Talk:Creating a Graticule Page
"If the neighbouring graticules have names, include them. If not, you can leave them blank or link to the appropriate ocean." -> What about linking to a coordinate number page like "38, -124". This page could either be redirected to the ocean or created like this: Page name="Pacific Ocean 38 -124", content="This graticule is at 38 -124 and contains 100% water." and Category:Pacific Ocean. What I mean is, if every ocean graticule is linked directly to that ocean, it will be difficult to order them and to note any water or air geohashes done in that graticule. (Imagine a geohashing pilot doing New York-London, if he chooses his path well he can do 50 middle-of-the-ocean hashpoints in one day and his flight might only take 1 minute longer). Danatar 01:25, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
- Pure water graticules have been pretty much ignored so far, but that's not to say that someone might not ocean geohash in the future. An ocean graticule naming scheme is definitely beyond the scope of the "creating a graticule" page so I won't expand on that here. I'll remove the suggestion to link to the ocean, just in case a lot of people doing that made trouble later. -Robyn 01:36, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
Sorry for such a strange question... Can I create a page for a graticule that is not my own? A lot of land graticules in Russia (even European Russia) are missing pages and/or names, and I can tell for certain that some of them (...on second thought, make this "almost all of them", minus possibly these north of 63) do contain populated places (though finding the most populated one would probably be tricky... then again I could look up whether some are district centers or somesuch). --January First-of-May 10:04, 28 September 2012 (EDT)
- Of course you can. Indeed, many of the graticules so far have been named by people who don't live there. Please do make some effort to name the graticule correctly, after the most populous place (that isn't right on a border). (This will probably mean putting in more work than just glancing at the Google map view for that area.) If you put your list of names on the appropriate page from Category:All graticules (which will be All graticules/Eurasia for Russian graticules, then it should be possible to just provide the names, and leave the actual creation of the graticule pages up to User:ReletBot. Incidentally, you might also like to create your own user page while you're here. :-) — Benjw {talk} 10:16, 28 September 2012 (EDT)
- Well, for most of these, "glancing on the Google map view" won't do anything, as there's not a single place visible except at really close zooms :-) I tried glancing on the Yandex map view (which gave me, e.g., Kuzema, Russia for 65,34 - later checked on other sources to be correct), but it didn't always help, either: e.g. 59,36 has literally hundreds of villages, but no obvious "major" cities, and for all I know the most populous place could be any of these hundreds of villages. Is there any realistic way to do it? (Geonames maybe?)
Oh, and maybe I could start a special page with my suggestions for graticule names (probably a subpage of my user page... if I manage to create the latter anyway) and if nobody replies to the contrary over October I'd put them as official names on the respective page? This could help my problem with naming 42,28 as well... assuming, of course, that it wasn't supposed to stay unnamed (which isn't too unlikely - the closest unnamed graticules are in Africa, and seem to have even less land than this one). --January First-of-May 14:13, 28 September 2012 (EDT)
- Well, for most of these, "glancing on the Google map view" won't do anything, as there's not a single place visible except at really close zooms :-) I tried glancing on the Yandex map view (which gave me, e.g., Kuzema, Russia for 65,34 - later checked on other sources to be correct), but it didn't always help, either: e.g. 59,36 has literally hundreds of villages, but no obvious "major" cities, and for all I know the most populous place could be any of these hundreds of villages. Is there any realistic way to do it? (Geonames maybe?)
- Just be sensible about it. :-) If there are hundreds of villages and no major town, pick one which is most representative of the are -- perhaps because it is an administrative centre, or because it shares a name with some landmark, or is simply right in the centre of the graticule. In some places where there is no population (bits of Canada and Australia, for example) graticules have been named after landmarks such as hills or creeks. 42,28 is a tricky one as it contains only a very small piece of land, and we have no geohashers who are from that area, so it's been left until someone with more local knowledge comes along to name it. But there are no graticules which are supposed to stay unnamed. Eventually all 64,800 of them will be! Good luck in your task, and well done for volunteering. If I can help at all, please do let me know. — Benjw {talk} 00:46, 29 September 2012 (EDT)
- Okay, I've created a page for my suggestions here. Will update it when I manage to think of decent names for some other graticules; but so far it's just these three :-) Comments (and suggestions) welcome on that page (or its talk page of course). --January First-of-May 14:05, 29 September 2012 (EDT)
