone, but outside of the red zones, the new algorithm uses the previous day's exchange rates, as issued by the Bank of Israel.
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As a result, finding a hash that is reachable and safe can be difficult. It is literally impossible for all four of Israel's major graticules to come up with reachable hashes on the same day, and virtually impossible for three. There's about a 50/50 chance there will be two reachable hashes, and a 50/50 chance there'll be only one -- though once in a very long while, all four graticules are unreachable. When in Israel it should be a given that all graticules should be in play and that a geohasher should not consider himself bound to only one graticuleThat way mistakes like these won't happen: [[2008-07-28 31 35]]
  
An implementation of the algorithm can be found [http://www.solstice.co.il/geohashing here]
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In summary, geohashing in Israel is tough, and all points should be evaluated on a case-by-case basis for political safety. This page will chronicle the politically safe hashes for Israelis on any given day.
  
Israeli Geohashers are encouraged to edit the red zones to help other geohashers avoid IDF fire zones, hostile settlements, etc.
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The website amudanan.co.il is useful for really detailed mapping.  Set the coordinates to WGS84 for longitude and latitude.
  
Since Google Maps does not show any map details inside Israel, it is recommended to also work with [http://maps.walla.co.il/ Walla Maps] or [http://www.mapa.co.il/ Mapa], when both maps are on the 'hybrid' setting, until the geohash point can be positively identified. This step can be finalized by using the website [http://amudanan.co.il/ Amud Anan], which has topographical maps of Israel.
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A better option might be just looking up the exact coordinates on a map, but where's the fun in that?
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== Graticules ==
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This is a map of all [[graticule]]s containing parts of Israel.
  
Another possibility (and a pretty good one so far, it seems) is using Google Earth - it's pretty convenient with coordinates, unlike Israeli maps, and has more details than Google Maps. But it is still recommended to use it with the other sites mentioned when pinpointing of the spot is needed.
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Not all Israeli graticules were visited yet, so there still are a few [[Graticule Unlocked|locked graticules]], which are colored orange. If a graticule was visited, it is colored green, unless it has never been visited when the geohash was in Israel, in which case the graticule is colored blue.
  
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The graticules give the name of the first geohasher in that graticule and a link to the first expedition. If the first expedition was not in Israel, the first expedition in Israel and the name of that geohasher is also given, unless there has not been an expedition in Israel yet.
  
