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Hey. What's your opinion on the new page layout? It was suggested on the [[talk:Atlanta, Georgia|talk]] page that the graticule page be rewrote to make it a bit clearer. Do you want me to go ahead and look up all past expeditions in the graticule and link to them at the top, under the ones for January? I just tried to separate the plans from the actual expedition pages. Just thoughts. Thanks.  [[User:Woodveil|Woodveil]] 03:49, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
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Picture of your graticule. Did you take it? -[[User:Robyn|Robyn]] 15:56, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
  
:It is still not clear from reading the geohash-by-geohash summary descriptions on the [[Atlanta, Georgia]] page which geohashes were attempted and which were merely looked up and listed. No one wants to have to click on every link to to see if there was a successful expedition or not. This is exacerbated by the heading "Geohashes Scouted" because ''scouted'' is used by some geohashers to mean they drove by to make sure it wasn't behind a fence or they visited a day early to make sure it was a good location before inviting their friends. I would recommend separate lists of those that resulted in coordinates reached, coordinates not reached, and those that were merely locations looked up on peeron but not visited. Most active graticules don't list the last, except perhaps for particularly notable locations.
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:No, I stole it from my local radio station. Someone from [http://www.project961.com/cc-common/gallery/globalphotos.html 96.1 FM] took the picture and posted it on the radio stations web site. I had it as my desktop of my computer for a while. There were a number of tornado pictures that people uploaded, but I thought that one was the best.
  
:In addition, consider including a word or two of interesting details about your best expeditions in the summary line, so people can see which would be interesting to click on. Like "overnight camping", "rented a horse", "neighbor called the cops", "best hot dogs ever,"  "thwarted by circus tents".  As you do more expeditions than most graticules, it might be better to move the older expeditions to a subpage every couple of months instead of just once a year. Good picture. -[[User:Robyn|Robyn]] 15:05, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
 
  
:: We do more expeditions in one month than most graticules have ever done. Good picture of what? --[[Special:Contributions/72.243.74.114|72.243.74.114]] 15:40, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
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== Image file sizes ==
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I have contacted the server admin about this and he has removed the warning. --[[User:Joannac|joannac]] 07:00, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
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'''THANK YOU!!! [[User:Joannac|joannac]]''' --[[User:NWoodruff|NWoodruff]] 11:48, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
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::is there a reason this tiny part of the conversation was kept when the context for it was cleaned? --[[User:MykaDragonBlue|mykaDragonBlue [- i have no sig -]]] 00:55, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
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:::Ooh, I can answer this one! Because it's the only place on the wiki where joanna's brave appeal to the server admin is documented, and others might be interested in the repeal. -[[User:Robyn|Robyn]] 04:15, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
  
::: True, but '''one''' expedition in a month is more than most graticules have ever done.  :--- [[User:Benjw|Benjw]] 15:43, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
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== 2008-05-24 34 -84 ==
  
::::Picture of your graticule. Did you take it? -[[User:Robyn|Robyn]] 15:56, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
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Hi, just cleaning out the wiki and looking for some clarification. You say you were around then, and it never happened. Does that mean you were at the point (in which case, you can probably claim it)? If you weren't, then how do you know it never happened? Or am I misinterpreting your statement. Thanks, --[[User:Joannac|joannac]] 00:44, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
  
:::::No, I stole it from my local radio station. Someone from 96.1 FM took the picture and posted it on the radio stations web site. I had it as my desktop of my computer for a while. There were a number of tornado pictures that people uploaded, but I thought that one was the best.
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I remember this time last year that I was e-mailing with someone that lived in Smyrna about geohashing in the now Roswell and he told me that he had been trying to organize an expedition in that graticule but nothing had formed as of yet. It was about a week or two before my first geohash on 2008-06-22. I'm assuming that meant that the 2008-05-24 was a planning page to mean that no movement was to mean no group was formed to find the geohash point. --[[User:NWoodruff|NWoodruff]] 12:24, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
  
:::::Oh, expeditions with green arrows are successful. Expeditions with red arrows are unsuccessful.
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:Are you sure it's the same person? I think the fact there's a time on the page indicates someone was there at the time, and the "no movement" is referring to there being no activity at the hashpoint (i.e. no other hashers). --[[User:Joannac|joannac]] 12:38, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
  
==Beta Tests==
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:No I can't be sure. But since I do work in that graticule, I was interested in making an effort to find a geohash in this graticule. I don't even remember his name. I gave someone else my e-mail address from the Atlanta group and someone else gave it to him because I was interested and worked close to where he lived. I don't have any e-mails from that far back or I would look it up. I do remember him saying to me that he had been trying to get a group together for a month now. That would have been about the time of that entry and the saying "No movement". --[[User:NWoodruff|NWoodruff]] 16:31, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
The anonymous user who keeps recategorizing the February 19th beta test run as Retro expeditions is coming from your IP. If it's you, please stop. It's only a retro if the coordinates were for a day different than the expedition. Those early-2008 meetups were tests of the algorithm, actually conducted in February. Please revert any other such changes you made. Also, could you please log in before editing general pages so that people know who is making the changes? -[[User:Robyn|Robyn]] 16:24, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
 
  
:On the other hand, thankyou for taking the time to edit categories that you thought were wrong.  There are a very large number that need doing, and I'm grateful to anyone who wants to help!  Can point you towards further pages that need editing if you're interested.  -- [[User:Benjw|Benjw]] 17:09, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
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== Anonymous editing ==
  
==I Volunteered You ...==
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Hey, there's some discussion going on about spam and what to do (which will probably affect anonymous editing). Since you do a lot of anonymous editing you should probably add your opinion. [[User:Joannac/Spam|Discussion is here]]. --[[User:Joannac|joannac]] 12:56, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
Your opinion, code and enthusiasm may be applicable to current discussion in [[Talk:Most active graticules‎]]. -[[User:Robyn|Robyn]] 00:35, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
 
:Did you include all Portland's expeditions in your latest update?  One of the reasons Thomcat updated so slowly is that he did try to find expeditions that hadn't been reported properly, and made sure they got included. Portland has a lot of expedition reports to write. I think they have a few left for April. -[[User:Robyn|Robyn]] 05:30, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
 
