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I don't think this exists anywhere, by no means is it a complete list, i hope its in the spirit of geohashing. [[user:zorg|zorg]]
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This page was getting crowded with suggestions that have already been implemented. I've deleted/condensed a lot of old talk so that we can FIND the new talk. If I deleted something you were attached to, you know where the history tab is. -[[User:Robyn|Robyn]] 15:38, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
  
==Award Icons?==
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==Award Icons==
It might be nice for someone (not me, I leave for Paris in 12 hours) to make some small icons representing the awards, which users could, say, post on their user page after having completed each. Any takers?
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[[User:Matt|Matt]] suggested icons. DONE.  
[[User:Matt|Matt]] 14:27, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
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Discussion of various now-implemented icons and templates deleted.
 
 
:Oh, definitely. Preferably small icons that could be put on the page for the specific hash,next to everyone who's been around. Might have a look at it next week if no one else bothers with it, got another GH related challenge to work on tomorrow. [[User:Nazgjunk|Nazgjunk]] 21:08, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
 
 
 
:: I almost made a page for each individual Geohash achievement, where there can be a list of people who have gotten it. I'll chuck that up, and time giving, will add an icon. I'll make them all at the same time so they're the same style though (better to be xkcd style right?) (about halfway through this, but i can't think of a good way to draw public transport geohash) --[[user:zorg|zorg]]
 
 
 
::: I converted the land (standard) icon into an vector format image (in order to print poxel-free geohash-signs). Uploading SVG is disabled, but you can find it [http://hermidownloads.craqstar.de/temp/geohashing_logo.svg here] --[[user:Hermann|Hermann]] 16:20, 27 May 2008
 
 
 
:: I uploaded the water icon, feedback anyone? --[[User:Zorg|Zorg]] 04:59, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 
 
 
:: Now the "going deep" one. This is great procrastination guys. --[[User:Zorg|Zorg]] 05:19, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 
 
 
::: Those are great, man!  I particularly like the underground one!  Could the public transit one maybe have two busses going opposite directions with two GeoHashers high-fiving out the window? ...or even someone sitting in a plane? [[User:AshleyMorton|AshleyMorton]] 05:42, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 
 
 
:::: Thanks!! :) Hehe the highfive one is cool, i'll make the sign on the bus be coordinates, instead of a location name aswell :D Thanks! --[[User:Zorg|Zorg]] 05:51, 23 May 2008 (UTC) ... just uploaded the couch potato one :) --[[User:Zorg|Zorg]] 07:21, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 
 
 
:Wow! I suggest the idea, go off the grid for ten days, and come back to find it implemented! Thanks, guys. I'll be working on organizing the achievements section and fleshing out the missing pages and icons over the next few weeks. Anyone up for compass icons for the farthest north/south/east/west geohashes?    [[User:Matt|Matt]] 15:20, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 
 
 
:I drew an Icon for the [[Bicycle Geohash]] Achievement: [[:Image:Bikegeohash.png]]. Gosh, I'll become a famous artist one day. --[[User:Hermann|Hermann]] 10:50, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 
 
 
[[User:Widdershins|Widdershins]] 00:29, 26 May 2008 (UTC) - The next obvious step is to use these icon images in '''templates intended for people's user profiles.''' I have made the templates for {{tl|mnimb geohash}}, {{tl|land geohash}}, {{tl|water geohash}}, {{tl|goingdeep geohash}}, {{tl|twister geohash}}, {{tl|snowman geohash}}, and {{tl|goingup geohash}} (and now the {{tl|mnb geohash}}). I also added the Origin Geohash achievement and corresponding template {{tl|origin geohash}}. Ideally, we should have the icons mentioned above to cover all of these. So please, get to work ''':D'''
 
 
 
:These templates are great. How are you creating these? I want to make one for the [[Police Geohash]]. -- [[User:Jebobek|Jon]]
 
  
 
== Proof ==
 
== Proof ==
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Proof criteria determined.
  
