Geohashing Day 2011 Extravaganza

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This page is the beginning of the planning for a Geohashing Day 2011 Extravaganza. This hopefully will be a massive meetup of geohashers from all around the globe, and also as a way to entice new people to become geohashers. Is there better time to start a tradition of huge global meetups than on the first Geohashing Day which also falls on Mouseover Day? We think not!

Origins

relet and aperfectring were talking one day in November 2010, and the topic of Journey to the End of the Night came up. That activity was started as a part of another internet game-type thing both of those users participate in, and has since become sort of an extravaganza which is held a couple of times a year in widely varied locations. Many people will travel from far and wide to go to this extravaganza, even people who don't normally participate in the activity in general. Relet thought it would be nice to have some kind of global geohashing extravaganza similar to that, and aperfectring suggested that a good time to start that up would be on Geohashing Day 2011, which is 2011-05-21, a Saturday.

Plans

The current plan is to create some sort of poll for where we plan to converge. We should probably nail down the general location (within maybe 1-2 graticule radius at least) by the end of January 2011, so that people can buy airline/public transport tickets while they are still cheap. After we have a general location, we will rename this to GHD 2011:Location. Once the coordinates for GHD 2011 are announced, or maybe beforehand, we will decide on the graticule which we will all visit. At that point, we should move this page to the expedition page, and begin the planning for the expedition itself in earnest. Discussion should take place below.

Proposed locations

Location Pros Cons
Berlin, Germany
  • Has the potential for getting a large number of people, since it is "in the middle" of a large concentration of active geohashers (especially in Germany, Sweden and Finland).
  • Is a large city, so is easy for people to get to. Particularly, most Europeans could attend without flying.
  • Seems quite likely to produce an accessible geohash in the vicinity.
  • Likely to be a rather uninteresting hashpoint.
  • Might not be enticing for new geohashers to join.
  • Might not make the global meetup interesting enough to convince the geohashing community to hold another for some time.
Italian Alps
  • Almost assuredly an interesting hashpoint.
  • Seems likely to convince new people to join, due to the sheer awesomeness.
  • Seems likely to convince geohashing community to keep holding massive pre-organized global meetups, and doing so in interesting places.
  • Likely to produce unreachable hashpoints.
  • Might convince many geohashers not to come, because of remoteness/difficulty.
  • Might discourage drag-alongs from joining, thus reducing the overall effectiveness of the recruitment aspect.
Himalayas
  • Almost assuredly an interesting hashpoint.
  • Very likely to break geohashing altitude record.
  • Possibility of being on Mt. Everest!
  • Would get to go geohashing with crampons and an ice axe.
  • Likely to produce unreachable hashpoints. kill us all.
Vancouver, Canada
  • It's the *epic graticule*! =)
  • It's far away from Europe. :(
Baden-Württemberg or Bavaria, Germany
  • There are local geohashers
  • There's almost always a reachable hashpoint in the state
  • Reasonably well organized public transport
  • Cheap public transport daypasses allow to choose hashpoint from many graticules
  • Usually less boring hashpoints than Berlin
  • Rarely really epic hashpoints
Switzerland
  • Epic hashpoints
  • Amazingly well organized public transport
  • Affordable public transport daypasses for the whole country allow to choose hashpoint from several graticules
  • Certain risk that even if considering the whole country, no hashpoint is accessible
  • Physical fitness might be needed for some points
  • Ho(s)tel and restaurant prices will make you faint
Boston, Massachusetts
  • Large number of geohashers, past and present
  • Reasonable driving distance for Northeasters U.S.
  • Geohash could be in the "Big Dig".
  • Chance to meet Randall Monroe
  • Boston traffic
  • Geohash could be in Boston Harbor
Suggest your own location!
  • Pro list
  • Con list