  
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== Be the first to Geohash on the Moon ==
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Technically, I believe this would be <em>lunahashing</em>. --[[User:Starbird|starbird]] 23:44, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
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Haha, that is a good goal, number 19. I hope it will actually be possible within our lifetimes. I sometimes go on Google Moon just to see where some of the geohashes would be. Like [[User:Starbird|starbird]], i also refer to it as lunarhashing! :) -- [[User:Sermoa|sermoa]] 18:16, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
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It might be interesting to check if accidental ''lunahashing'' weren't made by one of Apollo expeditions or unmanned lunar probes. The same could be possible on  Mars - it would be ''areohashing''. Should we create "Virgin planet" achievement for them? [[User:Felinator|Felinator]] 14:09, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
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== Globalhash ==
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The globalhash for Tuesday is on an [[Augusta, Georgia|Augusta, Georgia]] [http://maps.google.com/maps?q=loc:(33.676530,-81.271464)|access road] or joint driveway. This is EXTREMELY reachable. We need to find a local hasher!  --[[User:billsquared|Bill^2]] 15:59, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
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:Actually it is in South Carolina. But I do think it is going to be attempted.  --[[User:NWoodruff|NWoodruff]] 16:14, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
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== [[Atlanta, Georgia]] ==
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Fwiw, the hash really [http://maps.yahoo.com/#mvt=m&lat=33.575311&lon=-84.500941&zoom=17&q1=33.575311%C2%B0%2C%20-84.500941 does fall] on the southern edge of the road, the name of the road '''''is''''' Connell, and i thought the original phrasing was a bit awkward. Do you disagree with any of these three statements? -- Yours, [[User:CrystyB|CrystyB]] 17:13, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
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:+/- 30 feet means middle of the road is close enough. If I do a speed racer achievement today, it will be in the middle of the road. I never said anything about the name of the road and it is east of Union City, Georgia.
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:Are you going to make that geohash today? Why should you care?
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:My other partner in crime, Luxmundi, might read the front page and see middle of the road and want to attempt it. His iPhone is +/- 150 feet. It might give him a reason to attempt it. --[[User:NWoodruff|NWoodruff]] 17:33, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
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::Points taken. Although, in my defense: deleting that name might be interpreted as "thumbs down" (quote)about the name of the road(un-quote). As for the east/south-east, the map i saw placed the Union City name directly north-west of the hash.
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::Not that ''you'' should care, but i wanted to know whether i did it wrong and to find an appropriate wiki-editing mindset.
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::If by "front page" you mean browser starting page, i agree that my phrasing would get a bit more visibility than i imagined, but otherwise i see no connection between it and the [[Main Page]].
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::Anyway, thanks for the clarifications, and hope you'll nail this one today. -- [[User:CrystyB|CrystyB]] 17:48, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
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:::Front page I was referring to is the Atlanta Front page. Wiki-editing mindset is stick to your own graticule, that is unless you have been here for years or have 100 or so geohashes.
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:::Todays geohash will be my 200th geohash.--[[User:NWoodruff|NWoodruff]] 18:14, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
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== Re: Breakin ==
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NWoodruff:  Sorry to hear about your truck, camera, and GPS unit.  I hope your finances allow a speedy return to the sport.  In the meantime, it won't be the same around here without you.  --[[User:Aperfectring|aperfectring]] 03:44, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
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NWoodruff: Sorry to hear about the breakin. I went to school in ATL (as you may be able to surmise) and I've had vehicles broken into on several occasions. I've been reading a lot of your expeditions since my introduction to geohashing last week. I hope that you are able to begin hashing in earnest again soon. In the meantime, I'd love to read about some [[No Batteries Geohash]] attempts. ;)  [[User:Ramblingwreck|Ramblingwreck]] 04:47, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
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== Newark NJ in July ==
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Kyukket has two successful geohashes on the 24th and 25th, bringing the number of expeditions this month to three.  Two others were planned but not attempted.
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:Okay, thanks. Did they not show up on the most active page? --[[User:NWoodruff|NWoodruff]] 14:32, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
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:I don't know. I created the pages for him, and I must have missed the categories at first.  I went back after a couple of days, so they slipped -through the cracks. --[[User:Jevanyn|Jevanyn]] 16:52, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
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== People youd like to hash with ==
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Make sure you hit me up if you ever come to NZ! [[User:Greenslime|Greenslime]] 21:52, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
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== Atlanta = Most Active 01/2011 ==
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Congratulations on the Most Active Graticule Achievement 01/2011 for Atlanta. If you hadn't waited to document the latest three expeditions until the 1st of februrary the good people of [[50,8]] would have had a chance to at least try and beat you by doing just one more expedition in their own graticule ... ah well, better luck next time :(( - [[User:Mampfred|Mampfred]] 09:57, 1 February 2011 (EST)
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:That is the reason why you need to get out and Geohash every chance you get. I didn't know if you guys were going to Geohash another one, so, I did every Geohash that I could. If you are going to beat Atlanta, it will take some fun Geohash work. --[[User:NWoodruff|NWoodruff]] 13:35, 1 February 2011 (EST)
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::You're missing the point. It's just particularly frustrating if you're about to grab the achievement and suddenly three more expeditions, all for the same graticule (and still lacking a proper report and photos ;), are popping up unexpectedly ... let's look at this the other way round: you maybe wouldn't have done and I quote "every Geohash that I could" because "I didn't know if you guys were going to Geohash another one" if it had taken us two weeks to document our expeditions. Sure, I could have held back some of our documentation too but that doesn't seem right. That takes the competition fun out of it for me, so I'll go for other achievements from now on and leave that particular one to you and/or Atlanta. And I'll quit whining now. - [[User:Mampfred|Mampfred]] 13:59, 1 February 2011 (EST)
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:::That is just the way it happens. Take this expedition as an example, [[2009-12-02_-37_144| 2009-12-02 -37 144]]. I had a last man standing achievement for more than 3 months. Someone came around and filed a report 3 months(not 5 days) later with out any pictures or proof, my last man standing is now gone. Oh well, I'll just try harder for another one. The 3 expeditions in question are only 4 days apart. Not every one files reports on the same day. I don't have my camera with me today or I would upload the pictures. I'll get to it in the next few days. Most people go a month or more before uploading pictures.
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:::If you look at the list of Overall Record for Most Coordinates Reached with 9 or more Coordinates Reached a month, there are two other Graticules on the list, and they each have only 1 entry. Atlanta has 12 entries on that list. I knew that if I wanted the Most Active Graticule for the month, I needed to have at least 10. If you want to be the Most active for the month, be the most active that you can be, and don't depend on a list to just be one better than the next guy. Being 1 better than the next guy doesn't mean a thing. Be at it the best you can be and then take the award. There are months in 2009 where I had TRIPLE the number of geohashes than the next closest graticule. Not just 1 more than the next best graticule but 3 times as many. 
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:::I actually expanded the Overall Record from the Top 3 to Top 10 so other graticules would appear in the list.
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:::I enjoy the Hell out of Geohashing. I'm not in it anymore for the record. I've got most of them. I'm in it for the incredible fun that it has turned out to be. If that makes me the most active every time because nobody else in the world sees this sport as fun and only something to have a record at then "Oh Well". If I was in it for only the record, I would have stopped almost 2 years ago. I set the most in one month nearly 2 years ago.
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:::I've set my sights now on being the Most Active Globalhasher. I now want a total of 2 Global Hashes. 1 Globalhash is never enough. My second feat will be Consecutive Global Hashes. I'm not doing it for the record, I'm doing it because of the thrill of it. Because someone has attached a record to it means nothing to me. --[[User:NWoodruff|NWoodruff]] 14:54, 1 February 2011 (EST)
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== Most Active Pages ==
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Great work with the most active pages. But since it's starting to be a dozen updates a day, it's kinda spamming the [[Special:RecentChanges|RecentChanges]]. How about creating a new user to do the updates and get it flagged as a bot so the updates don't show up in the list unless you're explicitely looking for them? Just a thought. - [[User:Mampfred|Mampfred]] 09:08, 15 July 2011 (EDT)
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:How do I flag my userid as a bot?? --[[User:NWoodruff|NWoodruff]] 09:53, 15 July 2011 (EDT)
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I believe an Admin needs to turn on the Bot bit.  However, you might also consider not updating more than
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once a month, say,  some of the pages.  I doubt the Antarctic region is changing very soon...  [[User:Jiml|Jiml]] 10:35, 15 July 2011 (EDT)
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:I created a bot account but I don't know who to speak to, to get it set as a bot. My program that I wrote will say if there is activity in the current month. I thought about updating it that way. The ocean graticules will probably never get any activity either but, I wanted to do them to show that there was no activity.
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:What my program doesn't say is if there was activity since the last update, which means if Asia only has one Expedition this month that I would more than likely be updating it all month even though there was only one entry.
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:I've been doing the page update now every day for the last 2 years manually, meaning I run my program, log on to this website and copy by hand the data. I've only missed a day or two in 2 years. I haven't decided yet if I want to do the regional pages every day yet since this is only the third day I've been doing it. I may just decide to do them once a month anyway.
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:I anyway created a new user...[[User:NWoodBot|NWoodBot]]. --[[User:NWoodruff|NWoodruff]] 10:55, 15 July 2011 (EDT)
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::Well if you're doing the updates manually I wouldn't bother using a bot account as sooner or later you're probably going to be using the wrong one and it's even messier than before (no offense, would happen to anyone). But you should probably consider automating the updates to save you a lot of time ... and only then move it to the bot account. - [[User:Mampfred|Mampfred]] 11:01, 15 July 2011 (EDT)
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Hi NWoodruff.  I was just looking at the [[Most active graticules]] table.  Thanks for keeping it updated.  I noticed that graticule 52,0 (Cambridge, UK) correctly appears at #19 in the table, with 63 expeditions.  However, graticule 52,-0 (Northampton, UK) ''also'' appears as "Cambridge, UK" (joint #46 with 26 expeditions).  Similarly, 51,0 (London East) and 51,-0 (London West) both appear as "London East, UK".  In both cases I suspect the program you use to compile the stats is treating "-0" as if it were "0", so it's a bit of an obscure error which only appears for a few graticules west of the prime meridian.  Is there any chance, though, that you might be able to fix this?  Many thanks.  — <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml">[[User:Benjw|Benjw]]</span>&nbsp; <sub>{[[User talk:Benjw|talk]]}</sub> 09:31, 22 August 2012 (EDT)
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:Fixed... Thanks for pointing out the error to me. --[[User:NWoodruff|NWoodruff]] 10:23, 25 August 2012 (EDT)
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::Splendid!  Looks great.  Thanks again for taking the time to do that.  — <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml">[[User:Benjw|Benjw]]</span>&nbsp; <sub>{[[User talk:Benjw|talk]]}</sub> 13:38, 25 August 2012 (EDT)
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Hi! Thank you for your "Most Active Graticules" pages. I'd like however to bring to your attention the question we asked here: [[Talk:Asia_Most_Active_Graticules]]. It's about (mis)placement of "Moscow, Russia" graticule into "Asia" category. Could you please consider moving it to "Europe" or explaining why it should stay in "Asia"? [[User:Vb|vb]] ([[User talk:Vb|talk]]) 04:24, 31 August 2013 (EDT)
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: For history. The source for the list of gaticules is this page: [[All_graticules/Eurasia]]. Moved some graticules from Asia to Europe, but list is still imperfect. Gonna consider it later. [[User:Vb|vb]] ([[User talk:Vb|talk]]) 13:37, 31 August 2013 (EDT)
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On the [[Most active graticules]] page, the Coordinates reached data seems to be present twice. There is an up-to-date version and after that an older version, dated 6/26/2015, that might need to be removed manually - or am I missing something. Thanks for this interesting page! --[[User:Sourcerer|Sourcerer]] ([[User talk:Sourcerer|talk]]) 07:41, 20 July 2015 (EDT)
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:You are correct, it needed to be removed manually. It appears that the tag for ==Coordinates reached== was changed somehow. My program didn't see the correct tag and created another one. It is fixed now. --[[User:NWoodruff|NWoodruff]] ([[User talk:NWoodruff|talk]]) 10:06, 20 July 2015 (EDT)
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::Thanks --[[User:Sourcerer|Sourcerer]] ([[User talk:Sourcerer|talk]]) 21:43, 21 July 2015 (EDT)
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It's Sourcerer moaning again and perhaps making a confession. The [[Most active graticules]] page now has Expeditions twice and no Coordinates reached. If your code references numbered sections, I have probably broken it by removing the Ribbon template section. If you refer to sections by name it's most likely not me. I have been cleaning up all the [[Achievements]] pages, some of which had become a bit chaotic. The ribbon template links are now the first item on the page, not sunk under hundreds of links to winners. At the same time, I sorted out other problems like missing categories, missing documentation and a few missing templates. Apologies if I have broken your code. --[[User:Sourcerer|Sourcerer]] ([[User talk:Sourcerer|talk]]) 10:08, 23 July 2015 (EDT)
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:Yep... You broke it. It has worked well without touching it for 5 year, AND... you broke it. Back to the drawing board. --[[User:NWoodruff|NWoodruff]] ([[User talk:NWoodruff|talk]]) 20:57, 25 July 2015 (EDT)
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::15 minutes of code rewrite fixed it.--[[User:NWoodruff|NWoodruff]] ([[User talk:NWoodruff|talk]]) 21:06, 25 July 2015 (EDT)
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:::Oops - sorry! I hope it was worth it though. The achievements pages are more consistent and user friendly now.
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== Map of Graticules ==
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Hey NWoodruff
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First, thanks for the map of my hashes. Just wondering, can you tell me how often it updates, and how I can convince it that one of my hashes was a virgin hash so it comes up with a pretty white marker? In otherwords, what are the inputs required to generate the map? Cheers [[User:Greenslime|Greenslime]] 00:08, 9 August 2011 (EDT)
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:Hi [[User:Greenslime|Greenslime]]. I update it manually when I see that there are additions to the list. I haven't noticed any updates in Auckland lately so I haven't looked to see if you had Geohashed lately. You are right that I did miss that one of your geohashes was a Virgin Hash. I did fix it.
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:You can view the source of the map by right clicking on the map and then select "View Source".
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:if you look at the source and look for the procedure call named "addPlace", that is where all the markers are added to the map. You can add new markers by copying one of the lines and pasting it in a new line. You would need to correct the information in the new line to reflect the new Geohash. Lines can be added in any order that you like, but I like to add newest geohashes at the bottom of the list. That way the oldest is at the top and newest is at the bottom.
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:The list of color markers is right below the last "addPlace" procedure call, with 7 being the number for "Virgin Graticule Award". The color of the marker depends on the number at the end of the procedure call "addPlace".
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:I host your list on my own web storage space. Once you view the source of your map, you can store your source code to your own web space that wiki.xkcd.com can see, or send me your new source code of your map in an email and I'll upload it to my own personal web space.
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:If you have any other questions you can always send me an email or leave me a message here.
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Hey, I just wanted to stop by and say THANKS for the map of the hashes! :) Cheers, [[User:Onicofago|Onicofago]]
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== Javascript for graticule map ==
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Hey y'all!
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I'm hacking a bit on an Erlang solution that calculates all retro hashes around your location and maps it. Right now I have borrowed your javascript code for mapping Greenslime's adventuresbut in order for me to release the code I need to know the author and licence of that javascript. So right now my erlang code has cached all DJIA and calculates all retro hashes from 1928-10-01 until now in about a second and then outputs javascript with arrows for all hashes.
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You can see an example output [http://fiskgunnar.kjellander.com/retro/ here]. Right now it is just a the static output of one run of my program but I'm planning to do it interactive so you easily can get all retros around you. So what I need now is Author and licence of the javascript.
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Take care. --[[User:Cjk|Cjk]] 15:36, 8 February 2012 (EST)
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:I wrote it. I used the examples from googles map api. But I wrote everything else. --[[User:NWoodruff|NWoodruff]] 15:45, 8 February 2012 (EST)
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:: if you want something that maps retro hashes for you, I have already written code for that more than 2 years ago. --[[User:NWoodruff|NWoodruff]] 15:46, 8 February 2012 (EST)
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:::Oh cool, can I release it as GPL? I kinda have a very good implementation already. Does all retros in less than a second. I just need to make it work for negative numbers and especially -0. --[[User:Cjk|Cjk]] 19:58, 9 February 2012 (EST)
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::::Do with it what you like. --[[User:NWoodruff|NWoodruff]] 08:07, 10 February 2012 (EST)
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'''Noob just up the road'''
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Nathan - I am a noob who lives up the road from you in Bethlehem. Can you email me? I have a question for you.
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== 1958-08-03 50 6 ==
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On the [[50,6]] page, you suggest the 1958-08-03 retrohash. Hijackal was 40 m north of that hash in 2010, racing down the Nürburgring on his bike. He has neither tracklog nor pictures of the hashsite though - every gram of weight counts. There might be general proof of having completed several laps of the Nordschleife, though. --[[User:Hijackal|Hijackal]] 23:04, 13 April 2012 (EDT)
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== 2010-02-07 59 16 ==
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I don't quite understand the edit of [[2010-02-07 59 16]]. It went beyond planning to an actual expedition, we were there but didn't complete. [[User:The ru|The ru]] 18:12, 23 August 2012 (EDT)
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: The tag at the bottom says that you didn't attempt. I read that tag and added the planning part. If it is wrong, you can change the tags. --[[User:NWoodruff|NWoodruff]] 18:14, 23 August 2012 (EDT)
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:: Yeah, I added it back. No big deal, I just was a bit confused. [[User:The ru|The ru]] 18:18, 23 August 2012 (EDT)
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::: for the most active graticle report page to function correctly, I need a category of planning, reached or not reached. I'm updating all pages to have one of those categories --[[User:NWoodruff|NWoodruff]] 18:20, 23 August 2012 (EDT)
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== RE: Atlanta Colleges! ==
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Tempting, for sure. I'll have to look into it. Most active graticle in TEH WORLD? That would be juuuust fine by me.
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-quietly adds Atlanta to shortlist-
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Although it would be pretty hard to explain the decision to family and friends. Oh well!
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[[User:SamBurge|SamBurge]] 23:37, 31 January 2013 (EST)
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== Interactive Google map ==
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Hi Nathan
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Thanx for coding this nice little gimmick. Unfortunately it doesn't work for me, might be because of the underline in my user name..?
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Cheers
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--[[User:Chris 47 8|Chris 47 8]] ([[User talk:Chris 47 8|talk]]) 03:12, 31 January 2014 (EST)
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Nathan,
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Thanks - this is sweet.
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I tried to look up the map for JMuonio but couldn't see it. Am I supposed to be able to
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see anyone's but yours and mine?
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-George
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[[User:Mcbaneg|Mcbaneg]] ([[User talk:Mcbaneg|talk]]) 23:11, 22 February 2014 (EST)
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this really looks brilliant & thanks for doing this. I could look up several users (tested 5 succeeded 3). ALso the map for me did not show up, so most of it works, but not yet everything?
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-JW [[User:JwB|JwB]]
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Interesting - For me it shows only two out of nearly 150 expeditions. I have made my own based on a hand-crafted KML file [http://nbest.co.uk/SourcererGeohash/index.php here]. This is a really nice idea if you can get it working properly. [[User:Sourcerer|Sourcerer]] ([[User talk:Sourcerer|talk]]) 17:34, 8 August 2014 (EDT)Soucerer
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[[User:Sourcerer|Sourcerer]] ([[User talk:Sourcerer|talk]]) 05:02, 10 August 2014 (EDT)Sourcerer: Ah of course. I am listing my expeditions in a non-standard way as there are so many of them. I assumed you were searching Category: Expeditions but perhaps there is no easy/efficient way to identify the participants from there. I wonder if that could be retro-fitted into the wiki. I don't think you should code a solution, only for me, unless it generalises to all users.
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[[User:Sourcerer|Sourcerer]] ([[User talk:Sourcerer|talk]]) 08:48, 11 August 2014 (EDT)Sourcerer: Thanks. I spotted your awesome activity level soon after I first signed up for the Wiki. I only manage one or two a month and usually by car:(
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Nathan - the interactive map for me was working beautifully, but in June 2014 I switched my expedition
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list to an APerfectBot-generated one at [[User:Mcbaneg/Expeditions]].  It doesn't appear that the map-bot has figured that out, and no expeditions since then have showed up.  Is there a way for me to point it at my list?  If not, could I trouble you to do it?
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Thank you - it's a lovely addition to the wiki.
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--[[User:Mcbaneg|Mcbaneg]] ([[User talk:Mcbaneg|talk]]) 15:24, 24 August 2014 (EDT)
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: You made an entry on my page pointing out that you have pointed the map-bot at my expedition page.  I want to thank you here where people are more likely to see it!  Thanks - the maps add lots of interest and fun to this oddball hobby we share.--[[User:Mcbaneg|Mcbaneg]] ([[User talk:Mcbaneg|talk]]) 19:12, 27 August 2014 (EDT)
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I asked in the Breaking News section but didn't realize there was a section here on the Interactive map(which is really sweet, btw). It doesn't look like this is updating any longer for me. My map has all my hashes from Aug but none from Sept. Looking at the notes above, I may have broken it for myself with my new expedition report layout on my page. Can you take a look and see please? [[User:Pedalpusher|Pedalpusher]] ([[User talk:Pedalpusher|talk]]) 11:04, 9 October 2014 (EDT)
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: You are correct that it stopped working for you. It has to do in the way that I search through html tables. Not only did it not work for you there were other people that it didn't work for either. it is now fixed. --[[User:NWoodruff|NWoodruff]] ([[User talk:NWoodruff|talk]]) 15:41, 9 October 2014 (EDT)
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:Thanks it's good now, and again, great contribution. [[User:Pedalpusher|Pedalpusher]] ([[User talk:Pedalpusher|talk]]) 12:45, 10 October 2014 (EDT)
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Hey Nathan - found a minor bug in the map. I was the only one to report an expedition on [[:Category:Meetup_on_2015-01-08|2015-10-08]] but I did not make it to the hash. You might want to add a check for Coords reached when checking for the Last Man Standing flag. [[User:Pedalpusher|Pedalpusher]] ([[User talk:Pedalpusher|talk]]) 13:15, 12 January 2015 (EST)
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: Minor bug - me too. I failed to reach the coordinates on [[2010-12-25_52_0]] so should probably not gain "Last Man Standing" --[[User:Sourcerer|Sourcerer]] ([[User talk:Sourcerer|talk]]) 11:47, 13 January 2015 (EST)
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::Minor bug of Last Man Standing on Coordinates not reached has been fixed. It should be just a Not Reached Flag from now on. --[[User:NWoodruff|NWoodruff]] ([[User talk:NWoodruff|talk]]) 19:29, 15 April 2015 (EDT)
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Is the map not updating lately? I don't have any new hashmarks(6 expeditions missing) on my map since my expedition on Mouse-over day (May 23rd). I checked and your 2015-05-30 expedition isn't on your map either... [[User:Pedalpusher|Pedalpusher]] ([[User talk:Pedalpusher|talk]]) 14:55, 9 June 2015 (EDT)
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:It is set to update every Monday and Thursday. I'll check the server to make sure it is still scheduled to run. --[[User:NWoodruff|NWoodruff]] ([[User talk:NWoodruff|talk]]) 21:09, 9 June 2015 (EDT)
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::Actually I am going to blame [[User:Calamus|Calamus]] on this problem. His expedition on [[2015-05-20_46_7|2015-05-20]] did not have a map in the page write up. There was no coordinates so the program exited. I have now coded for the error condition and skip that days event. But, I did fix Calamus's page. I'll set the map program to run again tonight.
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::I have checked today and all user maps are up to date. --[[User:NWoodruff|NWoodruff]] ([[User talk:NWoodruff|talk]]) 19:22, 11 June 2015 (EDT)
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:::Hmmmm...looks like my map is still missing my last 6 expeditions. Can you please check my map when you get a chance? Thanks. [[User:Pedalpusher|Pedalpusher]] ([[User talk:Pedalpusher|talk]]) 09:28, 12 June 2015 (EDT)
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::::I'm looking at the file of your map now. Updated at 2015-06-11_02:54am EDT. You should be good to go. Have you tried clearing your browser cache? <ctrl>R???--[[User:NWoodruff|NWoodruff]] ([[User talk:NWoodruff|talk]]) 13:11, 12 June 2015 (EDT)
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:::::Yep, that must have been it. My map is updated. [[User:Pedalpusher|Pedalpusher]] ([[User talk:Pedalpusher|talk]]) 12:10, 15 June 2015 (EDT)
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Thank you very much for these nice maps!! <br>Could you please update Q-Owla's? The hashpoints of 2016-02-29 50 8 and later are missing. <br>--[[User:Q-Owl|Q-Owl]] ([[User talk:Q-Owl|talk]]) 12:19, 31 March 2016 (UTC)
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== Raw Wiki Data ==
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Hi Nathan - How do you harvest the wiki data to compile your maps and statistics? I'm interested in, and have some coding aptitude including SQL. Can I get hold of the relevant wiki tables? I assume they're regularly backed up somewhere. --[[User:Sourcerer|Sourcerer]] ([[User talk:Sourcerer|talk]]) 11:18, 30 January 2015 (EST)
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: Thanks for the pointer to your code. I'll have a good look at this.
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== Out-hash the world ==
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In January I made 20 expeditions. All the other geohashers in the world totalled only 13 (numbers subject to late reports). I'm guessing that you also, have out-hashed the world during your busy history. Do you think this is worth a ribbon? I have proposed one [[Awesome_addiction_achievement|here]] and would appreciate your thoughts. --[[User:Sourcerer|Sourcerer]] ([[User talk:Sourcerer|talk]]) 09:06, 1 February 2015 (EST)
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: OK I can't count and this is complete rubbish. It was fun while I was in fantasy-math land though! I still wonder if anyone has managed this though. --[[User:Sourcerer|Sourcerer]] ([[User talk:Sourcerer|talk]]) 09:50, 1 February 2015 (EST)
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:: Since there are only 30 or 31 days in a month, not counting Feburary, if the world geohashed more than 30/31 times, this would be unavailable/unattainable. --[[User:NWoodruff|NWoodruff]] ([[User talk:NWoodruff|talk]]) 10:01, 4 February 2015 (EST)
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::: I grabbed six hashpoints in one day this January, taking advantage of the Grenwich meridian mirror effect. If that could be repeated several times, I'd be in the running but it's pretty unlikely.
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:: On the other hand Atlanta has out Geohashed all other graticules for 4 years in a row. I doubt any other graticule will ever do that again. --[[User:NWoodruff|NWoodruff]] ([[User talk:NWoodruff|talk]]) 10:03, 4 February 2015 (EST)
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::: If someone gets onto the international news, geohashing and it goes viral, there might be an order of magnitude increase in geohashing. We need something like "dolphin rescues boy at the marine hashpoint" or "dog rescues human who fell down the well at the hashpoint". Maybe there will be some coordinates that are so cool, it generates a flash mob. Then all records would be up for grabs. --[[User:Sourcerer|Sourcerer]] ([[User talk:Sourcerer|talk]]) 11:12, 23 July 2015 (EDT)
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 +
== Slight map problem ==
 +
 
