Talk:Endurance Geohashing

I would love to do this, but I'd have to move to a different graticule, where I wouldn't need the underwater camping skill. --Robyn

Could clarify "All destinations". I'm assuming what is meant is that you have to visit all 7 locations in your graticule for that week. --68.37.222.210

Sounds like fun, now what exactly is it...

Do we know who created this achievement? I'm already considering making it my summer holiday, but I would like to develop the achievement a bit more. Juventas 23:25, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

I think that the description still stems from the time when visits in neighbour graticules weren't imaginable. I would suggest it to read "reach one geohash every day", instead of "all destinations". That would allow to travel a bit more (or less) while doing this. -- relet 23:40, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Contrary to the rumour, I did not personally invent this achievement. I think I made the ribbon image and there's a good chance that I created this particular page but it would have only been to transcribe and flesh out the achievement, from the old days when all the achievements were listed on one page. It was almost certainly intended by its creator as a joke, but no, Juventas, you're definitely not the first to consider making a vacation out of it. I've been mulling for a while over the best graticule to try it in. I agree with Relet that it should be acceptable to reach one geohash per day, not restricted to a single graticule. I would, however, feel that the spirit of the achievement had been somewhat slighted if the person drove several hundred miles each day just to get to the easiest geohash, instead of slogging through woods and swamps and up mountains. But it would still be a glorious vacation. Pick a [starting] graticule and a date and we'll give it a go. -Robyn 03:54, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Well, here's how I see it: You are not restricted to a single graticule, and you have to launch at least one expedition per day. Coordinates do not have to be reached. This makes the achievement less about strict guidelines and more about camping and dedicating the time. If you really spend a week geohashing without going home and give a full effort, (and have seven entertaining writeups), this achievement is yours. I am very strongly considering doing this option for my spring break. I would start on Sunday, March 1st and finish on the 7th. I will keep you guys updated... --Woodveil 04:39, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

My opinion - An attempt must be made to reach the coordinates. If you fail by mother nature or private property, camp nearby. Thus the spirit of the achievement is maintained. I think we need to get that geohash SMS up and running, though - otherwise you have to return to a nearby internet access 4 days out of 7. --Thomcat 06:11, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

I've already agreed below, but now I'll play devil's advocate. Can I do the endurance geohash in a graticule that has only the tiniest tip on the shore, and just camp on that beach for a week? Can I do it by driving to the closest approach to each one by road and saying that it was too hard to go through the bush? Probably yes, we just accept that there will be different levels of awesomeness in doing this achievement, as there are in all geohashes. I was thinking of doing an endurancce geohash in ... nah, I won't give it away. -Robyn 06:34, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

That improves the achievement, and discourages trespassing when day six comes up and it's in a frigging military encampment. We should edit the achievement page to make it clearer what camping is required. Are we allowing wussy camping with an RV? Are we allowing motor vehicles at all for this achievement? Can you check into a motel if the geohash is in an urban area where camping is prohibited? -Robyn 05:16, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

This achievement is both exciting and difficult to define. We seem to agree with the spirit of it however. Something to keep in mind, the participant will have the whole day between hashes. I bring this up for two reasons. Strict rules would have to be created for where you are allowed to go and what you can do. And on the positive side, if the coordinates are indeed blocked by nature or property, you have lots of time to scout around.

We could define the "camp out" area as a radius x kms from the coordinates, and if blocked, x kms from the closest reachable point. If there is a place to stay (hotel, b&b, a barn, etc) within the radius, you could stay there. It wouldn't always be glorious--in urban areas without an accommodation, you would be required to do exactly what the homeless are forced to do.

What kind of proof of closest reachable point should be supplied? -Robyn 02:56, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

If it's a weekend, you should be able to camp either at the geohash, or at some reasonable place en route to the next day's geohash. -Robyn 02:56, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

So, back to the time in between. No going home and such. What about food? Vehicles or bikes would no doubt be needed. Stay out of all buildings (besides your accommodation)? RVs... I suppose, but they won't help when there's no road within your radius. Lastly, perhaps we could consider a different value of days? Say 3 or 5, but only as a minimum required for any claim of the achievement. Juventas 08:40, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

I'd vote for an endurance consolation prize "wimped out after only X days geohashing without returning home".

If you're geohashing in a graticule that contains neither roads nor a source of food, then (a) you are seriously hardcore and (b) you have committed to bringing a week's worth of food. You can however cache some of it at a centrally accessible location. -Robyn 04:56, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

What we seem to have agreed on

Delete and explain if you don't agree with a point below.

• You don't have to reach all seven points, just get as close as reasonably possible.
• All seven geohash attempts need not be in the same graticule.
• The accommodation rules are not as strict as the Camping Geohash, permitting any accommodation within whatever we decide the scope is.

Ribbon Image

File:Endurance Ribbon2.jpg

I thought that this achievement could use a higher quality ribbon image. I made this, what do you think?

* I'm totally in favour of a higher quality ribbon image, which yours is. I like the effect of the tree going outside the border. I made the existing one with a touchpad in MSPaint. My concern is that the "guy at a campsite with a laptop" is lost at the 44 px scale of the ribbon (shown below). Yours looks smaller than the original because you didn't crop the image down to the edge of the picture, but I think even if you did, guy with laptop would still be a scribble at that scale. Can you keep some of the beautiful trees and make laptop guy more visible? -Robyn 02:18, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

44px

* P.S. Keep this picture to be on the page, but find something more iconic for the ribbon.

Is that better? --Woodveil 04:40, 22 February 2009 (UTC)