== Upcoming Geohashes ==
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* June 7th 2008 - Appears to be, while not inaccessible, pretty much out of the question for anyone who is not a seasoned hiker. A cross-check of the above-mentioned sites resulted in identifying this Saturday's point in a small wadi off the nameless summit 569, near Mitzpe HaMeshar in the Arabah ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desert_of_Paran Paran] area). If anyone actually makes it there, take pictures.
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* June 8th 2008 - Somewhere west of Amman.
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* June 12th 2008 - Once again, not inaccessible but also not very practical; the spot appears to be somewhere along the Nahal Og bike trail, halfway between Mishor Adumim and Almog. Seems like a nice area to hike in, but not very easy as a meetup spot. Other geohash spots today are in the Mishor Adumim industrial zone (for the [[Jerusalem, Israel|Jerusalem]] graticule), and near a dirt road between [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beit_Rimon/ Beit Rimon] and Uzayr (for the [[Haifa East, Israel|Haifa East]] graticule), which also seem quite impractical. Better luck next time?
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* June 13th 2008 - The all-Israel geohash spot is up in Lebanon, so that looks like a no-go... Other geohash spots for today: The Jerusalem graticule's spot is near Nahal Tze'elim, in the Judaean Desert. One again, nice hike, but not much chance of anyone actually getting there. Tel Aviv graticule's spot is in the sea, Haifa East graticule's is outside the Green Line (somewhere near Sebastye), and so is Be'er Sheva's - it's somewhere in the southern part of the Gaza strip, so really it's best to just stay the hell away from there...
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* June 19th 2008 - In the fields near [http://www.sdotnegev.org.il/%5CHtml%20Files%5CHebrew%5CMos_zimrat.html/ Moshav Zimrat], not far from the Gaza Strip but at least within the Green Line this time. Other geohash spots today: Jerusalem's and Haifa's spots are both in Jordan, Tel Aviv's is about 2KM off the Netanya coast (so a beach meet-up might be possible, if people can make it), and Be'er Sheva's is not far north from Be'er Sheva, near Lehavim (which might have been neat if we've known any BGU geohashers, but none have signed up here yet).
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* June 27th, 2008 - Appears to be proximate to Moshav HaZor'im, in Bik'at Yavniel, very near to Tiberias.
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* July 3rd, 2008 - No good again. Same for the 4th, it seems. :(
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|bgcolor=lightgreen| [[33,35|Beirut, LB]] <br> [[User:Yerushalmi|Yerushalmi]] [[2023-03-23 33 35|#]]
:Listen, everyone (is anybody still reading this?) - It seems Israel geohashes aren't working all that great, so far. How about we use the vote mechanism, and decide on a fun place to meet sometime... er, like after the end of this university semester? I'd even be willing to travel to Tel Aviv, if I know there's a real meet-up happening. -- [[User:Lady_Pennywhistle|Lady Pennywhistle]]
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* July 28th, 2008 - Apparently, nobody reads this anymore. :( Is Israeli geohashing dead?Anyway, looking at today's spots, the only relevant one appears to be for the Be'er Sheva graticule, and it's somewhere in some fields near Yavne. The Solstice all-Israel algorithm currently gives me an error message, so I can't find the spot there, but I doubt it's more accessible.
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|bgcolor=lightgreen| [[32,34|Tel-Aviv]] <br> [[User:LiNaK|LiNaK]] [[2012-11-01 32 34|#]]
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|bgcolor=lightgreen| [[32,35|Haifa East]] <br> [[User:LiNaK|LiNaK]] [[2012-09-16 32 35|#]]
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|bgcolor=lightgreen| [[31,34|Beersheba]] <br> [[User:Yerushalmi|Yerushalmi]] [[2009-03-17 31 34|#]]
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|bgcolor=lightgreen| [[31,35|Jerusalem]] <br> [[User:LiNaK|LiNaK]] [[2013-12-29 31 35|#]]
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|style="height:100px"|'''30'''
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|bgcolor=lightgreen| [[30,34|Mitzpe Ramon]] <br> [[User:Yosef|Yosef]] [[2023-05-04 30 34|#]]
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|bgcolor=lightgreen| [[30,35|Aţ Ţafīlah, JO]] <br> [[User:Yerushalmi|Yerushalmi]] [[2023-12-04 30 35|#]]
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|style="height:100px"|'''29'''
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|bgcolor=orange| [[29,34|Eilat]]
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|bgcolor=orange| [[29,35|Al `Aqabah, JO]]
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== Sub-graticules and Participants ==
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== Past expeditions in Israel ==
Those are the original geohash graticules, plus current users:
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* [[2018-07-15 31 34]]  Dubdub and Jordy were in Rehovot
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* See [[User:Yosef|Yosef]] for 2017-23