 +
Hi Nathan - I see two problems with the map GooMapXKCDthomcat.htm -- 1) Coordinates for expedition 194 are incorrect, and match the peeron inset on the expedition page. This is incorrect; I have posted about it on the implementations page.  2) The coordinates for 195 and 196 are correct, but no marker is appearing on the map. 194 appears in the improper location (but matches the expedition), 193 and before are correct and match the expedition. Let me know if I can help debug things, and thanks! --[[User:Thomcat|Thomcat]] ([[User talk:Thomcat|talk]]) 23:45, 14 April 2015 (EDT)
 +
:Curiously, the second problem is now gone. Perhaps there is a local cache problem? The code looks unchanged to me. I am pushing on the IRC for the first problem to be solved, because I bet it will be a problem next year also (and perhaps this fall). Will you have to update the coords manually for between DST dates? --[[User:Thomcat|Thomcat]] ([[User talk:Thomcat|talk]]) 09:43, 15 April 2015 (EDT)
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::The first problem is related to XKCD's website as there is no recorded Dow Jones open data for Mar 24 2015. Per Yahoo the open is 18,102.50 for that date. It would take forever and a day to generate the map pages if I had to read the opening data for every expedition. So, I just get the coordinates off of the expedition page. Get the website to fix the coordinates for that day and your map marker will be in the correct place next time I create map pages for everyone.
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::As for the second problem, it was probably a local cache because the current map I have for you was generated at 4/13/2015 at 3:39am edt.
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 +
::As for DST dates, I don't think it makes a difference on the algorithm of how the coordinates are calculated. The hour of the day makes no difference to the algorithm. I think it has more to do with the website having bad data due to how Google changed how it displays the Dow opening the beginning of the month.
 +
:::Gotcha, thanks --[[User:Thomcat|Thomcat]] ([[User talk:Thomcat|talk]]) 21:37, 15 April 2015 (EDT)
 +
 