How do you submit the proof? Post it on this site? <br>
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If the author of an achievement wants to limit it, they can. If not, not.  It's all pretty-much honor system, anyway.  [[User:Ted|Ted]] 02:32, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
and how do you do that with the public transit version.... <br>
 
And.... does it count for every single day or are the saterday meetings the only ones allowed? :) (Come to think of it, how can you be at exactly 4pm at a pub. transit location? :P)
 
--[[User:Evo--|Evo--]] 22:42, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
 
  
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==Organization of Achievements Page==
  
:: I envisioned that you would post it on your talk (make that your kind of 'profile' page), along side a photo. Achievements can count for any day of the week. (Hey maybe we could have Monday GeoHash.... Tuesday Geohash... ect ). And proof isn't always necessary, it'd be most of a personal achievement Really this should have a website more complicated than a wiki, with profiles and stats n whatnot. So we can compete for Geohasher of the month/week/year. [[user:zorg|zorg]]
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Page reorganized a couple of times as the list grew.
  
: For the public transit version, I pictured a photo of a watch and a GPS doohickey, your smiling face, and a background that is clearly the inside of a bus.  But really, I'm not going to check. [[User:AshleyMorton|AshleyMorton]] 23:08, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
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If you are going to add an achievement add some explanation of what you mean, and create a page. [[User:Evil Monkey|Evil Monkey]] 11:35, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
  
:: I added a proof section to the page, Is watch, location & you is enough? <br>
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If you're not sure if your idea is a good one, suggest it here first for comment, then if people like it, add it appropriately.
::Also I realise this means nobody has won a Geohash award yet :/ [[user:zorg|zorg]]
 
  
: And for time zone challenged locations (where it is physically impossible for me to get to a weekday geohash without a time machine), are we allowed to show time proof of the next day, or should we set our watches to a foreign time zone? --[[User:Phire|Phire]] 04:41, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
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== Ideas ==
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Check to see if your idea has already been suggested, implemented, rejected or ignored.
  
::I'm in melbourne, so I understand your worry, but if you guys decide to all use the previous days DOW opening, if thats what gets decided then you can still get achievements. I think we've all got to just trust everyone to claim these only when they have earnt them, if you want to fake it and earn an achievement you didn't get.... well, meh. So totally go ahead and take photos of whatever you decide to do. Thats my opinion. But don't go to mondays geohash on like... friday. That wouldn't count. --[[User:Zorg|Zorg]] 04:54, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
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Seems kinda silly to me to have an ''award'' for every single mildly interesting situation that might happen during a geohash. Looking at the list below, I think perhaps Double Geohash is the only one worth keeping, maybe not even that one (no offense to whoever came up with them). What's the point of having five hundred achievements? Keep it simple. --[[User:Joel|Joel]] 20:13, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
  
: It seems to me y'all are over-thinking thisIt's A Good Thing that some people will have "loose" ethics around their proof and others will say "only <foo> counts" -- it's all the more community! If the author of an achievement wants to limit it, they can.  If not, notIt's all pretty-much honor system, anyway; it's not as if anyone's going to get a celebrity endorsement for having the most geohashing awards, or anything :)  By way of example, I loosened the "on the spot" criteria for [[Air_Geohash|Air Geohash]] to account for the fact that it's pretty darned near impossible to hit an exact spot within a meter in an airplane.  [[User:Ted|Ted]] 02:32, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
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:I disagree, at least for nowLet's let this evolve in "brainstorming" mode, and let it self-organize for a while. After some time has passed, we can see how things are shaping up and then present ideas for organizationFor now, though, I'd hate to quash anyone's creative muse just because someone else thinks it's too sillyHeck, it '''is''' the Spontaneous Adventure Generator, after all, and a silly-grin is part of the proof-photo requirement...! [[User:Ted|Ted]] 02:28, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
  
I wanted to add a [[Blind Geohash]] achievement, for getting to the exact place without a GPS unit, but still proving you're in the right place. [[User:Jevanyn|Jevanyn]] 10 June 2008
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::This will probably be driven by a handful of geohashers who really push the envelope, not just us thinking of stuff to try. [[User:Jevanyn|Jevanyn]] 17:07, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
  
==Community==
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No matter how many awards you have it will still be clear that the people who parachuted onto the geohash seriously outcool the people who wrote a postcard at the geohash, but it's all fun.
I added a community achievements section. Also, a achievements category. zorg
 
  
==Two Different Kinds of Achievements==
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===Implemented Suggestions===
 
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*Double Geohash - reaching two in one day - [[Multihash]]
I was in the IRC and someone suggested a 'highest geohash' achievement. Should achievements for which only one perosn can hold them at a time have a seperate section, or be on this page aswell? (we also came up with alot of different ideas, eg - Most Precarious, Sexiest (Strip Club), Most Inconvineint, Most Unlikely (Randalls House) so there would definitely be a fair few things people could try and go for. What do you think? Can you think of anymore ideas for that section? --[[User:Zorg|Zorg]] 08:03, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
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*Blind Geohash]] achievement, for getting to the exact place without a GPS unit - [[No Batteries Geohash]]
 
