Difference between revisions of "Proposed achievements"

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This page explains how to propose new achievements (ribbons).

Proposed achievements
2000s	Geocashing · Nanny
2010s	Networking · Tag the hash
2020s	EcoFriendly · Graticuleader · Guard Dog · Holiday · Planes trains and automobiles · Sightseeing · Vexillology

Proposing a new achievement

Anyone can propose a new achievement.

Create a new page (go to https://geohashing.site/geohashing/{achievement}, replacing {achievement} with your achievement name).
Enter a description. The more detailed, the better. Try to be clear about questions such as:
- Is it required for the achiever to reach the geohash?
- What proof is required?
- Are there any special rules that restrict the geohasher's behaviour?
Use the Template:Ribbon to demonstrate what the ribbon may look like. The achievement does not need its own template at this stage, you can use the Ribbon template directly in the page.
Add the [[Category:Proposed achievements]] category, and no others.
Once you're happy with the proposal, click "Create this page".
Edit the Template:Proposed achievements page to add a link to your new achievement. Your entry should be ordered alphabetically.
Tell people about it. Perhaps this could be done in our Discord server, or by messaging people you know.
Keep a watch for comments from others, which may include suggestions on how to improve your proposal.

Discussing a proposal

To discuss a proposed achievement, head to the talk page of the proposed achievement. If there isn't one, create it by clicking the "Discussion" tab at the top of the page.

Add a comment as follows:

Support - you think this proposal should be added with zero or minor changes
Do not oppose - you think it's boring/meh/not for you, but it wouldn't harm to have it created
Oppose - you have a specific reason as to why this ribbon should not exist (state this reasoning in your comment)
Needs work - you think the achievement should be created after more significant changes have been made

Proposals: what not to do

Avoid proposing achievements where:

The activity proposed is illegal, offensive, intrinsically dangerous, or contrary to the spirit of geohashing. This means no achievements for theft, vandalism, rudeness, environmental damage, or anything similar.
The ribbon is a subset of - or has a large overlap with - an existing ribbon, such that everyone who won one would win both.
The ribbon is for a trivial activity that almost anyone could do at almost any geohash without significant preparation.
The ribbon cannot be earned across the globe. Achievements should not require geohashers to be located in a specific part of the world in order to earn it. This means a "geohash in Canada" achievement should not be made, but a "geohash near to a pub" could and has been made.

Passing the proposal stage

When the achievement...

has been open for discussion for at least seven days
has a complete page, including a ribbon
has supporters from different graticules, and
no longer has any noteworthy opposition (meaning, opposition that has not been resolved or is reinforced by other geohashers)

...the Proposed achievement category is replaced by the New achievement category, the page/template get proper categories, and a listing is made in the appropriate section of the Achievements page. The proposal is also removed from the Template:Proposed achievements page. To ensure real support, the person who finalises the achievement should not be the same as the one who proposed it, even if every vote is supportive. You can notify another user if you believe there is no reason for your proposal not to go ahead.

Failing the proposal stage

If an achievement has a large volume of opposition and the reasons for this opposition are not resolved through discussion, then the Proposed achievements category is replaced with the Rejected achievements category, the reason explained succinctly on the page, and the page otherwise marked to make sure it isn't confused with an achievements page. The proposal is also removed from the Template:Proposed achievements page and added to the Template:Rejected achievements page.

Templates

The template Template:Proposal talk adds a link to the talk page if it is on a main page. If it is already on a talk page, it asks for comments to be written below.

This is a proposal made on {{{date}}}. Please leave comments and suggestions on Talk:Proposed achievements, indicating your thoughts on the proposal, including:

Support - you think this proposal should be added with zero or minor changes
Do not oppose - you think it's boring/meh/not for you, but it wouldn't harm to have it created
Oppose - you have a specific reason as to why this ribbon should not exist (state this reasoning in your comment)
Needs work - you think the achievement should be created after more significant changes have been made

See Proposed achievements for more information on this process.

The template Template:Rejected puts a message box on the page, details the reasons for rejection, and adds the page to the respective category.

This achievement was proposed in the past, but has been rejected, because it was too good to be true. Please read the discussion page for more details.

As per the page proposed achievements: If an achievement has strong opposition and the reasons for opposition are not resolved through discussion, then the proposed achievements category is replaced with the rejected achievements category, the reason explained succinctly on the page, and the page otherwise marked to make sure it isn't confused with an achievements page.

Background: why?

We need this system:

To preserve good ideas and get them turned into ribbons if their proposers don't know how.
To ensure that every new achievement is well-thought-out, clearly described, and free of controversy.
To block the creation of silly ribbons (the same ideas can still be used as gratuitous ribbons).
To ensure that newly created ribbons comply with the naming conventions and are properly listed and categorized.
To make it easy for people to find out about new ribbons.
To save time on "we already talked about that and no one liked it" discussions.