 +
==Counting hashers==
 +
Hi Nathan,
 +
I like the idea to automate the counting of the active hashers. But the automated list is incomplete. It only shows 68 hashers. There must be more than 100, aren't there? I miss 3 (Pastori, Eldin, and LucasBrown) of the most active hashers in the last two years (according to Mystrsyko). I'll list some of my expeditions that are missing on the interactive map to help to find the error:
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*[[2014-02-07 49 8]]
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*[[2014-02-21 49 8]]
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*[[2014-03-15 49 8]]
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*[[2014-03-25 49 8]]
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*[[2014-04-12 48 8]]
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 +
[[User:DODO|DODO]] ([[User talk:DODO|talk]])
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 +
: The reason why those expeditions are not showing on the automated most active list is because those are not listed on your user page. List them on your user page and they will show up next time.
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: I read the active users page to get a list of active users. I do that for the maps because no need to regenerate user maps if they have no activity. I currently use the data generated from the user maps program to spit out the automated list. I will come up with a better way but I wanted to automate the list and that way only took about 30 minutes of programming to get that list.--[[User:NWoodruff|NWoodruff]] ([[User talk:NWoodruff|talk]]) 13:56, 17 April 2015 (EDT)
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 +
:: Ok, that explains, why several users are missing. But I'm not convinced with the explanation of my counted expeditions. I put ALL expeditions of 2014 on an [[DODOs Expeditions 2014|archive page]], so why are some expeditions counted but others not. OK, there were 3 or 4 meetups, which were also visited by other users, but these never count up to 22. [[User:DODO|DODO]] ([[User talk:DODO|talk]])
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 +
::: They are not showing because they are on an archive page. I will add your archive page to the map generation program so they are included.--[[User:NWoodruff|NWoodruff]] ([[User talk:NWoodruff|talk]]) 15:39, 17 April 2015 (EDT)
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 +
== Target 22, Mercury ==
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 +
Just visit the terminator. It's cool enough round the back. There must be a Goldilocks temperature point! --[[User:Sourcerer|Sourcerer]] ([[User talk:Sourcerer|talk]]) 11:34, 1 June 2015 (EDT)
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:That would be great if the hash landed there at the time of my visit but it probably won't. More than likely the hash would end up on the sun facing side. --[[User:NWoodruff|NWoodruff]] ([[User talk:NWoodruff|talk]]) 13:48, 5 June 2015 (EDT)
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 +
== South America Most Active Graticules ==
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Hi Nathan! Any chance this page could be updated? I think my home graticule should be #1 now :) --[[User:Onicofago|Onicofago]] ([[User talk:Onicofago|talk]]) 22:58, 4 June 2015 (EDT)
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 +
:There seems to be a new feature added to the website that starts rejecting edits after 15 edits in short succession. If you notice, your continent is the last one. XKCD starts rejecting my inserts after the Artic ocean. I'll have to see what I can do to fix the problem. But for now I have manually copied the data to the website. --[[User:NWoodruff|NWoodruff]] ([[User talk:NWoodruff|talk]]) 13:43, 5 June 2015 (EDT)
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:: Strange behavior, isn't it? Thanks for doing it manually, Nathan, it must be a pain... --[[User:Onicofago|Onicofago]] ([[User talk:Onicofago|talk]]) 17:29, 7 June 2015 (EDT)
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 +
== ambassador help sheets ==
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 +
Hi Nathan! <br> Today I found the ambassador help sheets ([[:Image:Ambassador-DE.png|de]],  [[:Image:Ambassador-EN-GB.png|en-gb]], [[:Image:Ambassador-EN-US.png|en-us]]). The map and date on it refers to 2008-09-24. :-( <br>Is it possible to build pages (not solid images), where the actual data is shown and from which users can copy and paste it (e. g. into word)?<br>--[[User:Q-Owl|Q-Owl]] ([[User talk:Q-Owl|talk]]) 06:13, 29 October 2015 (EDT)
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:Yes, it is possible and shouldn't be that difficult for an experienced programmer. --[[User:NWoodruff|NWoodruff]] ([[User talk:NWoodruff|talk]]) 22:01, 29 October 2015 (EDT)
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 +
::Oh... Were you asking me if I could do this? --[[User:NWoodruff|NWoodruff]] ([[User talk:NWoodruff|talk]]) 02:22, 9 February 2016 (EST)
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 +
:::Hmm, yes. That would be nice. And I could send you the German translation for the German version.
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::::Okay, you have twisted my arm... I'll look into it. --[[User:NWoodruff|NWoodruff]] ([[User talk:NWoodruff|talk]]) 14:46, 31 March 2016 (UTC)
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 +
:::::Ups, I forgot, that the german text exists. But one passage should be corrected a little bit:<br>--------------------<br>Beispiel: Die Abbildung zeigt das Gebiet Nord 50° / Ost 8°, in dem Frankfurt liegt. Es hat die Koordinaten 50° bis 51° nördlicher Breite und 8° bis 9° östlicher Breite. Die Markierung zeigt den Zielpunkt, der für den 02.04.2016 gültig ist.<br><br>Der heutige Zielpunkt für dieses Gebiet liegt zufälligerweise auf Ihrem Grundstück. Die Wahrscheinlichkeit dafür war weniger als 0,00001%.<br><br>Falls Sie dieses Spiel interessiert, oder Sie (bzw. jemand, den Sie kennen) in Zukunft mitspielen wollen, besuchen Sie uns im Internet: ... ...<br>--------------------<br><br>And can you make the graticule variable too? Eg. that a sheet 2016-04-02 49 8 arises with the matching Graticule-Name (here Mannheim). This would be the ambassador-swiss-army-knife. ;-)<br>--[[User:Q-Owl|Q-Owl]] ([[User talk:Q-Owl|talk]]) 12:57, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
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 +
== Most active graticules - counting bug/feature ==
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 +
Hello again. I have found an interesting counting problem with "Most active graticules". If both "coordinates reached" and "coordinates not reached" are present, the expedition gets counted twice. There are more details on that [[Talk:Most_active_graticules/old#Miss-count_in_January_2016.3F|talk page]]. --[[User:Sourcerer|Sourcerer]] ([[User talk:Sourcerer|talk]]) 06:57, 3 January 2016 (EST)
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 +
And [[Europe_Most_Active_Graticules]] had its last update on 6/5/2015 5:17:57 PM UTC. The year 2015 is not in the first table anyway. --[[User:Burgman|Burgman]] ([[User talk:Burgman|talk]]) 14:29, 9 February 2016 (EST)
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 +
== Your Notification System ==
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 +
Hi NWoodruff, I have a few questions for you. I just signed up and was setting up a notification for the global hash, but the distance to specify doesn't have units associated with it. Does it use miles or Km? Also, do you notify for everything over the weekend/holidays on Friday(or the day before) or does it go once a day for that day?  When I click on the Help button, I get logged off rather than helped. :( Lastly, anywhere I can update/change my password(this isn't a big deal, just curious)? Thanks. [[User:Pedalpusher|Pedalpusher]] ([[User talk:Pedalpusher|talk]]) 16:48, 8 February 2016 (EST)
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: Hi Pedalpusher. As I am not from a metric country, one of the last remaining hold outs, we view the entire world in miles. So, unfortunately you get the notification emails in miles, however useless of a measurement that is for you. Maybe I should put in some type of switch between miles/kilometers. I bet somewhere on the internet is the formula for miles to kilometers, however useless kilometers is.
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:As for weekends, since I know Fridays, Saturdays, and Sundays, location Friday morning, you get those days locations Friday morning unless you are east of w30, in which you get Saturdays, Sundays, and Mondays.
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: Also since I am the laziest of web developers, there is no help system on my Notify web app. AND unfortunately if you hit the help button, the only thing you get is logged off. So, word of warning.... don't hit the help button.
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 +
: As for changing the password, there is no way to change it. If you would like to change it, send me your new password in a personal email. You can find my email address over there <-- in the "Email this user" link. I don't store the password encrypted on my server and thus the reason why is it only random letters. Inversely, if you forget your password, since it is only random letters and not encrypted, I can email the forgotten password to you.
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:I hope that helps--[[User:NWoodruff|NWoodruff]] ([[User talk:NWoodruff|talk]]) 02:21, 9 February 2016 (EST)
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::Very helpful, thanks. And while the best solution would be to code in a mi/km switch, the easy solution would probably just be to display the units in miles(which I am also very familiar with). ;) [[User:Pedalpusher|Pedalpusher]] ([[User talk:Pedalpusher|talk]]) 09:29, 9 February 2016 (EST)
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Hi NWoodruff, <br>thank you very much for the notification program which sends the daily emails!
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But where can I change the settings (coordinates, radius) a little bit? <br>Best regards. --[[User:Q-Owl|Q-Owl]] ([[User talk:Q-Owl|talk]]) 19:18, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
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:Hi Q-Owl. The only way to change coordinates and radii is to delete the one that needs to be changed and add another entry with the correct information. It is probably not the answer you wanted to hear but is an answer that will work.
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::Where can I do that? At http://xkcd.nathanwoodruff.com/Notify.aspx ? If so I forgot my pasword.  :-(
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:::Yes, that is where you would do it. I have also sent you an email with an updated password. --[[User:NWoodruff|NWoodruff]] ([[User talk:NWoodruff|talk]]) 14:44, 31 March 2016 (UTC)
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::::Thank you!! --[[User:Q-Owl|Q-Owl]] ([[User talk:Q-Owl|talk]]) 20:03, 31 March 2016 (UTC)
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So, from text above it looks likt the unit of "Maximum Notify Distance" is miles? Can you confirm? I put there "5000" thinking it was meters. Thanks. [[User:MGitsfullofsheep|MGitsfullofsheep]] ([[User talk:MGitsfullofsheep|talk]]) 05:21, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
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:Maximum notify distance is in miles. But a maximum notify distance of 0 is unlimited miles --[[User:NWoodruff|NWoodruff]] ([[User talk:NWoodruff|talk]]) 14:33, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
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Notify server's hard drive failed yesterday before the Dow open. The program was not able to run. I purchased a new hard drive on my way home from work yesterday and started the restore process last night. The notify program restore should be complete before the Dow opens this morning. Sorry for no notification yesterday. --[[User:NWoodruff|NWoodruff]] ([[User talk:NWoodruff|talk]]) 13:27, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
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----
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I tried to sign up without success:
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<code><pre>
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ChilkatLog:
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  SendEmail:
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    DllDate: Jan 19 2012
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    UnlockPrefix: AKENNESMAILQ
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    Username: CHRISROOM:xkcd.nathanwoodruff.com
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    Architecture: Little Endian; 32-bit
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    Language: .NET 2.0
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    recipients:
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      TO: [email]
 +
      totalCount: 1
 +
    --recipients
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    renderToMime:
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      createEmailForSending:
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        xSigningAlg: sha1
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        Auto-generating Message-ID
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      --createEmailForSending
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      renderToMime: Elapsed time: 16 millisec
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    --renderToMime
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    SmtpConnect:
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      SmtpHost: smtp.sendgrid.net
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      SmtpPort: 587
 +
      SmtpUsername: NathanWoodruff
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      SmtpSsl: 0
 +
      StartTLS: 0
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      Need new SMTP connection
 +
      checkForExistingConnection: Elapsed time: 0 millisec
 +
      SMTP_Connect:
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        Connecting to SMTP server smtp.sendgrid.net:587
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        smtp_host: smtp.sendgrid.net
 +
        smtp_port: 587
 +
        smtp_user: NathanWoodruff
 +
        ConnectTimeoutMs_1: 30000
 +
        calling ConnectSocket2
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        IPV6 enabled connect with NO heartbeat.
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        connectingTo: smtp.sendgrid.net
 +
        Resolving domain name (IPV4) via gethostbyname
 +
        GetHostByNameHB_ipv4: Elapsed time: 31 millisec
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        maxTimeMs_connect: 30000
 +
        myIP_1: 192.168.3.41
 +
        myPort_1: 52379
 +
        connect successful (1)
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        socketConnect: Elapsed time: 46 millisec
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        InitialResponse: 220 SG ESMTP service ready at geopod-ismtpd-6-2
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        initialResponse: Elapsed time: 32 millisec
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        sendingHello: EHLO ChrisRoom
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        sendEhlo: Elapsed time: 0 millisec
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        helloResponse: 250-smtp.sendgrid.net
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250-8BITMIME
 +
250-PIPELINING
 +
250-SIZE 31457280
 +
250-STARTTLS
 +
250-AUTH PLAIN LOGIN
 +
250 AUTH=PLAIN LOGIN
  
