Talk:Calendar girl achievement

An option would be 1 month = 1 achievement = 1 great photo of said achievement. -- relet 11:20, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Plural of Miss

In society calendars (as opposed to pin up calendars) the plural of miss is Misses, often "The Misses" as in the "The Misses Davenport-Snootyface attended the ball with their father, where they were introduced to the Archduke of Wigglybottom." -Robyn 15:46, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Geek holidays

To be included in the calendar (?):

May the 4th be with you (YYYY-05-04)
Geohashing Day (YYYY-05-21)
Mouseover Day (2010-05-22)
Towel Day and Geek Pride Day (YYYY-05-25)
Pi Day (YYYY-03-14)
Pi Approximation Day (YYYY-07-22)
Talk like a Pirate day (YYYY-09-19)
Festivus (YYYY-12-23)
System Administrator Appreciation Day (2010-07-30)
?

Praise

Where's all the talk? This calendar is awesome! The style of humor is XKCD-quality. Congratulations to all involved. Juventas 05:56, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Printing and ring binding

Yes. So very very yes. Oui. Ja. This needs to happen. I vote for a 2010+Smarch Calendar. Just add January 2011 (with 32 days for extra hilarity) and call it smarch! I say put Dawidi as Mrs. Smarch (catchy!) and Ilpadre's lovley artwork on the cover. Also, if possible, I say add Owl's "Pitch" as sort of an introduction.

About the ordering, I think that sounds perfect, if you know where to get it done. I myself will want at least 5 coppies, so we may even need to order more. I also volunteer to headup the Vancouver/Pasific coast/North America distribution and would possibly be willing to finance that part of the project. Thepiguy 07:44, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Great. :) I'm pretty open to the smarch or no smarch question, but I think that we certainly should aim for 2010 for the ring-bound version. There's just some more organization to be done (compiling a list of potential buyers, finding a printer, etc.) and I think it's realistic to have it ready before the holiday season. Anyone in need for a great gift to your family? Also, I would suggest to create an equal price for all continents, distributing the estimated shipping costs on all buyers. Shouldn't be that much for printed goods anyway.

That said, me and myself will be on holidays soon. Please do self-organize or organize the others. I have the photos and shall provide you with whatever calendar version you have agreed on by end of September latest. :D -- relet 09:28, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

About the printer, I've tried looking around, but all the places I've found are very restrictive. The let you upload 13 pictures (12+cover), pick a background, and do nothing else. I was hoping our calendar would be a little more unique than that (Introduction page and possible a 32 day Smarch). Do you know of anywhere that will let you do that? If not, I think all of the decisions are made.

As for my distribution "plan"... I didn't really have one beyond me having a large stack of calendars. Vancouver would be simple, but only because most of us know each other anyways. The rest would have to be mailed out individually, which might make it difficult to get out for the holidays (read:impossible, I don't get home until the 22nd). It might just be better to mail them to each individual user from here. I could still take care of that I think. Thepiguy 16:51, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Elbie is a typography nerd

I'm curious, are there other options for the typeface on the calendar parts? I can't say I'm a fan of pseudohandwriting typefaces. Would it be easy to change that to the same one used for the quotes? - Elbie 03:44, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Certainly. :) Unless anyone objects...? -- relet 10:28, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Doesn't look like anybody does (?). - Elbie 16:57, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Me Want!

Please add yourself to the list if you would buy one or more calendars. It'll be 2010, possibly with smarch. I currently estimate some 5 Euros + shipping based on a batch of 50 copies, but the mileage may vary slightly. This will help us decide when to give the calendar to the printer and how many to order.

Where did you find this estimate? Every site I have found put them around $19 each. Anyways, I think its best if we make our order soon; the new year is fast approaching! Thepiguy 23:19, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

print24.de -- relet 00:02, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

I don't mean to alarm you, but that website seems to be written in a strange foreign language. So how do we get this thing rolling? Thepiguy 09:46, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

PANIC! Well, basically, when we divide the price for 50 copies by 30 people (I can still talk to the printing guys if they could reduce the batch size), we end up at a price of between 5.60 Euros (13 pages, cover only) to 6.90 (15 pages, cover, intro and smarch) plus shipping and transaction fees. A4 portrait, 170g/m², white spiral binding, no cellophaned cover sheet. You can play with the options here. If no one else volunteers, I could advance the money to get them printed, and offer to be reimbursed via either Paypal or wire. -- relet 12:19, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

How about we go with Dawidi cover, ilpadre artwork/intro page and no smarch. I think that works out well with everyones comments. If you get the quote and handle the German parts, I think I can front the monies. Let me know. Thepiguy 19:11, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Okely-dokely. I've updated the pages with a neutral font, and added an intro page. It's all the PDF's they want. The quote is 194.16 Euros for 14 pages (times 50, no less) including shipping to Germany. If you think you can handle the forms, just go to print24.de, select "kalender" in the first box, "14 Blätter" in the fourth, and press the big blue button. They will want to know an address and where to get your money next. ;) If you're unsure ask in the channel. There are always Germans around, aren't there? Or send me an email with any questions. The calendars should ship until December first, leaving three weeks to get them distributed to selected hashpoints all over the world. -- relet 19:07, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

