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That improves the achievement, and discourages trespassing when day six comes up and it's in a frigging military encampment. We should edit the achievement page to make it clearer what camping is required. Are we allowing wussy camping with an RV?  Are we allowing motor vehicles at all for this achievement? Can you check into a motel if the geohash is in an urban area where camping is prohibited? -[[User:Robyn|Robyn]] 05:16, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
 
That improves the achievement, and discourages trespassing when day six comes up and it's in a frigging military encampment. We should edit the achievement page to make it clearer what camping is required. Are we allowing wussy camping with an RV?  Are we allowing motor vehicles at all for this achievement? Can you check into a motel if the geohash is in an urban area where camping is prohibited? -[[User:Robyn|Robyn]] 05:16, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
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:This achievement is both exciting and difficult to define.  We seem to agree with the spirit of it however.  Something to keep in mind, the participant will have the whole day between hashes.  I bring this up for two reasons.  Strict rules would have to be created for where you are allowed to go and what you can do.  And on the positive side, if the coordinates are indeed blocked by nature or property, you have lots of time to scout around.
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:We could define the "camp out" area as a radius x kms from the coordinates, and if blocked, x kms from the closest reachable point.  If there is a place to stay (hotel, b&b, a barn, etc) within the radius, you could stay there.  It wouldn't always be glorious--in urban areas without an accommodation, you would be required to do exactly what the homeless are forced to do.
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:So, back to the time in between.  No going home and such.  What about food?  Vehicles or bikes would no doubt be needed.  Stay out of all buildings (besides your accommodation)?  RVs... I suppose, but they won't help when there's no road within your radius.  Lastly, perhaps we could consider a different value of days?  Say 3 or 5, but only as a minimum required for any claim of the achievement. [[User:Juventas|Juventas]] 08:40, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
  
 
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I would love to do this, but I'd have to move to a different graticule, where I wouldn't need the underwater camping skill. --Robyn

Could clarify "All destinations". I'm assuming what is meant is that you have to visit all 7 locations in your graticule for that week. --68.37.222.210

Sounds like fun, now what exactly is it...

Do we know who created this achievement? I'm already considering making it my summer holiday, but I would like to develop the achievement a bit more. Juventas 23:25, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

I think that the description still stems from the time when visits in neighbour graticules weren't imaginable. I would suggest it to read "reach one geohash every day", instead of "all destinations". That would allow to travel a bit more (or less) while doing this. -- relet 23:40, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
Contrary to the rumour, I did not personally invent this achievement. I think I made the ribbon image and there's a good chance that I created this particular page but it would have only been to transcribe and flesh out the achievement, from the old days when all the achievements were listed on one page. It was almost certainly intended by its creator as a joke, but no, Juventas, you're definitely not the first to consider making a vacation out of it. I've been mulling for a while over the best graticule to try it in. I agree with Relet that it should be acceptable to reach one geohash per day, not restricted to a single graticule. I would, however, feel that the spirit of the achievement had been somewhat slighted if the person drove several hundred miles each day just to get to the easiest geohash, instead of slogging through woods and swamps and up mountains. But it would still be a glorious vacation. Pick a [starting] graticule and a date and we'll give it a go. -Robyn 03:54, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
Well, here's how I see it: You are not restricted to a single graticule, and you have to launch at least one expedition per day. Coordinates do not have to be reached. This makes the achievement less about strict guidelines and more about camping and dedicating the time. If you really spend a week geohashing without going home and give a full effort, (and have seven entertaining writeups), this achievement is yours. I am very strongly considering doing this option for my spring break. I would start on Sunday, March 1st and finish on the 7th. I will keep you guys updated... --Woodveil 04:39, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
My opinion - An attempt must be made to reach the coordinates. If you fail by mother nature or private property, camp nearby. Thus the spirit of the achievement is maintained. I think we need to get that geohash SMS up and running, though - otherwise you have to return to a nearby internet access 4 days out of 7. --Thomcat 06:11, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
I've already agreed below, but now I'll play devil's advocate. Can I do the endurance geohash in a graticule that has only the tiniest tip on the shore, and just camp on that beach for a week? Can I do it by driving to the closest approach to each one by road and saying that it was too hard to go through the bush? Probably yes, we just accept that there will be different levels of awesomeness in doing this achievement, as there are in all geohashes. I was thinking of doing an endurancce geohash in ... nah, I won't give it away. -Robyn 06:34, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

That improves the achievement, and discourages trespassing when day six comes up and it's in a frigging military encampment. We should edit the achievement page to make it clearer what camping is required. Are we allowing wussy camping with an RV? Are we allowing motor vehicles at all for this achievement? Can you check into a motel if the geohash is in an urban area where camping is prohibited? -Robyn 05:16, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

This achievement is both exciting and difficult to define. We seem to agree with the spirit of it however. Something to keep in mind, the participant will have the whole day between hashes. I bring this up for two reasons. Strict rules would have to be created for where you are allowed to go and what you can do. And on the positive side, if the coordinates are indeed blocked by nature or property, you have lots of time to scout around.
We could define the "camp out" area as a radius x kms from the coordinates, and if blocked, x kms from the closest reachable point. If there is a place to stay (hotel, b&b, a barn, etc) within the radius, you could stay there. It wouldn't always be glorious--in urban areas without an accommodation, you would be required to do exactly what the homeless are forced to do.
So, back to the time in between. No going home and such. What about food? Vehicles or bikes would no doubt be needed. Stay out of all buildings (besides your accommodation)? RVs... I suppose, but they won't help when there's no road within your radius. Lastly, perhaps we could consider a different value of days? Say 3 or 5, but only as a minimum required for any claim of the achievement. Juventas 08:40, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Camping

Off topic here... I'm surprised, but it appears there's no kind of camping, tenting, or overnight achievement? I would create one, but as Robyn knows, I can't even get around to finishing my own expedition pages. It would be a great achievement that many could participate in. It would also be a great warm up to this achievement. Rules would be simple:

  • reach the coordinates by the 4pm meetup time
  • camp out within 1km of the coordinates
  • stay at least until sunrise
  • you can use a tent, a box, or whatever shelter you want except buildings, RVs, or vehicles
That's a fabulous idea, and well defined. -Robyn 07:37, 21 February 2009 (UTC)