Greetings Nwoodruff - Please try to scale images down to a reasonable size before uploading.. wiki suggests 150kb. A good example is roughly 800x600 at 70% JPEG quality. That's still large enough to make out all details and keeps the server happy. :)  -- [[User:relet|relet]] 14:15, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
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        helloResponse: Elapsed time: 31 millisec
:In any case, 3-5 MB are much too large, especially considering you're a very active geohasher with lots of expeditions. --[[User:Ilpadre|ilpadre]] 16:14, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
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        login_method: LOGIN
:May I echo relet and ilpadre?  Smaller images do help the server and also those of us who like to read other people's expeditions.  A 6MB photo of two dogs sitting on a lawn is maybe a little bit unnecessary.  :-)  You can simply reduce the size in something like MS Paint if you haven't got commercial photo software (like I haven't).  -- [[User:Benjw|Benjw]] 16:38, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
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        535 Authentication failed: Bad username / password
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        Failed to get response to login password
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        ConnectionLog:
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          220 SG ESMTP service ready at geopod-ismtpd-6-2
 +
EHLO ChrisRoom
 +
250-smtp.sendgrid.net
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250-8BITMIME
 +
250-PIPELINING
 +
250-SIZE 31457280
 +
250-STARTTLS
 +
250-AUTH PLAIN LOGIN
 +
250 AUTH=PLAIN LOGIN
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AUTH LOGIN
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334 VXNlcm5hbWU6
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TmF0aGFuV29vZHJ1ZmY=
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334 UGFzc3dvcmQ6
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NDY1NHJpcHBsaW5n
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535 Authentication failed: Bad username / password
  
'''Are you guys kidding?''' Help the server? Do you even know how this software works?
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        --ConnectionLog
: '''First''' of all, every image that you look at on any of these pages is 200x150, '''NOT''' ''the uploaded size.'' Every time you upload an image file it is automatically made into a thumb image. Every image that you view is a thumb image. Take the photo of two dogs sitting on a lawn [http://wiki.xkcd.com/wgh/images/thumb/2009060833-84NW03.JPG/200px-2009060833-84NW03.JPG]. This is the actual image that you see. It is 7 Kilobytes.
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        Failed to login using LOGIN method
:: if you click on that file, you get to see the wiki page about that image. That image is automatically changed to a thumb nail of 800x600. Here is the thumb image [http://wiki.xkcd.com/wgh/images/thumb/2009060833-84NW01.JPG/800px-2009060833-84NW01.JPG] at 800x600.
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      --SMTP_Connect
::: if you then click on that image of the wiki page for that image, '''ONLY THEN''' do you get to see the full resolution of that image. NEVER EVER does that full resolution image ever transfer over the server unless YOU decide that you want to see the FULL image resolution.
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      checkOrMakeSmtpConnection: Elapsed time: 328 millisec
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    --SmtpConnect
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    Failed.
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  --SendEmail
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--ChilkatLog</pre></code> [[User:Arlo|Arlo]] ([[User talk:Arlo|talk]]) 13:08, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
  
::: Everyone else only sees the 200x150 7kb image, '''EVER.'''
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== Wiki upgrade may have broken Most active graticules ==
  
I have a 16Gb HDSC card that I have in my camera. I have every single last picture I have ever taken with this camera still on this card. I have a movie of me driving from my front door at home to the front door here at my office some 42 miles away and a hour and a half drive. I have only used 5Gb of that card.  
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Hello Nathan. Most active graticules has not updated since March 29th, about the time the wiki was upgraded. I'm guessing something has broken. Most active Geohashers might need to be checked too. Thanks --[[User:Sourcerer|Sourcerer]] ([[User talk:Sourcerer|talk]]) 17:36, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
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:This isn't the first time that this has happened. --[[User:NWoodruff|NWoodruff]] ([[User talk:NWoodruff|talk]]) 18:02, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
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:I found the problem. It wiki isn't allowing me to automate the login of my bot under my id. it generates the report but doesn't allow for the upload of it. This is going to take some work. --[[User:NWoodruff|NWoodruff]] ([[User talk:NWoodruff|talk]]) 19:31, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
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::I have some bad news. There has been lots of work done to the wiki to prevent automated upload of anything, preventing people like me automating reports and uploading them with a bot. You will get to see just how good of a programmer I am... --[[User:NWoodruff|NWoodruff]] ([[User talk:NWoodruff|talk]]) 01:25, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
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:::I was able to crack it. AND it will remain secret on how it is done. --[[User:NWoodruff|NWoodruff]] ([[User talk:NWoodruff|talk]]) 02:24, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
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:::: Well done - and I like the reduced size of the report page that you introduced a while back. Thanks --[[User:Sourcerer|Sourcerer]] ([[User talk:Sourcerer|talk]]) 07:58, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
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: I think it broke again at the start of June. --[[User:Sourcerer|Sourcerer]] ([[User talk:Sourcerer|talk]]) 14:17, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
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::Yea, it is broken again. I was looking at it last night and it will need some reworking. Maybe this weekend I can get to it. --[[User:NWoodruff|NWoodruff]] ([[User talk:NWoodruff|talk]]) 19:18, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
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:::Thank you! --[[User:Q-Owl|Q-Owl]] ([[User talk:Q-Owl|talk]]) 19:44, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
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:::I found the problem last night and manually updated the page. I'll have it working automatically by this weekend.--[[User:NWoodruff|NWoodruff]] ([[User talk:NWoodruff|talk]]) 14:01, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
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::::All good. Great work. --[[User:Sourcerer|Sourcerer]] ([[User talk:Sourcerer|talk]]) 16:17, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
  
Hard drive space is cheap.
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== Most active Geohashers ==
  
I am starring at 3 U2 rack server each one of them is 2 terabytes of server space. My company purchased each one of those for $499 each.
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Most active Geohashers seems not to work, too (Last Update 4/23/2016). --[[User:Q-Owl|Q-Owl]] ([[User talk:Q-Owl|talk]]) 17:29, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
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:Could you please run [[Most active Geohashers]]? --[[User:Q-Owl|Q-Owl]] ([[User talk:Q-Owl|talk]]) 09:31, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
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::Hhmmm... I thought I fixed that. I'll have to look at it tonight. --[[User:NWoodruff|NWoodruff]] ([[User talk:NWoodruff|talk]]) 12:48, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
  