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*International Geohash - go to a different country (easiest for people in say 43, -79) - [[Border geohash]]
: Sure, the more the merrier - the only thing would be that if we end up with a lot, we'll have to find a way to format this page a bit better. One aspect of that formatting would be that we could put the "high prestige" (Most Successful GeoHashes, Largest Meetup to Date, ...) and the "gateway", easy to get, ones (Land GeoHash, maybe one or two more) at the top, because, really, the rest are just displays of our own weird senses of humour, not real awards. [[User:AshleyMorton|AshleyMorton]] 10:07, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
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*Martyr - injured reaching a geohash  - [[Trail of Blood]]
 
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*V.I.P - geohash in a members-only or pay-to-enter location - [[Admit One Geohash]]
:: I made a massive change to the way the page is organised, but I think it was neccessary because the page was getting huge. Now we can have HEAPS of achievements in the one place :) --[[User:Zorg|Zorg]] 01:21, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
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*[[Restricted Area Geohash]] - legitimate access to restricted area
 
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*[[Holy Hash]] achievement, when geohashers arrive at coordinates and find a place of worship?
We need a Rick Astley Achievement. In Denver we played and sang Never Gonna Give you Up in the woods.
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*[[Golf Geohash]] - on golf course
 
 
Repeating my thoughts from below...Seems kinda silly to me to have an award for every single mildly interesting situation that might happen during a geohash. For example, "do Z while at a geohash" is not really enough to need an award. Let's keep it simple. --[[User:Joel|Joel]] 20:21, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Youngest / Oldest / etc ==
 
 
 
So, a [http://flickr.com/photos/navratil/2519180999/in/set-72157605237620605/ ten-month old] geohasher scouted the [[2008-05-24_37_-121|37, -121]] spot with me today.  Can he claim youngest geohasher?  And, for that matter, anyone want to claim eldest?  --[[User:Tapin|Tapin]] 05:37, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Time sensitive awards... ==
 
 
 
How about awards for being at the geohash location at midnight say, or at sunrise/sunset?
 
 
 
== Listifying ==
 
 
 
I've listified much of the page. Perhaps there should be some slight guidelines that if you are going to add an achievement add some explanation of what you mean, and create a page. [[User:Evil Monkey|Evil Monkey]] 11:35, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Ideas ==
 
  
Seems kinda silly to me to have an ''award'' for every single mildly interesting situation that might happen during a geohash. Looking at the list below, I think perhaps Double Geohash is the only one worth keeping, maybe not even that one (no offense to whoever came up with them). What's the point of having five hundred achievements? Keep it simple. --[[User:Joel|Joel]] 20:13, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
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===Not Implemented===
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Summary of ideas that have been suggested and then ignored or just not yet implemented.
  
*Double Geohash - reaching two in one day - [[Multihash]]
 
*International Geohash - go to a different country  (easiest for people in say 43, -79) - [[Border geohash]]
 
*Martyr - injured reaching a geohash (double points if combined with Couch Potato or Cubicle) - [[Trail of Blood]]
 
*V.I.P - geohash in a members-only or pay-to-enter location - - [[Admit One Geohash]]
 
 
*Passing Through - went through geohash but couldn't stay. Examples include going through it on a train, plane, or chased by wild animals  
 
*Passing Through - went through geohash but couldn't stay. Examples include going through it on a train, plane, or chased by wild animals  
 
*Party Crasher - Interrupted a social event (i.e. wedding) - Good idea
 
*Party Crasher - Interrupted a social event (i.e. wedding) - Good idea
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*Cross Country Geohash - Travel from point A to B at the rate of one Lat/Lon quadrant a day, reaching the respective Geohash each day.
 
*Cross Country Geohash - Travel from point A to B at the rate of one Lat/Lon quadrant a day, reaching the respective Geohash each day.
 
*Wedding Geohash - Get married at the geohash. Wouldn't that be hilarious?  Issue invitations that explain the algorithm, but no one knows exactly where it will be until the day of. You might have to rent a boat, even a helicopter. Obviously I'm not serious.
 