Pieces	User	Comments (smarch or no smarch, price limits, other requests)
	Europe
4	lyx	prefer dawidi as cover, artwork on introduction page
1	Juventas	possibly more depending on Pi's distribution plan
2	Danatar	Maybe 1-2 more
5	Pi	See above.
2	the ru
	UK
1	Macronencer	After some prevarication (I was just wondering how to explain this and all its myriad levels of meaning to my parents when they visit, but what the hell) I'm in for a copy.
1	Sermoa	Though you could probably send mine together with Macronencer's to save on postage. We geohash together frequently enough.
4	danheller	That's my Christmas presents sorted...
	Pacific Northwest
1	Aperfectring	Also neutral about Smarch, and I think we have a PacNW consensus to send them to Vancouver, as a catalyst for invoking a PacNW meetup in the Vancouver area.
2	Robyn	The enthusiasm with which some people embraced the theme limits whom I can give them to. Next year lets dispense with the naturism and just get the finest geohashing shots we can take. I'm equally happy with and without Smarch. I had to google to find out what it was.
2	Thomcat	As one of those whose enthusiasm has surely limited Robyn's giving ability, I feel I must order just as many. If no other Seattle/Portland orders, I'm fine with bundling mine in the Vancouver order. I must meet Pi someday!
1	Jim	Mine could also go to Vancouver. It will eventually make it to me. I, too, am neutral about Smarch.
	Northeast USA
1	Phyzome	Just one for me, I think. Smarch-apathetic, fine with the 6+2 euro pricing.
	Australia
3	UnwiseOwl	I'd love a copy for me and one for my hashing buddies. Since the silly thing was my idea I guess I should get some :D.
3	myka	I was meaning to get some, so yeah.
33	Running total

Me Got!

The calendars are superb! Good work with the photos. I love the pull quotes. It should be noted for North Americans that while this calendar is in English, the weeks start on Monday, in the European style. (Europeans may be surprised to learn that for anglos the week starts on Sunday and ends on Saturday. Yes, this is bizarre and splits the weekend in half, but it's what we're used to). -Robyn 06:07, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Btw, the german word for wednesday is Mittwoch = middle-week, which doesn't make much sense since it's day 3 instead of day 4.

Germany introduced the "week starts on monday" rule in 1976 - so this was even after I was born, and I can't remember any confusion about that. I think before that both versions were in use. Still, we didn't learn to know the old convention as "something old people might still use" but as "something americans do use", which means that people got used very fast to the new convention. You should totally follow that example (but changing your ridiculous date and time formats should still have priority :P ) --Ekorren 10:48, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Canadians don't use the ridiculous American date formats, except when stupid people buy American software and don't know how to change the defaults. Or the person who copied the American immigration form in a recent change to the Canadian one. Americans are alone in the world in thinking that the day should go in the middle. And you can see from the geohashing date format that smart Americans like Randall know better, too. Canadians introduced metric in 1976, but Imperial measurements are still something that old and young people do use. In many cases the words are entrenched culturally rather than as measurements. A footlong sandwich, a pair of 44DDs, three-inch heels -- they all have meanings that transcend mere measurement, even though I can more closely estimate the metric distances. -Robyn 17:48, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

It was not my intention to attack any particular group or country. I wasn't aware that Canada does not use the US date format, though. I'm cursing about the US date format on a daily base, since I'm forced to use it on a system which is meant and used globally but built by US programmers who simply didn't waste a single thought about internationalization, and also about the time, here basically the fact that the sequence 11AM - 12PM - 1PM is highly illogical.

About the time it may be an interesting fact that although german everyday use fully switched to 24 hours count in whatever is written, spoken language prefers the 12 hours count unless it's an exact time. Example: for an approximate meetup time, we write 16:00 and say 4, but a train departure at 15:24 wouldn't be called 3:24. There isn't an equivalent to AM and PM, but instead we add daytimes (morning, noon, afternoon, evening, night) if necessary. Which also means that the "which side does 12:00 belong to" problem doesn't occur - it's either 12 noon or 12 night. --Ekorren 18:24, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

I don't have a problem with using either the 24 hour and 12 hour clock. Most people here would not use the 24 hour clock in speech, unless they were police, military, pilots or being a little bit silly. I've always been bothered that 12 PM does not follow 11 PM. I understand that 12:00:01 is AM, but 12:00:00 should be PM. I like your way better. I don't think that having time wrap twice a day instead of once is incredibly illogical. The Babylonians were just so in love with 60 and 12, and twelve is the right number of divisions to easily discern a clock position just from the angles of the hands. It's quite beautiful, really, how finely we can convey time with just symbols. I saw a schedule or timetable once that just showed the clock position of the hands, and shaded the night hours as black clocks. It was perfectly understandable and you didn't even have to read the alphabet or numeric system in use. -Robyn 18:39, 8 February 2010 (UTC)