Hard drive space is ridiculously cheap. A 1 Terabyte drive is now $80[http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0307158]. That is 1 MILLION 1 megabyte images. I'll never upload 1 million images.
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I think I found a bug in the Most Active Geohashers tables. In the tables I have no expeditions past April, but in May is when I have an It's a Kitty (non-expedition, I didn't go) listed on my User-page table. It's not breaking the program(other users are counted), but isn't counting anything past April for me. [[User:Pedalpusher|Pedalpusher]] ([[User talk:Pedalpusher|talk]]) 19:44, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
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:I'll take a look at it. Thanks for the info, it is a big help. --[[User:NWoodruff|NWoodruff]] ([[User talk:NWoodruff|talk]]) 20:04, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
  
If the web master would like for me to donate a 1 TERABYTE drive to the cause as a way of a Geohash tax for my extended storage space, then have him contact me and I'll send one in just for my storage needs.
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[[Most active Geohashers]] was not updated for over one year. Do you have a script / bot for that and if yes, could you please run it? --[[User:Solli|Solli]] ([[User talk:Solli|talk]]) 11:42, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
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:Wow.. It hasn't worked in more than a year. I'm surprised no one else has pointed it out. It is supposed to run on the 1st and 15th of every month. I'll check on it tonight to see why it is broken. Thanks for pointing it out. --[[User:NWoodruff|NWoodruff]] ([[User talk:NWoodruff|talk]]) 15:04, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
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::I have found the problem as the website isn't allowing me to update via a bot. I'll update it manually today and work on changing the update page to the same way I update the Most Active Graticles--[[User:NWoodruff|NWoodruff]] ([[User talk:NWoodruff|talk]]) 17:05, 21 October 2017 (UTC)
  
But, NO. No matter what size of an image file '''anyone''' uploads, all you see is the thumbnail of that picture.
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Nathan - [[Most active Geohashers]] stopped noticing my expeditions sometime in mid-2016.  In 2014 I switched to listing my expeditions on a separate Expeditions page under my User page, and I remember that you had to make a change to your lovely map application so it could find them. Is the same sort of thing now necessary for Most active Geohashers?  If so, would you be willing? I'd be much obliged!
  
NO matter what size is uploaded only the thumbnail image is sent over the internet '''unless''' specifically requested. As a matter of fact, expeditions that have 10 pictures or so per page, use far more bandwidth that I use.
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Hi Nathan - [[Most active Geohashers]] has not noticed most of my expeditions even though most were updated a year ago.  Otherwise it is a great table. Can you please fix it? [[User:Yosef|Yosef]] ([[User talk:Yosef|talk]]) 22:11, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
  
'''So,''' if you want to complain about images and sizes, you need to complain to the groups that put far more images on their pages than I do.
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By the way, congratulations on your FOURTH Globalhash.  [[User:Mcbaneg|Mcbaneg]] ([[User talk:Mcbaneg|talk]])
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:I will add your expedition page to the list of special pages the program should look at. --[[User:NWoodruff|NWoodruff]] ([[User talk:NWoodruff|talk]]) 22:19, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
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:: Many thanks!  [[User:Mcbaneg|Mcbaneg]] ([[User talk:Mcbaneg|talk]])
  
Not only do we host our own websites, we also use a hosting company Vortech [http://www.vortechhosting.com/]. They host for us more than 500 domains with unlimited hard drive space and all that costs us is $30 a month. So, my extra 120Mb of image files isn't costing the wiki page any more money that it would if I only uploaded 200x150 thumbnail images.
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Hey Nathan, I noticed the Most active Geohashers page has been updated but my numbers have not. I have a Retro-Hash in my list before the April hashes and that's where the table stops showing my counted hashes. Anything I can do to get that fixed or is it something to do with how your scripting looks at the user pages? Thanks! [[User:Pedalpusher|Pedalpusher]] ([[User talk:Pedalpusher|talk]]) 02:03, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
  
'''And NO, I'm not hurting their servers.'''
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:Nevermind, I think I figured it out. I recall you adding an Expedition category to another issue I had and checking one of your Retro's did indeed have that Category. I've added it to my Retro page and hopefully, the next time your counter script runs, it'll pick up the rest of my expeditions. [[User:Pedalpusher|Pedalpusher]] ([[User talk:Pedalpusher|talk]]) 02:19, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
  
:Hurrah!  We had a bet on.  Several of us predicted that would be your response.  :-)  -- [[User:Benjw|Benjw]] 18:05, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
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== Most active graticules - Top 20 ==
  
:: Of what, that I would have to explain how web hosting works, for people that don't understand it?
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I have a suggestion. [[Most active graticules]] shows the top ten in the overall record. As this list is dominated by fewer than 10 graticules, how about a top twenty? While you are in wiki-mode, please could you update [[Most active Geohashers]] - if you can find a few spare minutes. Thanks! --[[User:Sourcerer|Sourcerer]] ([[User talk:Sourcerer|talk]]) 11:52, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
::: Or, that I would have to correct someone that speaks of '''nothing''' they know about? I have to do that almost every day of my job.  I get people every day claiming to be experts that actually end up knowing nothing. --[[User:NWoodruff|NWoodruff]] 18:30, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
 
::::Don't lose heart, Socrates had the same problem. --[[User:Ilpadre|ilpadre]] 18:57, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
 
:::::Fantastic... Which one of you is supplying the hemlock --[[User:NWoodruff|NWoodruff]] 19:06, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
 
  
Whether or not it causes problems for the server is not the issue here. The person who set up the wiki requests that we not upload images larger than 150kb. They didn't put a hard limit, likely so that an occasional image slightly larger than that can still be posted time and again. The person/people hosting the wiki server are gracious enough to host it for free. If you don't like the 150kb limit, then please bring it up to a moderator or the site admin. If you ask nicely, and present a good argument, they are generally quite accommodating. If, for some reason, they do not wish to raise the limit, then please abide by their requests. You can always post the full size images on your own site, and either link to them from the expedition page, or post smaller versions via the normal method and put a link in the image description.  Thanks. --[[User:Aperfectring|aperfectring]] 19:34, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
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:I have found the problem to the [[Most active Geohashers]] page. Cambridge has created a expedition page for next years Geohashing day. When I compile data I allocate memory in the program based on the number of months that has passed by since May 2008. May 2008 would equal 1, June 2008 would equal 2 and so on. I compile the data into this memory array and create enough space to calculate to the current month and year. I never assumed that someone would create a page a year into the future... [[2017-05-21_52_0 | Cambridge Geoashing day 2017]]. That killed my program and no data was ever updated. I'm still working on a fix to the program. But for now, I'm having the program skip anything from 2017, which is just a temporary fix. I had to do that to update the page to show that I now have 3, yes count them, 3 Global HASHES!!!. I will work on the program sometime soon to start it working again automatically. --[[User:NWoodruff|NWoodruff]] ([[User talk:NWoodruff|talk]]) 00:03, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
  
I have contacted the server admin about this and he has removed the warning. --[[User:Joannac|joannac]] 07:00, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
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::  3 Global HASHES!!! Wow! Congratulation! --[[User:Q-Owl|Q-Owl]] ([[User talk:Q-Owl|talk]]) 16:17, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
  
'''THANK YOU!!! [[User:Joannac|joannac]]''' --[[User:NWoodruff|NWoodruff]] 11:48, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
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== Mistake in [[Most active graticules]]! ==
  
== A sense of community ==
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Hi NWoodruff, the Most active graticules page doesn't show the results in the Coordinates reached section since 2012 since today's update. What happened?
  
Weighing in here. There seems to be a growing amount of animosity between you and parts of the community. Is there anything we can do to work this out without resorting to pointless antagonism? Whatever our reasons are for being here, surely there are better things to discuss/argue over than webservers and file sizes. [[User:Xore|Xore]] 20:32, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
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--[[User:GeorgDerReisende|GeorgDerReisende]] ([[User talk:GeorgDerReisende|talk]]) 13:02, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
  
:I deal with every day here at my work, why someone can't do their job. I listen all day to people sitting at a computer supposedly doing their job whining and complaining that they can't do their job because something that computer did. It is probably true with most companies. There is nothing wrong with their computer. They just have to give excuses to not do their job.  
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:The only thing I can think of is that the website quit giving the program data after 2012 and the program finished with the data that it had. I'll rerun the program this evening when I get home and see if there is any problem with it. --[[User:NWoodruff|NWoodruff]] ([[User talk:NWoodruff|talk]]) 13:08, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
  
:When you are the number one at something you do, other people like to whine and complain on why they can't be the number one. Just go read other comments on other pages, and read all the whining and complaining that they will never be in such a great graticule as Atlanta.
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== Expedition Archives from December 2016 (?) ==
  
:I'm tired of listening to people whining and complaining that they can't go out and geohash, or I'm cheating or I burn too much gasoline, or I have it too good.  
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Hi NWoodruff,
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<br>it seems that the Expedition Archive [[2016-12-12]], [[2016-12-14]] and [[2016-12-20]] are the last which were created. <br>Pages between them and [[2016-12-21]] with the following do not exist. :-(  Is that ok?
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<br> Best wishes for you and your family in 2017<br>Jochen --[[User:Q-Owl|Q-Owl]] ([[User talk:Q-Owl|talk]]) 16:23, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
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:Hi Q-Owl, I noticed that it quit working. I do not have anything to do with the archive pages, but my program does read them to figure out various things like "Last Man Standing" achievements. Without the archive working my reports will not work.
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:Unfortunately, I do not have anything to do with the Archive pages... :( and can not fix them.--[[User:NWoodruff|NWoodruff]] ([[User talk:NWoodruff|talk]]) 17:03, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
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::Q-Owl, I think it relates to the AperfectBot that also automates the Current events page. It's been down since Dec 7th and I posted a message on the [https://github.com/relet/pygeohashing/issues bot issues page]; aperfectring says: '' the computer which runs it is having issues right now. I hope to have it temporarily resolved in a day or two.'' That was 2 weeks ago though so I'm not sure how long it's going to be. [[User:Pedalpusher|Pedalpusher]] ([[User talk:Pedalpusher|talk]]) 15:46, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
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:::Hi Pedalpusher, may be they need a new wake up message? --[[User:Q-Owl|Q-Owl]] ([[User talk:Q-Owl|talk]]) 10:13, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
  
:I've done nothing but try to help this community and even accepted positions when I was '''volunteered''' to do work. Then all people wanted to do was bitch about what I was volunteered to do.
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== About guns... ==
  
:I've actually had enough listening to all of this. I know of what I speak about or I don't speak at all. My dad taught me that, God rest his soul.
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Hi Woodruff,
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I'm back in Israel but when I was in the United States, I tried to geohash when I discovered the challenge of private property. I could have wandered onto someone else's property without anyone there, but that might have been dangerous. How do you deal with this kind of challenge? [[User:Yosef|Yosef]] ([[User talk:Yosef|talk]]) 19:13, 31 August 2017 (UTC)
  
:If I knew for a fact that a few megabyte image files was costing someone 3 or 4 cents more a month in hosting fees, then I would have never uploaded the large image files. The sad fact is that it doesn't. Yet, people on here like to pretend they are the ''Image Police'' to find something to complain about.
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:Sorry for taking so long to answer your question. Almost everywhere in the United States is private property, unless it is a place of business. When out in the middle of nowhere, I generally look for Posted signs specifying no trespassing. Posted signs of no hunting doesn't necessarily mean no trespassing, just no hunting. When it comes to someone's property with a house on it, I generally knock on the door first to get permission and the Ambassador achievement. But if nobody is home and there is no fence in the way to reach it, I proceed with caution.  
  