One achievement that could have used such a process is the Speed racer achievement, which to discourage lawbreaking, specifies that achievers must drive the speed limit, but is now controversial where there is either no speed limit (Autobahn, unofficial road) or a very low speed limit. Another achievement, the First Geohasher award - now renamed the Earliest geohasher achievement because of this confusion - was originally intended for the purpose now served by the Graticule Unlocked award, but was poorly defined and ended up being interpreted differently.

Proposed achievements
2000s	Geocashing · Nanny
2010s	Networking · Tag the hash
2020s	EcoFriendly · Graticuleader · Guard Dog · Holiday · Planes trains and automobiles · Sightseeing · Vexillology

Rejected achievements

Airborne · Awesome addiction · Bingo · Boats are for sissies! · Celebrity · Children of the Hash · Christmas GPS · Citation Needed · Day Late and a Dollar Short · Dogwalking · Drunk · False start · Ferry · Fibonacci · Fire safety · First aid · Foreign · Free Culture · Good Samaritan · Hashholiday · Irony · Lying Down Game · Mapillary · Motorcycle · Mythical beast · Over and under · Polyhash · Red spider · Reflowered Graticule · Relay · Rite of passage · Romantic · Rubik's Cube · Samaritan · Save the Crop · Serendipity · Sharing · Ski · Smoking · Stacking · Strange attractor · Travelling hashman · Tree dresser · Valentine's · Virgin World · With the dead · You Lost