*Wedding Geohash - Get married at the geohash. Wouldn't that be hilarious?  Issue invitations that explain the algorithm, but no one knows exactly where it will be until the day of. You might have to rent a boat, even a helicopter. Obviously I'm not serious.
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*Close but No Cigar / Close Enough for Government Work consolation -- You get within about 100m and decide you're "close enough" (I see a lot of these on weekday meetup pages
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*No "There" There consolation -- Your GPS can't decide if you've found the hashpoint or not
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*Midnight Madness Multihash -- special multihash for going to a geohash for Friday or Saturday), then at midnight travelling to the Saturday/Sunday geohash as quickly as possible.
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*Discover something of previously unknown historic importance / a new species / a UFO while geohashing.
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*Idol Geohash: meet a famous person, such as a band member or an actor.
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*"D20 Hash" or something of the like for role playing or a "Board but not bored Hash" for playing board games at the hash site.
  
: I disagree, at least for now.  Let's let this evolve in "brainstorming" mode, and let it self-organize for a while.  After some time has passed, we can see how things are shaping up and then present ideas for organization. For now, though, I'd hate to quash anyone's creative muse just because someone else thinks it's too silly.  Heck, it '''is''' the Spontaneous Adventure Generator, after all, and a silly-grin is part of the proof-photo requirement...!  [[User:Ted|Ted]] 02:28, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
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===Deleted, Merged, Rejected or Downgraded Achievements===
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Achievements that have been actively removed or rejected.
  
Double was the only one I was serious about really :P  --Geekthras
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I think it's not a bad idea to go through the list from time to time. You'll often come up with an idea which seems good enough for an achievement, and notice later that it's just not being accepted.
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-- [[User:Relet|Relet]] 00:25, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
  
:Some of the above have been adopted. A few more?
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I totally support deletion of the subjective achievements. -[[User:Robyn|Robyn]] 26 August 2008 (UTC)
:*Close but No Cigar / Close Enough for Government Work consolation -- You get within about 100m and decide you're "close enough" (I see a lot of these on weekday meetup pages
 
:*No "There" There consolation -- Your GPS can't decide if you've found the hashpoint or not
 
:*Midnight Madness Multihash -- special multihash for going to a geohash for Friday or Saturday), then at midnight travelling to the Saturday/Sunday geohash as quickly as possible.
 
:This will probably be driven by a handful of geohashers who really push the envelope, not just us thinking of stuff to try.
 
:::[[User:Jevanyn|Jevanyn]] 17:07, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 
  
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I support deletion of superfluous and unused achievements. [[User:Nemo|Nemo]] 13:43, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
  
:Discovery Achievements:
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* Strip Club Geohash - boring (probably unless you actually hit one). But then you could just create one of these for anything you visit.
:*Discover something of previously unknown historic importance.
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* Smoking Geohash - not actually difficult to achieve, and not that unusual that it could be called interesting.
:*Discover a new species while geohashing.
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* The underpants geohash which was merged with [[Geoflashing]]
:*Spot a UFO while geohashing.
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* The [[Easy Geohash]] which was degraded into a [term needed] (subjective achievement? I'd like to remove the term achievement).
They need creative titles though, correct me if these have already been suggested.
 
:::-[[User:itsonlyinsane|Tuki]]
 
 
 
As these are all highly unlikely and mainly for humour value, I suggest a single Discovery geohash, with these listed as examples, or Ranks (q.v. [[Air Geohash]]), rather than three separate never-used awards. -[[User:Robyn|Robyn]] 13:03, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 
:I see what you are saying and definitely agree.
 
:::-[[User:itsonlyinsane|Tuki]] 1:20, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
 
 
 
How about this:
 
Idol Geohash: meet a famous person, such as a band member or an actor.
 
 
 
I just put up a proposal for a [[Hashcard achievement]]. Comments are appreciated. --[[User:Ekorren|Ekorren]] 14:26, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Restricted Geohash ==
 
 
 
I would discourage having an award for a "restricted area" geohash, as it is clearly against the disclaimer {{Template:Disclaimer}} [[User:Scottkuma|Scottkuma]] 19:17, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
 
 
 
:I added the disclaimer to the page. Still, as long as the person has legal access (most likely a member of the military) this award is fair game.    [[User:Matt|Matt]] 15:20, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 
 
 
:My understanding of the R.A. achievement is that it is qualified with "...to which you have legal access."  So, for example, if you work on a Military base and the spot is on-base, or similar. [[User:Ted|Ted]] 15:42, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 
  
::When I wrote this achievement, I briefly considered adding a wink-and-nod reference to people trying this who don't have clearance, but decided to leave that out. We should definitely not be encouraging illegal activities. Being in the "I'm better than you" section, it would follow that only a person in posession of legit access to the site would be able to claim it. Thanks, Matt for putting the disclaimer on the page.
 