:I've worked in the hosting industry for almost 5 years now. If any thing that I have done on this server is costing them even 1 cent ($0.01) more a month, they need to move to a new hosting company.
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:As for guns, most people in the US have at least one gun. I myself have a permit to carry concealed. That doesn't mean that I do. But just because we are a gun happy nation doesn't mean that we shoot first and ask questions later. You should find almost all but a very select few Americans are very polite about accessing property, especially if you ask first. Even if you don't ask and someone finds you on their property, nobody is going to shoot first ask questions later. I've ventured out to private property many times in the past. If someone comes driving up when on their property, I've given short explanations of why I am there and keep pointing at my printed out map from peeron.com. I usually get an okay at that point. I have got one request to leave the property in my almost 10 years of expeditions. I've never had a gun pointed at me or felt someone would show up with one to point at me to get me off the property.
  
:It is the people that can't do, finding things to make it a less fun place to be for all, is the ''growing amount of animosity'' that you speak of.
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:I hope that answers your question.--[[User:NWoodruff|NWoodruff]] ([[User talk:NWoodruff|talk]]) 13:23, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
  
:Someone just a few days ago, decided that they were going to change the name of '''My''' graticule and didn't even ask me. How do you think they would like it if I went and changed theirs?
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== Israel/Palestine ==
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Hi Nathan,
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Thanks for your answer on guns last year. Just recently, somebody made a page for [[Palestine]].  You might have seen that I have done several geohashes like this one: [[2018-08-09 31 35]] which are in Judea and Samaria, colloquially, the West Bank (of the Jordan River).  I've explained that because of treaties, history, and the facts on the ground that Judea and Samaria cannot be considered Palestine.  I'm requesting that you weigh in on the topic so that we can define all of the geohashes that I have done as in Israel and the only Palestine geohashes will be those inside areas ruled by the Palestinian Authority.
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Thank you,
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[[User:Yosef|Yosef]] ([[User talk:Yosef|talk]]) 16:02, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
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:Hi [[User:Yosef|Yosef]]. I have no opinion on this one way or another. Israel is not my country nor is Palestine. I am not religious so I don't have a dog in that fight either over territory. That part of the map is on the other side of the world to me, unless you are a flat earther, so I don't think my suggestions about one country or the other should mean anything. If anything, the geohashers in that area should be deciding. Someone came in to my graticule and changed Talking Rock to Roswell since Roswell was the biggest city in the graticule. I got upset since Roswell is considered Metro Atlanta and should be included by name in the Atlanta Graticule. Nobody outside of Atlanta would actually know that. [[Talk:Roswell,_Georgia]]. Going with the popular decision is usually best and I conceded to letting the Graticule being named Roswell, even though I thought the other names would be better. So, please forgive me for not weighing in as it really doesn't matter to me. This wiki is not the place to be picking fights and making enemies. We are all here to have fun. --[[User:NWoodruff|NWoodruff]] ([[User talk:NWoodruff|talk]]) 18:29, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
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:In that stream, I've done more than 95% of hashes in Israel for the last four years.  There isn't anyone else who does it here. [[User:Yosef|Yosef]] ([[User talk:Yosef|talk]])
  
:Someone else complaining on my user page, decided that my puppet geohash was not a coordinates reached and with out even consulting a sole changed it to not reached. I had to inform him that not only was he not the ''coordinates reached police'' he was even wrong in his assumptions.  
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::Hi [[User:Yosef|Yosef]]. I have done 531 geohashes, 4 Global hashes. More than anyone has done for 6 years up until recently. About half of those GeoHashes were in Talking Rock/Roswell. No a soul that voted on the change to Roswell lived in Georgia. It still remains Roswell to this day. I hope you can understand. --[[User:NWoodruff|NWoodruff]] ([[User talk:NWoodruff|talk]]) 11:46, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
  
:Someone else was complaining that my Saturday meetups where not of a correct number. I had miss counted by one. They took it upon themselves to correct my ribbon on my own personal page with out even consulting me. At the next Saturday meetup I attended, I would have caught my own mistake and changed it myself. This person had to argue with me the exact rules for Saturday meetups. Did he become the self appointed ''Saturday meetup police?'' It became so pointless of an argument with this guy that I removed myself from the Saturday meetup page [http://wiki.xkcd.com/geohashing/Xkcd_centurion_achievement].
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==Missing Pictures==
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Hi! I noticed that for some of your expeditions, you embedded pictures but never uploaded them. If you still have the pictures and would like to upload them, I would be happy.  
  
:Geohashing is supposed to be '''Fun'''. If everyone else just got out and ''Geohashed'' and quit deciding they were going to be self important there would be a lot more to this web site and Geohashing as a whole.
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The expeditions in question are:
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*[[1947-06-28 33 -84]]
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*[[1951-01-25 33 -84]]
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*[[1951-08-05 33 -84]]
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*[[1952-01-15 33 -84]]
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*[[1953-11-08 33 -84]]
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*[[1970-10-24 33 -84]]
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*[[1999-07-05 33 -84]]
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*[[2007-07-13 33 -84]]
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*[[2010-10-24 34 -85]]
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*[[2010-11-03 33 -84]]
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*[[2011-01-27 33 -84]]
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*[[2011-04-10 33 -83]]
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*[[2011-12-19 33 -84]]
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*[[2011-12-23 33 -84]]
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*[[2011-12-24 33 -84]]
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*[[2011-12-28 33 -84]]
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*[[2012-01-08 33 -84]]
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*[[2012-01-18 33 -83]]
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*[[2012-01-27 34 -84]]
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*[[2012-02-02 33 -84]]
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*[[2012-02-04 33 -84]]
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*[[2012-03-17 33 -84]]
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*[[2012-03-18 33 -84]]
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*[[2012-03-19 34 -84]]
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*[[2012-03-20 33 -84]]
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*[[2012-03-22 33 -84]]
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*[[2012-03-23 33 -84]]
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*[[2012-04-06 33 -84]]
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*[[2012-05-03 33 -84]]
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*[[2012-05-08 33 -84]]
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*[[2012-05-23 33 -84]]
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*[[2012-05-28 33 -84]]
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*[[2012-05-29 34 -84]]
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*[[2012-09-01 33 -84]]
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*[[2012-09-06 33 -84]]
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*[[2012-09-11 33 -84]]
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*[[2013-01-22 33 -84]]
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*[[2013-01-23 33 -84]]
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*[[2013-01-31 33 -84]]
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*[[2013-09-16 34 -84]]
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*[[2014-03-21 33 -84]]
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*[[2014-04-12 33 -84]]
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*[[2014-05-31 33 -84]]
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*[[2014-09-19 33 -84]]
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*[[2014-10-26 33 -84]]
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*[[2014-12-18 33 -84]]
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*[[2015-01-19 33 -84]]
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*[[2015-03-08 33 -84]]
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*[[2015-03-28 34 -84]]
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*[[2015-04-17 33 -84]]
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*[[2015-04-18 34 -84]]
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*[[2015-07-14 33 -84]]
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*[[2016-06-18 33 -84]]
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*[[2016-09-22 32 -85]]
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*[[2016-10-01 33 -83]]
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*[[2016-10-22 33 -84]]
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*[[2016-11-11 43 -79]]
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*[[2017-02-18 33 -84]]
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*[[2017-04-15 33 -84]]
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*[[2017-05-20 33 -83]]
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*[[2017-06-24 33 -84]]
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*[[2017-09-19 33 -84]]
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*[[2017-10-21 33 -84]]
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*[[2017-12-16 33 -83]]
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*[[2017-12-30 43 -79]]
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*[[2018-01-01 43 -79]]
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*[[2018-03-31 34 -83]]
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*[[2018-04-04 33 -84]]
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*[[2018-04-07 33 -84]]
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*[[2018-04-14 33 -84]]
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*[[2018-04-25 33 -84]]
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*[[2018-05-05 33 -84]]
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*[[2018-10-20 33 -84]]
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*[[2018-11-10 33 -84]]
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*[[2019-07-13 33 -84]]
  
:When you are number one, every one gets to take a swipe at you.
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--[[User:Fippe|Fippe]] ([[User talk:Fippe|talk]]) 17:35, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
  
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==Reverse regional geohash==
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There currently is a discussion regarding reverse regional geohashes, also regarding yours, and the potential establishment of an honorable mention for close cases. You might want to weigh in [[Talk:Reverse regional achievement#Honorable mention proposal|here]]. --[[User:Fippe|Fippe]] ([[User talk:Fippe|talk]]) 18:14, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
  
::<blockquote>Geohashing is supposed to be '''Fun'''. If everyone else ... quit deciding they were going to be self important...</blockquote>
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==2023-03-09 global==
::<blockquote>When you are number one, every one gets to take a swipe at you.</blockquote>
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{{egl|2023-03-09|global|text=Tomorrow's Globalhash}} is in your state! --[[User:Fippe|Fippe]] ([[User talk:Fippe|talk]]) 14:37, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
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::::(oh, and for the record, it's called [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tall_poppy_syndrome tall poppy syndrome]) --[[User:MykaDragonBlue|mykaDragonBlue &#91;- i have no sig -&#93;]] 22:46, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
 
  
::Yeah, I think we all know the feeling. -- [[User:relet|relet]] 12:57, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
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== Map ==
  
::I for the most part stay to myself. I don't go bothering people because I don't like them to bother me. I went poking around a bit and did notice that I am not the only one that gets hassled by the self important people here. Never ever have I posted on someone else page. Well except may be for Robyn. But I sure haven't hassled her about anything. So, if you are in the mood to hassle someone over something trivial or you like to make up stuff to become self important, go bother Robyn or [[User:ReletBot|ReletBot]] instead. '''Thanks''' --[[User:NWoodruff|NWoodruff]] 02:11, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
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Hi. Is user adventure map working still? I can't see my [http://xkcd.nathanwoodruff.com/GooMapXKCDKlucken.htm new expeditions] in 2023 on [[51,17]].
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[[User:Klucken|Klucken]] ([[User talk:Klucken|talk]]) 00:13, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 00:13, 25 October 2023

Picture of your graticule. Did you take it? -Robyn 15:56, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

No, I stole it from my local radio station. Someone from 96.1 FM took the picture and posted it on the radio stations web site. I had it as my desktop of my computer for a while. There were a number of tornado pictures that people uploaded, but I thought that one was the best.