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 Anyone can propose a new achievement.
-# Create a page for it (go to '''<nowiki>https://geohashing.site/geohashing/{achievement}</nowiki>''', replacing '''{achievement}''' with your achievement name, and click "Create this page").
+# Create a new page (go to '''<nowiki>https://geohashing.site/geohashing/{achievement}</nowiki>''', replacing '''{achievement}''' with your achievement name).
-# Enter a description. The more detailed the better. Try to be clear about questions like:
+# Enter a description. The more detailed, the better. Try to be clear about questions such as:
-#* Does the achievement require that you get to the hashpoint?
+#* Is it required for the achiever to reach the geohash?
 #* What proof is required?
-#* Any special rules?
+#* Are there any special rules that restrict the geohasher's behaviour?
-# Use the [[Template:Ribbon]] to show what the ribbon would look like. You don't need to create a special template for the achievement at this stage, you can use the Ribbon template directly in the page.
+# Use the [[Template:Ribbon]] to demonstrate what the ribbon may look like. The achievement does not need its own template at this stage, you can use the Ribbon template directly in the page.
 # Add the <nowiki>[[Category:Proposed achievements]]</nowiki> category, and no others.
-# Edit the [[Template:Proposed achievements]] page to add a link to your new achievement.
+# Once you're happy with the proposal, click "Create this page".
-# Tell people about it, perhaps in the Discord, or messaging people you know.
+# Edit the [[Template:Proposed achievements]] page to add a link to your new achievement. Your entry should be ordered alphabetically.
+# Tell people about it. Perhaps this could be done in our Discord server, or by messaging people you know.
+# Keep a watch for comments from others, which may include suggestions on how to improve your proposal.
 ==Discussing a proposal==
-To discuss a proposed achievement, go to the talk page of the proposed achievement. If there isn't one, create it by clicking the "Discussion" tab at the top of the page.
+To discuss a proposed achievement, head to the talk page of the proposed achievement. If there isn't one, create it by clicking the "Discussion" tab at the top of the page.
-Comment as follows:
+Add a comment as follows:
-* '''Support''' the proposal - love it, like it, approve it, feel the sport will be better for its existence
+* '''Support''' - you think this proposal should be added with zero or minor changes
-* '''Do not oppose''' - think it's a bit dumb, boring, meh, or of no personal interest, but won't hurt anything
+* '''Do not oppose''' - you think it's boring/meh/not for you, but it wouldn't harm to have it created
-* '''Oppose''' - there is a specific stated reason why this ribbon should not exist
+* '''Oppose''' - you have a specific reason as to why this ribbon should not exist (state this reasoning in your comment)
-* '''Needs work''' - this might be viable but has problems the way it is
+* '''Needs work''' - you think the achievement should be created after more significant changes have been made
-If you can think of a way to improve the proposal, you are also welcome to edit it directly.
 == Proposals: what not to do ==
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 Avoid proposing achievements where:
-* The activity proposed is illegal, offensive, intrinsically dangerous, or contrary to the spirit of geohashing. That is, no achievements for theft, vandalism, rudeness, environmental damage or the like.
+* The activity proposed is illegal, offensive, intrinsically dangerous, or contrary to the spirit of geohashing. This means no achievements for theft, vandalism, rudeness, environmental damage, or anything similar.
-* The ribbon is a subset of, or has a large overlap with, an existing ribbon, such that everyone who won one would win both.
+* The ribbon is a subset of - or has a large overlap with - an existing ribbon, such that everyone who won one would win both.
-* The ribbon is for a trivial activity that almost anyone could do at almost any geohash without preparation.
+* The ribbon is for a trivial activity that almost anyone could do at almost any geohash without significant preparation.
-* The ribbon depends on the coordinates falling at some very specific place. Existing exceptions include [[Golf Geohash]], [[Restricted Area Geohash]] and [[Pub Geohash]]. Golf courses and restricted areas generally cover very large areas
+* The ribbon cannot be earned across the globe. Achievements should not require geohashers to be located in a specific part of the world in order to earn it. This means a "geohash in Canada" achievement should not be made, but a "geohash near to a pub" could and [[Pub Geohash|has been made]].
 ==Passing the proposal stage==
-When the achievement
+When the achievement...
-* has been open for discussion for at least ten days
+* has been open for discussion for at least seven days
-* has a complete page including a ribbon
+* has a complete page, including a ribbon
 * has supporters from different graticules, and
-* is no longer opposed by anyone
+* no longer has any noteworthy opposition (meaning, opposition that has not been resolved or is reinforced by other geohashers)
-... then the '''Proposed achievement''' category is replaced by '''New achievement''' plus the page and template get proper categories and a listing in the appropriate section of the [[Achievements]] page.  The person who removes it from the Proposed achievements category shouldn't be the same person as the one who proposed it, to ensure real support.
+...the '''Proposed achievement''' category is replaced by the '''New achievement''' category, the page/template get proper categories, and a listing is made in the appropriate section of the [[Achievements]] page. The proposal is also removed from the [[Template:Proposed achievements]] page. To ensure real support, the person who finalises the achievement should not be the same as the one who proposed it, even if every vote is supportive. You can notify another user if you believe there is no reason for your proposal not to go ahead.
 ==Failing the proposal stage==
-If an achievement has strong opposition and the reasons for opposition are not resolved through discussion, then the '''Proposed achievements''' category is replaced with the '''Rejected achievements''' category, the reason explained succinctly on the page, and the page otherwise marked to make sure it isn't confused with an achievements page.
+If an achievement has a large volume of opposition and the reasons for this opposition are not resolved through discussion, then the '''Proposed achievements''' category is replaced with the '''Rejected achievements''' category, the reason explained succinctly on the page, and the page otherwise marked to make sure it isn't confused with an achievements page. The proposal is also removed from the [[Template:Proposed achievements]] page and added to the [[Template:Rejected achievements]] page.
 ==Templates==
-The template [[:Template:Proposal talk]] puts a link to the talk page if it is on a main page, or asks for comments below if it is already on a talk page.
+The template [[:Template:Proposal talk]] adds a link to the talk page if it is on a main page. If it is already on a talk page, it asks for comments to be written below.
 {{Template:Proposal talk}}
-The template [[:Template:Rejected]] puts a message box on the page, detailing the reasons for rejection and adding the page to the respective category
+The template [[:Template:Rejected]] puts a message box on the page, details the reasons for rejection, and adds the page to the respective category.
 {{Template:Rejected|reason = it was too good to be true}}
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 == Background: why? ==
 We need this system:
-* To preserve good ideas and get them turned into ribbons when their proposers don't know how.
+* To preserve good ideas and get them turned into ribbons if their proposers don't know how.
-* To ensure that every new achievement is well thought out, clearly described and free of controversy.
+* To ensure that every new achievement is well-thought-out, clearly described, and free of controversy.
-* To block the creation of stupid ribbons (the same ideas can still be [[Gratuitous Ribbon|Gratuitous Ribbons]]).
+* To block the creation of silly ribbons (the same ideas can still be used as [[Gratuitous Ribbon|gratuitous ribbons]]).
-* To ensure that newly created ribbons comply with naming conventions and are properly listed and categorized.
+* To ensure that newly created ribbons comply with the naming conventions and are properly listed and categorized.
 * To make it easy for people to find out about new ribbons.
 * To save time on "we already talked about that and no one liked it" discussions.
-A couple of examples: One achievement that could have used such a process is the [[Speed racer achievement]], which to discourage lawbreaking, specifies that achievers must drive the speed limit, but is now controversial when there is no speed limit (Autobahn, unofficial road) or a very low speed limit. Meanwhile the [[First Geohasher]] award (now renamed the [[Earliest geohasher achievement]] because of this confusion) was originally intended for the purpose now served by the [[Graticule Unlocked]] award, but was poorly defined and ended up meaning something else.
+One achievement that could have used such a process is the [[Speed racer achievement]], which to discourage lawbreaking, specifies that achievers must drive the speed limit, but is now controversial where there is either no speed limit (Autobahn, unofficial road) or a very low speed limit. Another achievement, the [[First Geohasher]] award - now renamed the [[Earliest geohasher achievement]] because of this confusion - was originally intended for the purpose now served by the [[Graticule Unlocked]] award, but was poorly defined and ended up being interpreted differently.
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 {{rejected achievements}}