::The original idea came from a story told by my wife about one of her classes. She had an asshole professor who was only teaching because he had to. His main task was doing Important Research at a university-related off-campus lab accessible only by badge and he decided that he would set his office hours at that site, thereby eliminating the possibility that any students would show up. The Mrs just so happened to be working at that facility as part of a separate project, so she ''did'' have access and showed up with her homework one day. The prof did a doubletake, asked her how she got in. When she waved her badge, he smiled and gracefully helped her out with her questions. [[User:FunkyTuba|FunkyTuba]] 20:41, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 
  
:When I wrote my objection, I don't think that the clarification had  been made that you need valid, legal access to the site. Now that the requirement has been clearly noted, I withdraw my objection. -- [[User:Scottkuma|Scottkuma]] 16:03, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
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== Award Suggestions ==
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Recent suggestions still being debated. Make a subsection if you have lots to say about your suggestion, else short description below.
  
== Highlander Geohash Achievement? ==
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=== Highlander Geohash Achievement? ===
  
 
As a fencer, I may be biased in considering this idea mildly awesome. Further, there are definite safety, liability, and standardization concerns which need to be considered before it could be successfully implemented.
 
As a fencer, I may be biased in considering this idea mildly awesome. Further, there are definite safety, liability, and standardization concerns which need to be considered before it could be successfully implemented.
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I look forward to the day when graticule pages come complete with the names of local duelists, so as to facilitate travel for epic battles in far-away lands ^_^
 
I look forward to the day when graticule pages come complete with the names of local duelists, so as to facilitate travel for epic battles in far-away lands ^_^
  
Er... also how about a Holy Hash achievement, when geohashers arrive at coordinates and find a place of worship?
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===Short descriptions===
 
 
== Award Suggestion ==
 
 
 
In the event that a geohash coordinate ends up on a golf course, geohashers can/are required to play a round of golf on the course. If they can plan it so that they're playing the hole the coordinate's on at 4:00, they can get special mention? And a similar award for other sporting areas could work as well?
 
  
:Maybe that could be the '''Sporting''' achievement-- [[User:Scottkuma|Scottkuma]] 14:39, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
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*[[Hashcard achievement]]. Comments are appreciated. --[[User:Ekorren|Ekorren]] 14:26, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
  
I would like to suggest a Time-Travel Geohash Award.<br>
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*I would like to suggest a Time-Travel Geohash Award.<br>
 
If the coordinates fall in a "renaissance faire", or a historic re-creation town (like "Colonial Williamsburg").  But not for some place that just looks (or even is) outdated. -- [[User:m5rammy|m5rammy]] 8 June 2008
 
If the coordinates fall in a "renaissance faire", or a historic re-creation town (like "Colonial Williamsburg").  But not for some place that just looks (or even is) outdated. -- [[User:m5rammy|m5rammy]] 8 June 2008
  
 
:Actually, a time-travel geohash should be for going to a geohash site of some date in the past, preferably in period garb.  Since the algorithm is based on the Dow, how about BlackMonday, 1929? -- [[User:Jevanyn|Jevanyn]] 10 June 2008
 
:Actually, a time-travel geohash should be for going to a geohash site of some date in the past, preferably in period garb.  Since the algorithm is based on the Dow, how about BlackMonday, 1929? -- [[User:Jevanyn|Jevanyn]] 10 June 2008
  
This one's out there, but here goes: My friend coined the abbreviation "GHH" for GeoHasHing, also because GH is guitar hero. But what if the geohashers play guitar hero at the point? GHHGH! That should be an achievement for sure. Maybe if you're in the Golon Heights you could get it a bit easier. --[[User:MarkTraceur|MarkTraceur]]
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*This one's out there, but here goes: My friend coined the abbreviation "GHH" for GeoHasHing, also because GH is guitar hero. But what if the geohashers play guitar hero at the point? GHHGH! That should be an achievement for sure. Maybe if you're in the Golon Heights you could get it a bit easier. --[[User:MarkTraceur|MarkTraceur]]
 