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* [[2014-02-18 31 34|February 18, 2014]]: Aya, Yael and [[User:LiNaK|LinaK]] Time Wrap their way to a park on the edge of Rishon LeZion.
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* [[2013-12-29 31 35|December 29, 2013]]: Lilac and [[User:LiNaK|Omri]] walk from Motsa to Beit Zait, arriving the the garticule's first successful hash.
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* [[2013-09-19 31 34|September 19, 2013]]: [[User:LiNaK|Omri]] and Maoz reach a successful hash at an empty field in Lachish.
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* [[2013-03-16 32 35|March 16, 2013]]: [[User:LiNaK|Omri]] and Moaz reach a wheat field near Kfar Kish before taking a hike at the Sea of Galilee region.
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* [[2013-01-27 32 34|January 27, 2013]]: [[User:LiNaK|Omri]] with a lucky hashpoint in Holon, at a driveway at Jessie Cohen neighborhood.
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* [[2012-12-14 32 34|December 14, 2012]]: [[User:LiNaK|Omri]] bikes to a primary school in El'ad through Yehud and the Moshavim.
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* [[1995-11-22 32 34|November 22, 1995]]: [[User:LiNaK|Omri's]] origin hash to Ramat Ef'al by bike- taken on 8th of December, 2012.
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* [[2012-11-01 32 34|November 1, 2012]]: [[User:LiNaK|Omri]] and Tal get lost at Petah Tikva and the fields north of it, probably arriving at the hashpoint after many long hours of walk.
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* [[2012-09-16 32 35|September 16, 2012]]: [[User:LiNaK|Omri]] and Moaz reach the hash at Forest Segev near Ya'ad, also visiting Tel Yodfat.
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* [[2012-08-16 31 34|August 16, 2012]]: [[User:LiNaK|Omri]] and Tal go GPS-free to a successful hash in front of an Ulpena at Askelon.
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* [[2012-07-17 31 34|July 17, 2012]]: [[User:LiNaK|Omri]], Tal and Lilac, three brave new geohashers, discover Israeli public transport and eat pizza at the city of Asdod.
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* [[2011-07-02 32 35]] in [[Haifa East, Israel|Haifa]] - Acording to satellite the point is 500m into the Kinneret lake, hoping that the drought reviled the spot.
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* [[2011-05-29 31 34|May 29, 2011]]: [[User:pseudoDust|pseudoDust]] successful hash near Kiryat Gat.
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* [[2009-12-29 32 34|December 29, 2009]]: [[User:Yerushalmi|Yerushalmi]] and his wife went for as close as they could get to the [[Tel-Aviv (Goosh Dan), Israel|Tel Aviv]] hashpoint. They didn't really go for the hashpoint itself.
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* [[2009-10-06_32_35|October 6, 2009]]: [[User:Yerushalmi|Yerushalmi]] and his wife were stopped by a gate guard at the Tamboor factory in the [[Haifa East, Israel|Haifa East graticule]].
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* [[2009-08-23 31 35|August 23, 2009]]: [[User:Adumu|Adam]] and the virgin Geohasher [[User:gavriel|Gavi]] reached the [[Jerusalem, Israel|Jerusalem graticule's]] hashpoint right outside of Modi'in.
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* [[2009-08-16 31 34|August 16, 2009]]: [[User:Yerushalmi|Yerushalmi]] and his wife reached the [[Beersheba, Israel|Beersheba graticule's]] hash point in Rehovot.
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* [[2009-07-17 31 34|July 17, 2009]]: [[User:ReyLey|Rachel]] and  [[User:Adumu|Adam]] Successfully reached the [[Beersheba, Israel|Beersheba graticule's]] hash point and it is dedicated to Gavi and Gracie
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* [[2009-06-24 31 34|June 24, 2009]]: [[User:ReyLey|Rachel]] had to break off and go back home while on the way to the hashpoint.
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* [[2009-06-18 32 34|June 18, 2009]]: [[User:Yerushalmi|Yerushalmi]] tried valiantly to get a [[Puppet Master Geohash]] without even leaving his seat. It didn't work.
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* [[2009-04-13 32 34|April 13, 2009]]: [[User:Yerushalmi|Yerushalmi]] and his wife didn't even try to reach the [[Tel-Aviv (Goosh Dan), Israel|Tel Aviv graticule's]] hashpoint, but somehow came close anyway.
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* [[2009-04-10 31 34|April 10, 2009]]: [[User:Yerushalmi|Yerushalmi]] and his wife reached the [[Beersheba, Israel|Beersheba graticule's]] hash point near Kfar Bin Nun.
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* [[2009-03-17 31 34|March 17, 2009]]: [[User:Yerushalmi|Yerushalmi]] and his wife successfully reached the [[Beersheba, Israel|Beersheba graticule's]] hash point in Kfar Truman.
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* [[2008-07-28 31 35|July 28, 2008]]: Alternative location cheat in [[Jerusalem, Israel|Jerusalem]] by [[User:Lady Pennywhistle|Lady Pennywhistle]].
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* [[2008-05-28 32 35|May 28, 2008]]: [[Haifa East, Israel|Haifa East graticule point]] was unsuccessfully reached by [[User:Ynor|Ynor]]
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== Geohashers by Graticule ==
 
