Talk:Subdivision geohash achievement

This is a proposal made on 2020-09-01. Please leave comments and suggestions below, indicating your thoughts on the proposal, including:

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For a while, I have been thinking that this achievement is missing and should be added. I'm not the first one to think about it though. Jevanyn is tracking the progress on which Counties of New Jersey he has reached, and OtherJack awarded himself the 5 Boro Achievement (via a Gratuitous ribbon) for visiting Geohashes in all 5 boroughs of New York. There may be more Geohashers who are tracking their process too that I forgot to mention here. I have been tracking my own progress too.

What do you think? Is this a worthy achievement? --Fippe (talk) 11:10, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

Another example that comes to mind is Michael5000's map of counties in Oregon and Washington. I actually considered a similar idea for the twelve Administrative Okrugs of Moscow, though never formulated it on my (rudimentary) user page. --January First-of-May (talk) 12:35, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

Forgot to mention it explicitly: Support. --January First-of-May (talk) 09:12, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

Support! So for me it would be 50 states in my nation (or 48 contiguous), 33 counties in my state, 33 census-designated places in my county (wikipedia:Santa_Fe_County,_New_Mexico#Communities)... Arlo (talk) 15:28, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

Support. Here in the UK, this could be seen as "all nations in the union" (probably easiest, but involves the most travel distance including at least one sea crossing!), "all counties in a country/principality" (easier in Wales or Northern Ireland than in England or Scotland, but still a serious challenge), "all parishes in a county" (a nightmare!), or "all boroughs in Greater London" (also super challenging - the UK hasn't had "boroughs" outside London since 1974, and the old boroughs outside of the capital aren't really suitable as there was usually only one covering in any given city). We also have some unusual divisions that might count: "all three Ridings of Yorkshire" or "each of the three Parts of Lindsey" (Lincolnshire), perhaps?

I wonder if the achievement ought to stipulate that there must be _at least three_ divisions of the area that is being claimed? Visiting both (of only two) historic lathes of St Augustine is still challenging (they're small enough to see few hashpoints) but _way_ easier than any of the others I've mentioned. --Dan Q (talk) 06:13, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

I am biased because the only Subdivision Geohash I have ever completed are the 2 cities (Bremen and Bremerhaven) in the State of Bremen. (And the trivial 1 city (Hamburg) in the State of Hamburg.) I agree that the achievement is more impressive when there are more subdivisions, but I would prefer to not use 3 as a minimum. Waiting for a Geohash to fall into Bremerhaven took forever, and it eventually happened exactly a year ago.

I imagine the Winners section could look similar to the sections at Regional geohashing achievement and Reverse regional achievement - the most subdivisions being at the start of the list, then descending. It is clear to everyone that relet's 11-graticule regional geohash is more impressive than a 2-graticule regional geohash, it is similar here. --Fippe (talk) 06:38, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

I can't think of subdivisions of two near from where I live, but I am also inclined to not restrict it to three, and allow 2 similar to what Fippe mentioned with the other (reverse )Regional achievements. And sure, there are some unimpressive 2 regions to accomplish but everyone is also freely to claim the ribbon if he considers it. --SastRe.O (talk) 09:11, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

Dan, unless I am mistaken, Oxfordshire has five districts and you have already reached Geohashes in the City of Oxford, South Oxfordshire, Cherwell and West Oxfordshire. Only the Vale of White Horse is still missing. --Fippe (talk) 13:22, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

Support. Although I am afraid it would take me some time to achieve one of these ^^ --SastRe.O (talk) 09:11, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

Support. Seems like a reasonable addition to the "regional" set of achievements. Jiml (talk) 15:13, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

Support. Hooray, this would mean that those colorful maps on my computer will lead to an achievement when I ever complete them! I'm currently at 13/19 of the larger and 22/64 of the smaller subdivisions of Dresden. I also have a version of this map where I already reached 80/294 districts of Germany according to the rules of this achievement but as I counted each side of each graticule border separately it's been more like 100/1000 so far; Saxony alone is much further along though. I don't care for two-part subdivisions but if somebody wants to gain this achievement in such a boring way they should be able to. - Danatar (talk) 21:51, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

Support. I don't see any reason not to have this achievement Gefrierbrand (talk) 11:32, 5 September 2020 (UTC)