 
I'm keen to re-suggest the 'Holy Hash, Batman' hash, for hashes falling on places of worship (this could be almost anything in this modern age :P). Mostly 'cause I just got one at a church, so I'm a little bias. I'm thinking using the pope picture from the ghostbusters strip. Anyone have any thoughts on the matter? -- [[User:UnwiseOwl|UnwiseOwl]] 02:24, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
 
: I wanted to create a Holy Hash achievement page for sacred places ever since I read your comment, but now I'm a little biased, too, since my [[2008-11-24_49_9|next expedition]] will be a Holy Hash. But I'm going to create it anyway this weekend. I'll use the Robin catchphrase for the ribbon image (I already have a setup in mind). --[[User:Ilpadre|Ilpadre]] 09:59, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
 
 
 
I suggest a "D20 Hash" or something of the like for role playing or a "Board but not bored Hash" for playing board games at the hash site. I'm trying to get our rpg group to go geohashing on Saturday and that would be fantastic :D. -- [[User:Baela|Baela]] 13:50, 4 December 2008
 
 
 
:Roleplaying is strongly encouraged when visiting a hash. See, for example, the Buccaneers achievement. I'm sure if you could organize a spontaneous LARP at the hash site, you'd get at least a place in the Hall of Amazingness, if not a custom achievement. We've become a little careful with creating achievements that have not yet been achieved - so go ahead, do something new, and your achievements will follow. :D -- [[User:relet|relet]] 22:47, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
 
 
 
:I guess you'll qualify for a medieval [[Déjà Vu Geohash]]. ;) --[[User:Ilpadre|Ilpadre]] 06:38, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
 
  
== Hash Counts ==
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== Tracking Awards ==
  
 
I visited the "Centurion" page only to sadly discover it's part of [[XKCD-100]]. Seems like we need some sort of Hash Counter and Saturday Hash Counter (or awards). I just hit my 5th hash (with only one Saturday meetup), and I'll keep going to 100, even if they aren't all Saturdays (or all at 4:00pm or ...)
 
I visited the "Centurion" page only to sadly discover it's part of [[XKCD-100]]. Seems like we need some sort of Hash Counter and Saturday Hash Counter (or awards). I just hit my 5th hash (with only one Saturday meetup), and I'll keep going to 100, even if they aren't all Saturdays (or all at 4:00pm or ...)
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: Recommend starting a user-page and putting your hash-participation in a section, there.  Then it should be a simple matter to demark 5, 10, 25, 50, etc...  [[User:Ted|Ted]] 21:44, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
 
: Recommend starting a user-page and putting your hash-participation in a section, there.  Then it should be a simple matter to demark 5, 10, 25, 50, etc...  [[User:Ted|Ted]] 21:44, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
 
Oh that's a good idea. I'll just keep them in chronological order.
 
 
== Awards and their Organization ==
 
I really like the awards, yet I understand the concerns of the people who don't want an award for every stupid thing you can do at a geohash. I think no matter how many awards you have it will still be clear that the people who parachuted onto the geohash seriously outcool the people who wrote a postcard at the geohash, but it's all fun. The only one I really frown on is the "Smoking" especially as the "and get away with it" implies that the person is suggesting that you smoke somewhere it is illegal to do so. What's next, the shoplifting, assault and arson geohashes?
 
 
I did as I threatened and reorganized the categories to better fit the awards that were in them. The only thing I nuked was the Freeway Geohash, which was basically the same as Speed Racer, and had no page, so I don't expect anyone loved it. I'm now working on making sure they all have pages and ribbons. - [[User:Robyn|Robyn]] 20:08, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 
 
== Proposed deletion of "achievements" ==
 
 
I would propose the following achievements for deletion (all of which don't have ribbons anyway), as I would like to flesh out the page a bit, keeping just the most interesting achievements (and those which have actually been achieved).
 
Please vote '''support''' or '''objection''' (or anything else), and voice your opinion. 
 
 
* Strip Club Geohash - boring (probably unless you actually hit one). But then you could just create one of these for anything you visit.
 
* Smoking Geohash - not actually difficult to achieve, and not that unusual that it could be called interesting.
 
* Underpants Geohash - We have Geoflashing already (and nobody went for this achievement yet). If you do it, do it right.
 
* All of the subjective achievements. I would rather suggest a separate page, or a set of categories, for this kind of valuation. It is interesting to see which might have been the easiest/hardest/most expensive/etc. geohashes, but I would not consider this an achievement.
 