* [[Jerusalem, Israel]]
 
* [[Jerusalem, Israel]]
 
** [[User:Lady Pennywhistle|Lady Pennywhistle]] lives in French Hill, Jerusalem
 
** [[User:Lady Pennywhistle|Lady Pennywhistle]] lives in French Hill, Jerusalem
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** [[User:Yerushalmi|Yerushalmi and his wife]] the humble one who needs to post past expeditions
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** [[User:ReyLey|Rachel]] has most weekends off and wont mind going to a random place.
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** [[User:Adumu|Adam]] Rachel's success story.
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** [[User:pseudoDust|pseudoDust]]
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** [[User:Yosef|Yosef]]
 
* [[Tel-Aviv (Goosh Dan), Israel]]
 
* [[Tel-Aviv (Goosh Dan), Israel]]
 
** [http://dorshemer.com/blog/ Dor]
 
** [http://dorshemer.com/blog/ Dor]
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** [[User:Bryan A|Bryan A]] (Moving to this graticule in July)
 
** [[User:Bryan A|Bryan A]] (Moving to this graticule in July)
 
** [[User:Avish|Avish]]  
 
** [[User:Avish|Avish]]  
** [[User:pseudoDust|pseudoDust]]
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** [[User:LiNaK|LiNaK]]
 
* [[Haifa East, Israel]]
 
* [[Haifa East, Israel]]
 
** [[User:Ynor|Ynor]]
 
** [[User:Ynor|Ynor]]
 
** [[User:Pr0nto|Pr0nto]]
 
** [[User:Pr0nto|Pr0nto]]
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** [[User:MetricSystemDude|MetricSystemDude]]
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* [[Beersheba, Israel]]
  
 
Any other users: Don't just lurk! Add yourselves to the wiki pages, so we can know who's participating and try to arrange meetups!
 
Any other users: Don't just lurk! Add yourselves to the wiki pages, so we can know who's participating and try to arrange meetups!
  
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== Flexibility ==
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It is important when in Israel to understand that though your graticule may not always accessible another one might be.  In this example, [[2008-07-28 31 35]], the hasher thought that since the hashpoint for Jerusalem was in Jordan, that there was no chance for her to geohash that day.  What she didn't realize was that there was a perfectly accessible hashpoint near Yavne in [[Beersheba, Israel]].  Let's all try not to make that mistake again.
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== Advice for Israelis and Tourists Traveling in Judea and Samaria "Yosh"==
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Note: Israel is a small country and Judea and Samaria is a large part of it.  It is often where the most accessible points for Israelis are within Judea and Samaria.  While this is not the place to discuss politics, the writer will use the de jure and de facto names that are given by the Israeli government as that is the authority responsible for managing and governing the area.  This document will focus on recommendations for Israelis and tourists (henceforth Israelis) who do not speak Arabic.  Those who do speak Arabic will probably have a difference perspective.  The geohasher is requested to use his own judgment and find a local who knows the area for more help.
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The first thing that one must know about traveling in Yosh is that there are three types of areas in accordance with the Oslo Accords.  Areas A and B are for Jordanians and tourists only and is managed by the Palestinian Authority.  This area is considered Palestine.  Area C is open to Israelis.  Most of Area C is also open to Jordanians but there is a separation fence which they are not allowed to cross that prevents them from entering into 1948 Israel and many settlements.
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The safest way for Israelis to know where to go is to follow the bus lines.  The Transportation Ministry is very careful about where they allow buses to stop in Yosh, but most settlers think that these stops are foolish and prefer to hitchhike from other places as well.  If you see settlers hitchhiking you can assume that the area is reasonable.  Know the difference between Arab and Jewish bus companies.  The Jewish bus companies may have some Arab drivers but they are much safer for Israelis.
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It is strongly recommended to park your car in an area where other Israelis have parked their cars.  Car theft is very common in Yosh and the Palestinian Authority is rarely cooperative with helping return stolen cars.
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Israeli settlements are safe enough for the settlers to raise their kids there and leave them at home.
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It is recommended that the geohasher know the difference between religious Jews and Muslims.
  
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Buses are heavily reinforced so while rocks may damage car windows, buses are often safe.
  
* [http://www.solstice.co.il/geohashing/ An implementation of the algorithm]
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A final note of warning: There is no right or wrong in this area. The law is commonly abused and it is best to be safe rather than right. Racial profiling may save your life.
* [http://dorshemer.com/blog/2008/05/22/geohashing-israel/ Hebrew explanation of an older algorithm]
 
  
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Latest revision as of 23:58, 26 November 2024

Israel is a small country, divided between nine graticules from (29,34) to (33,35). The graticules that encompass its major population centers each have their own problems: some are almost entirely in the Mediterranean Sea, others include much of the disputed territories, and still others contain a truly staggering amount of desert. One even contains all three (though, ironically, that's the one in which most of the successful hashes so far have taken place). Almost all of them include some area in neighboring countries of varying degrees of unfriendliness.