Potential Participants

Person Planning on coming? Planning on bringing anyone? Other comments
APR Yes No I suggest this happen in central mainland Europe, due to the high concentration of geohashers there, but am willing to go just about anywhere for it!
Crox Yes Possibly What about a meetup in the Swiss Alps? More comments below.
dawidi Yes likely Count me in for a point anywhere in the alps.
Ekorren Likely if not too far Unlikely Depends on location and accommodation possibilities. Central, Northern or Eastern Europe preferred (this does not include Italy)
Fasanen Considering it Not unlikely Will consider trip to location in Scandinavia or mainland Europe, in or north of the alps.
HiroProtagonist Maybe, if in Canada / NE of US Maybe I would love to, but can't afford to travel far. As I'll probably be around Toronto at 2010-05-21, (east) Canada and north-east of the US would be the only possibilities for me...
Jevanyn Likely, if in Northeast US Yes I'd suggest the Newark graticule, but it's a backyard, a farm, or some other private property 95% of the time. Would also like to meet other geohashers, which is strikingly unlikely in NJ.
lyx Yes (if in Europe) Could be Would love to meet you!
Meghan Probably not (unless it's in Edmonton) Unlikely Unless anyone wants to pitch in for airfare for myself and a wee one, I doubt I will make it :)
mtu Very likely if in Europe Unlikely Will most probably come by train.
myka Yes (to europe) No Since I'm in the area anyway...
Phyzome Maybe No If air travel required, depends on TSA procedures at the time. Willing to travel out-of-country. Also, must be after May or June of 2011.
relet Yes Yes If it happens near, I shall be able invite people. If not, I shall have room in a car or train or some such. :)
Rincewind Yes, if I can make it My gf, if (her) time allows it Only one of the German locations, if they survive planning stage.
thepiguy Unlikely Unlikely If anyone know a good way for me to make a lot of money in a very short time, I'm open to suggestions!
Vswe Probably not - I would love to though.

Discussion

This is the section for people to discuss about the timing, the merits of locations, and anything else related to this whole idea. We should keep the talk page clean for now, so that it is easier to move this page when that time comes. If this starts to become really large, we will move it to the talk page, but for now, discussing here should be fine.


I really want this to become a regular thing we do. Whether it be on geohashing day only, some other day of the year only, or even multiple times a year. I think it is a good way of keeping a geographically sparse community tight-knit. It could be bunches of fun, especially if we come up with some kind of tradition which we only do (or better yet, only CAN do) for this recurring meetup which gives us a story to talk about, and convince us to come time and again. The location should rotate to new parts of the world, and, once we get the tradition going, possibly even parts of the world near no currently active geohashers. --aperfectring 04:24, 24 November 2010 (UTC)


My reasoning behind waiting about 6 months to hold the first meetup:

  • Rather than picking an arbitrary (to geohashing) date to do this on, why not pick a holiday already recognized?
  • Gives people time to plan out vacation time, and travel, which should allow for more people to be able to attend.
  • Gives the people planning out the expedition time to make get things right, so that we have a good template for holding these things in the future.
  • Since the first one of these meetups is quite likely to be in the northern hemisphere (since that's where the majority of geohashers are), waiting until the springtime should provide better weather, and probably better attendance. --aperfectring 04:24, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
  • Will give us plenty of time to set a location, and still have time for people to do outreach to get more people coming after the location is set. --aperfectring 21:03, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

What do you think? Are you in? Where would you like to see this happen? -- relet 16:17, 24 November 2010 (UTC)


What about advertizing this on the xkcd forums? This is "xkcd geohashing" after all. But we may want to wait until we have a better picture of what it will be. --Crox 20:13, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

That is a great idea! I would like to, however, have the general location set by the geohashing community first, and then, once we have that set, we advertise it to the world via as many means as we a denizens of an internets can think of. While this is meant as an outreach activity, it is primarily a geohashing activity. I really would like this to be something that the community wants to do, which is also a good way to get people interested in the activity as well. We should have plenty of time to get a location set, and still do outreach to get other people excited about the expedition. --aperfectring 21:03, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
As another thought, though, maybe we could get Randall involved in this process, and possibly even convince him to come to our extravaganza. That could be a good way to draw a bunch of people into it! Again, I like the way you are thinking Crox! --aperfectring 21:03, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Given that the event is going to be on Saturday, there should definitely be a jolly night out before and/or after the hashing! Before, the merits of the different reachable hashpoints could be discussed, and after, we can all rejoice at still being alive! --mtu 12:12, 25 November 2010 (UTC)