 
I know that this is a somewhat repetitive discussion, but I think it's not a bad idea to go through the list from time to time. You'll often come up with an idea which seems good enough for an achievement, and notice later that it's just not being accepted.
 
-- [[User:Relet|Relet]] 00:25, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
 
 
I totally support deletion of the subjective achievements. Every time I try to do anything with them I wince. Who is going to claim them?  I though perhaps making them into non-superlatives, so you could claim a pretty, sexy, expensive or easy geohash anytime you wanted. Underpants could be made into a subcategory of geoflashing. I don't see that the stripclub is any worse than the pub, golf or any other specific thing found at a geohash. I never liked smoking. I'm the one that subverted it into "safe, legal control of fire." So I defend none of these achievements, and would be happy to see them go. -00:33, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
 
 
:: I support deletion of superfluous and unused achievements. [[User:Nemo|Nemo]] 13:43, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
 
 
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I've now removed the above. I've marked their pages for deletion, except for:
 
* The underpants geohash which was merged with [[Geoflashing]]
 
* The [[Easy Geohash]] which was degraded into a [term needed] (subjective achievement? I'd like to remove the term achievement).
 
-- [[User:Relet|Relet]] 14:38, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
 

Revision as of 15:38, 10 December 2008

This page was getting crowded with suggestions that have already been implemented. I've deleted/condensed a lot of old talk so that we can FIND the new talk. If I deleted something you were attached to, you know where the history tab is. -Robyn 15:38, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Award Icons

Matt suggested icons. DONE. Discussion of various now-implemented icons and templates deleted.

Proof

Proof criteria determined.

If the author of an achievement wants to limit it, they can. If not, not. It's all pretty-much honor system, anyway. Ted 02:32, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Organization of Achievements Page

Page reorganized a couple of times as the list grew.

If you are going to add an achievement add some explanation of what you mean, and create a page. Evil Monkey 11:35, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

If you're not sure if your idea is a good one, suggest it here first for comment, then if people like it, add it appropriately.

Ideas

Check to see if your idea has already been suggested, implemented, rejected or ignored.

Seems kinda silly to me to have an award for every single mildly interesting situation that might happen during a geohash. Looking at the list below, I think perhaps Double Geohash is the only one worth keeping, maybe not even that one (no offense to whoever came up with them). What's the point of having five hundred achievements? Keep it simple. --Joel 20:13, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

I disagree, at least for now. Let's let this evolve in "brainstorming" mode, and let it self-organize for a while. After some time has passed, we can see how things are shaping up and then present ideas for organization. For now, though, I'd hate to quash anyone's creative muse just because someone else thinks it's too silly. Heck, it is the Spontaneous Adventure Generator, after all, and a silly-grin is part of the proof-photo requirement...! Ted 02:28, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
This will probably be driven by a handful of geohashers who really push the envelope, not just us thinking of stuff to try. Jevanyn 17:07, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

No matter how many awards you have it will still be clear that the people who parachuted onto the geohash seriously outcool the people who wrote a postcard at the geohash, but it's all fun.

Implemented Suggestions

Not Implemented

Summary of ideas that have been suggested and then ignored or just not yet implemented.

  • Passing Through - went through geohash but couldn't stay. Examples include going through it on a train, plane, or chased by wild animals
  • Party Crasher - Interrupted a social event (i.e. wedding) - Good idea
  • Hammer Time - Reached geohash using the MC Hammer Slide
  • Tape Measure Geohash - Have a tape measure extending contest at the geohash
  • Cross Country Geohash - Travel from point A to B at the rate of one Lat/Lon quadrant a day, reaching the respective Geohash each day.
  • Wedding Geohash - Get married at the geohash. Wouldn't that be hilarious? Issue invitations that explain the algorithm, but no one knows exactly where it will be until the day of. You might have to rent a boat, even a helicopter. Obviously I'm not serious.
  • Close but No Cigar / Close Enough for Government Work consolation -- You get within about 100m and decide you're "close enough" (I see a lot of these on weekday meetup pages
  • No "There" There consolation -- Your GPS can't decide if you've found the hashpoint or not
  • Midnight Madness Multihash -- special multihash for going to a geohash for Friday or Saturday), then at midnight travelling to the Saturday/Sunday geohash as quickly as possible.
  • Discover something of previously unknown historic importance / a new species / a UFO while geohashing.
  • Idol Geohash: meet a famous person, such as a band member or an actor.
  • "D20 Hash" or something of the like for role playing or a "Board but not bored Hash" for playing board games at the hash site.