As a result, finding a hash that is reachable and safe can be difficult. It is literally impossible for all four of Israel's major graticules to come up with reachable hashes on the same day, and virtually impossible for three. There's about a 50/50 chance there will be two reachable hashes, and a 50/50 chance there'll be only one -- though once in a very long while, all four graticules are unreachable. When in Israel it should be a given that all graticules should be in play and that a geohasher should not consider himself bound to only one graticule. That way mistakes like these won't happen: 2008-07-28 31 35

In summary, geohashing in Israel is tough, and all points should be evaluated on a case-by-case basis for political safety. This page will chronicle the politically safe hashes for Israelis on any given day.

The website amudanan.co.il is useful for really detailed mapping. Set the coordinates to WGS84 for longitude and latitude.


Graticules

This is a map of all graticules containing parts of Israel.

Not all Israeli graticules were visited yet, so there still are a few locked graticules, which are colored orange. If a graticule was visited, it is colored green, unless it has never been visited when the geohash was in Israel, in which case the graticule is colored blue.

The graticules give the name of the first geohasher in that graticule and a link to the first expedition. If the first expedition was not in Israel, the first expedition in Israel and the name of that geohasher is also given, unless there has not been an expedition in Israel yet.

N\E 34 35
33 Beirut, LB
Yerushalmi #
32 Tel-Aviv
LiNaK #
Haifa East
LiNaK #
31 Beersheba
Yerushalmi #
Jerusalem
LiNaK #
30 Mitzpe Ramon
Yosef #
Aţ Ţafīlah, JO
Yerushalmi #
29 Eilat Al `Aqabah, JO

Past expeditions in Israel

Geohashers by Graticule

Any other users: Don't just lurk! Add yourselves to the wiki pages, so we can know who's participating and try to arrange meetups!

Flexibility

It is important when in Israel to understand that though your graticule may not always accessible another one might be. In this example, 2008-07-28 31 35, the hasher thought that since the hashpoint for Jerusalem was in Jordan, that there was no chance for her to geohash that day. What she didn't realize was that there was a perfectly accessible hashpoint near Yavne in Beersheba, Israel. Let's all try not to make that mistake again.

Advice for Israelis and Tourists Traveling in Judea and Samaria "Yosh"

Note: Israel is a small country and Judea and Samaria is a large part of it. It is often where the most accessible points for Israelis are within Judea and Samaria. While this is not the place to discuss politics, the writer will use the de jure and de facto names that are given by the Israeli government as that is the authority responsible for managing and governing the area. This document will focus on recommendations for Israelis and tourists (henceforth Israelis) who do not speak Arabic. Those who do speak Arabic will probably have a difference perspective. The geohasher is requested to use his own judgment and find a local who knows the area for more help.

The first thing that one must know about traveling in Yosh is that there are three types of areas in accordance with the Oslo Accords. Areas A and B are for Jordanians and tourists only and is managed by the Palestinian Authority. This area is considered Palestine. Area C is open to Israelis. Most of Area C is also open to Jordanians but there is a separation fence which they are not allowed to cross that prevents them from entering into 1948 Israel and many settlements.

The safest way for Israelis to know where to go is to follow the bus lines. The Transportation Ministry is very careful about where they allow buses to stop in Yosh, but most settlers think that these stops are foolish and prefer to hitchhike from other places as well. If you see settlers hitchhiking you can assume that the area is reasonable. Know the difference between Arab and Jewish bus companies. The Jewish bus companies may have some Arab drivers but they are much safer for Israelis.

It is strongly recommended to park your car in an area where other Israelis have parked their cars. Car theft is very common in Yosh and the Palestinian Authority is rarely cooperative with helping return stolen cars.

Israeli settlements are safe enough for the settlers to raise their kids there and leave them at home.

It is recommended that the geohasher know the difference between religious Jews and Muslims.

Buses are heavily reinforced so while rocks may damage car windows, buses are often safe.

A final note of warning: There is no right or wrong in this area. The law is commonly abused and it is best to be safe rather than right. Racial profiling may save your life.