Deleted, Merged, Rejected or Downgraded Achievements

Achievements that have been actively removed or rejected.

I think it's not a bad idea to go through the list from time to time. You'll often come up with an idea which seems good enough for an achievement, and notice later that it's just not being accepted. -- Relet 00:25, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

I totally support deletion of the subjective achievements. -Robyn 26 August 2008 (UTC)

I support deletion of superfluous and unused achievements. Nemo 13:43, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

  • Strip Club Geohash - boring (probably unless you actually hit one). But then you could just create one of these for anything you visit.
  • Smoking Geohash - not actually difficult to achieve, and not that unusual that it could be called interesting.
  • The underpants geohash which was merged with Geoflashing
  • The Easy Geohash which was degraded into a [term needed] (subjective achievement? I'd like to remove the term achievement).


Award Suggestions

Recent suggestions still being debated. Make a subsection if you have lots to say about your suggestion, else short description below.

Highlander Geohash Achievement?

As a fencer, I may be biased in considering this idea mildly awesome. Further, there are definite safety, liability, and standardization concerns which need to be considered before it could be successfully implemented.

Off the top of my head: (no pun intended)

-Safety concerns being most important, it should go without saying that only practice weapons are permitted. Standard padded practice attire (or acceptable analogues thereof) and facemasks for both participants are also a necessity. There are some concerns specific to fencing outdoors like weather conditions, ground conditions, heat stroke in the warmer climates, and public safety which must also be considered. Further, it stands to reason that attempting to attain a Highlander achievement would increase the likelihood of the geohashers involved satisfying the requirements necessary for a Police achievement. Thus, it would behoove any such geohashers to know their rights beforehand, and conduct themselves with the dignity, honor, and respect that their noble schools have no doubt instilled in them. Note, however, that it is always unwise to challenge an officer of the law to any duel or fencing contest in response to a perceived lack of the above mentioned virtues on their part.

-Different weapons and scoring techniques would make competition between foil and sabre practitioners (for example) difficult to judge. This problem would only be compounded by the inclusion of Kendo or other fencing traditions, yet their inclusion is essential to a true replication of highlander conditions. Possible solutions might be standardized rules of engagement, inclusion of other geohashers as arbiters, or agreement on specific terms before the contest. A combination of these solutions may be ideal.

-Really, anybody who bouts at geohash coordinates deserves an achievement, yet there can be only one. Perhaps there might be one achievement ribbon for the victor, along with a slightly less cephalic ribbon for the less fortunate participant?

-Depending on the size and population density of the naval craft being used as a venue, it may be inappropriate, unsafe, or illegal to attempt to earn both the Water achievement and the Highlander achievement in one go. That said, given the existence of a Restricted Area achievement, a "Swashbuckling" achievement for the few pirates who have the means (Oil drill workers? Cruise ship crew? Messiahs?) seems to be indicated.

I look forward to the day when graticule pages come complete with the names of local duelists, so as to facilitate travel for epic battles in far-away lands ^_^

Short descriptions

  • I would like to suggest a Time-Travel Geohash Award.

If the coordinates fall in a "renaissance faire", or a historic re-creation town (like "Colonial Williamsburg"). But not for some place that just looks (or even is) outdated. -- m5rammy 8 June 2008

Actually, a time-travel geohash should be for going to a geohash site of some date in the past, preferably in period garb. Since the algorithm is based on the Dow, how about BlackMonday, 1929? -- Jevanyn 10 June 2008
  • This one's out there, but here goes: My friend coined the abbreviation "GHH" for GeoHasHing, also because GH is guitar hero. But what if the geohashers play guitar hero at the point? GHHGH! That should be an achievement for sure. Maybe if you're in the Golon Heights you could get it a bit easier. --MarkTraceur

Tracking Awards

I visited the "Centurion" page only to sadly discover it's part of XKCD-100. Seems like we need some sort of Hash Counter and Saturday Hash Counter (or awards). I just hit my 5th hash (with only one Saturday meetup), and I'll keep going to 100, even if they aren't all Saturdays (or all at 4:00pm or ...) Thomcat 13 June 2008

I agree. They are getting hard to count, and I've only attempted 14.

Recommend starting a user-page and putting your hash-participation in a section, there. Then it should be a simple matter to demark 5, 10, 25, 50, etc... Ted 21:44, 25 July 2008 (UTC)