Image file sizes

I have contacted the server admin about this and he has removed the warning. --joannac 07:00, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

THANK YOU!!! joannac --NWoodruff 11:48, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

is there a reason this tiny part of the conversation was kept when the context for it was cleaned? --mykaDragonBlue [- i have no sig -] 00:55, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
Ooh, I can answer this one! Because it's the only place on the wiki where joanna's brave appeal to the server admin is documented, and others might be interested in the repeal. -Robyn 04:15, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

2008-05-24 34 -84

Hi, just cleaning out the wiki and looking for some clarification. You say you were around then, and it never happened. Does that mean you were at the point (in which case, you can probably claim it)? If you weren't, then how do you know it never happened? Or am I misinterpreting your statement. Thanks, --joannac 00:44, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

I remember this time last year that I was e-mailing with someone that lived in Smyrna about geohashing in the now Roswell and he told me that he had been trying to organize an expedition in that graticule but nothing had formed as of yet. It was about a week or two before my first geohash on 2008-06-22. I'm assuming that meant that the 2008-05-24 was a planning page to mean that no movement was to mean no group was formed to find the geohash point. --NWoodruff 12:24, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Are you sure it's the same person? I think the fact there's a time on the page indicates someone was there at the time, and the "no movement" is referring to there being no activity at the hashpoint (i.e. no other hashers). --joannac 12:38, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
No I can't be sure. But since I do work in that graticule, I was interested in making an effort to find a geohash in this graticule. I don't even remember his name. I gave someone else my e-mail address from the Atlanta group and someone else gave it to him because I was interested and worked close to where he lived. I don't have any e-mails from that far back or I would look it up. I do remember him saying to me that he had been trying to get a group together for a month now. That would have been about the time of that entry and the saying "No movement". --NWoodruff 16:31, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Anonymous editing

Hey, there's some discussion going on about spam and what to do (which will probably affect anonymous editing). Since you do a lot of anonymous editing you should probably add your opinion. Discussion is here. --joannac 12:56, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Be the first to Geohash on the Moon

Technically, I believe this would be lunahashing. --starbird 23:44, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Haha, that is a good goal, number 19. I hope it will actually be possible within our lifetimes. I sometimes go on Google Moon just to see where some of the geohashes would be. Like starbird, i also refer to it as lunarhashing! :) -- sermoa 18:16, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

It might be interesting to check if accidental lunahashing weren't made by one of Apollo expeditions or unmanned lunar probes. The same could be possible on Mars - it would be areohashing. Should we create "Virgin planet" achievement for them? Felinator 14:09, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Globalhash

The globalhash for Tuesday is on an Augusta, Georgia road or joint driveway. This is EXTREMELY reachable. We need to find a local hasher! --Bill^2 15:59, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Actually it is in South Carolina. But I do think it is going to be attempted. --NWoodruff 16:14, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Atlanta, Georgia

Fwiw, the hash really does fall on the southern edge of the road, the name of the road is Connell, and i thought the original phrasing was a bit awkward. Do you disagree with any of these three statements? -- Yours, CrystyB 17:13, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

+/- 30 feet means middle of the road is close enough. If I do a speed racer achievement today, it will be in the middle of the road. I never said anything about the name of the road and it is east of Union City, Georgia.
Are you going to make that geohash today? Why should you care?
My other partner in crime, Luxmundi, might read the front page and see middle of the road and want to attempt it. His iPhone is +/- 150 feet. It might give him a reason to attempt it. --NWoodruff 17:33, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
Points taken. Although, in my defense: deleting that name might be interpreted as "thumbs down" (quote)about the name of the road(un-quote). As for the east/south-east, the map i saw placed the Union City name directly north-west of the hash.
Not that you should care, but i wanted to know whether i did it wrong and to find an appropriate wiki-editing mindset.
If by "front page" you mean browser starting page, i agree that my phrasing would get a bit more visibility than i imagined, but otherwise i see no connection between it and the Main Page.
Anyway, thanks for the clarifications, and hope you'll nail this one today. -- CrystyB 17:48, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
Front page I was referring to is the Atlanta Front page. Wiki-editing mindset is stick to your own graticule, that is unless you have been here for years or have 100 or so geohashes.
Todays geohash will be my 200th geohash.--NWoodruff 18:14, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Re: Breakin

NWoodruff: Sorry to hear about your truck, camera, and GPS unit. I hope your finances allow a speedy return to the sport. In the meantime, it won't be the same around here without you. --aperfectring 03:44, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

NWoodruff: Sorry to hear about the breakin. I went to school in ATL (as you may be able to surmise) and I've had vehicles broken into on several occasions. I've been reading a lot of your expeditions since my introduction to geohashing last week. I hope that you are able to begin hashing in earnest again soon. In the meantime, I'd love to read about some No Batteries Geohash attempts. ;) Ramblingwreck 04:47, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Newark NJ in July

Kyukket has two successful geohashes on the 24th and 25th, bringing the number of expeditions this month to three. Two others were planned but not attempted.

Okay, thanks. Did they not show up on the most active page? --NWoodruff 14:32, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
I don't know. I created the pages for him, and I must have missed the categories at first. I went back after a couple of days, so they slipped -through the cracks. --Jevanyn 16:52, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

People youd like to hash with

Make sure you hit me up if you ever come to NZ! Greenslime 21:52, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Atlanta = Most Active 01/2011

Congratulations on the Most Active Graticule Achievement 01/2011 for Atlanta. If you hadn't waited to document the latest three expeditions until the 1st of februrary the good people of 50,8 would have had a chance to at least try and beat you by doing just one more expedition in their own graticule ... ah well, better luck next time :(( - Mampfred 09:57, 1 February 2011 (EST)

That is the reason why you need to get out and Geohash every chance you get. I didn't know if you guys were going to Geohash another one, so, I did every Geohash that I could. If you are going to beat Atlanta, it will take some fun Geohash work. --NWoodruff 13:35, 1 February 2011 (EST)
You're missing the point. It's just particularly frustrating if you're about to grab the achievement and suddenly three more expeditions, all for the same graticule (and still lacking a proper report and photos ;), are popping up unexpectedly ... let's look at this the other way round: you maybe wouldn't have done and I quote "every Geohash that I could" because "I didn't know if you guys were going to Geohash another one" if it had taken us two weeks to document our expeditions. Sure, I could have held back some of our documentation too but that doesn't seem right. That takes the competition fun out of it for me, so I'll go for other achievements from now on and leave that particular one to you and/or Atlanta. And I'll quit whining now. - Mampfred 13:59, 1 February 2011 (EST)
That is just the way it happens. Take this expedition as an example, 2009-12-02 -37 144. I had a last man standing achievement for more than 3 months. Someone came around and filed a report 3 months(not 5 days) later with out any pictures or proof, my last man standing is now gone. Oh well, I'll just try harder for another one. The 3 expeditions in question are only 4 days apart. Not every one files reports on the same day. I don't have my camera with me today or I would upload the pictures. I'll get to it in the next few days. Most people go a month or more before uploading pictures.
If you look at the list of Overall Record for Most Coordinates Reached with 9 or more Coordinates Reached a month, there are two other Graticules on the list, and they each have only 1 entry. Atlanta has 12 entries on that list. I knew that if I wanted the Most Active Graticule for the month, I needed to have at least 10. If you want to be the Most active for the month, be the most active that you can be, and don't depend on a list to just be one better than the next guy. Being 1 better than the next guy doesn't mean a thing. Be at it the best you can be and then take the award. There are months in 2009 where I had TRIPLE the number of geohashes than the next closest graticule. Not just 1 more than the next best graticule but 3 times as many.
I actually expanded the Overall Record from the Top 3 to Top 10 so other graticules would appear in the list.
I enjoy the Hell out of Geohashing. I'm not in it anymore for the record. I've got most of them. I'm in it for the incredible fun that it has turned out to be. If that makes me the most active every time because nobody else in the world sees this sport as fun and only something to have a record at then "Oh Well". If I was in it for only the record, I would have stopped almost 2 years ago. I set the most in one month nearly 2 years ago.
I've set my sights now on being the Most Active Globalhasher. I now want a total of 2 Global Hashes. 1 Globalhash is never enough. My second feat will be Consecutive Global Hashes. I'm not doing it for the record, I'm doing it because of the thrill of it. Because someone has attached a record to it means nothing to me. --NWoodruff 14:54, 1 February 2011 (EST)

Most Active Pages

Great work with the most active pages. But since it's starting to be a dozen updates a day, it's kinda spamming the RecentChanges. How about creating a new user to do the updates and get it flagged as a bot so the updates don't show up in the list unless you're explicitely looking for them? Just a thought. - Mampfred 09:08, 15 July 2011 (EDT)

How do I flag my userid as a bot?? --NWoodruff 09:53, 15 July 2011 (EDT)

I believe an Admin needs to turn on the Bot bit. However, you might also consider not updating more than once a month, say, some of the pages. I doubt the Antarctic region is changing very soon... Jiml 10:35, 15 July 2011 (EDT)

I created a bot account but I don't know who to speak to, to get it set as a bot. My program that I wrote will say if there is activity in the current month. I thought about updating it that way. The ocean graticules will probably never get any activity either but, I wanted to do them to show that there was no activity.
What my program doesn't say is if there was activity since the last update, which means if Asia only has one Expedition this month that I would more than likely be updating it all month even though there was only one entry.
I've been doing the page update now every day for the last 2 years manually, meaning I run my program, log on to this website and copy by hand the data. I've only missed a day or two in 2 years. I haven't decided yet if I want to do the regional pages every day yet since this is only the third day I've been doing it. I may just decide to do them once a month anyway.
I anyway created a new user...NWoodBot. --NWoodruff 10:55, 15 July 2011 (EDT)
Well if you're doing the updates manually I wouldn't bother using a bot account as sooner or later you're probably going to be using the wrong one and it's even messier than before (no offense, would happen to anyone). But you should probably consider automating the updates to save you a lot of time ... and only then move it to the bot account. - Mampfred 11:01, 15 July 2011 (EDT)

Hi NWoodruff. I was just looking at the Most active graticules table. Thanks for keeping it updated. I noticed that graticule 52,0 (Cambridge, UK) correctly appears at #19 in the table, with 63 expeditions. However, graticule 52,-0 (Northampton, UK) also appears as "Cambridge, UK" (joint #46 with 26 expeditions). Similarly, 51,0 (London East) and 51,-0 (London West) both appear as "London East, UK". In both cases I suspect the program you use to compile the stats is treating "-0" as if it were "0", so it's a bit of an obscure error which only appears for a few graticules west of the prime meridian. Is there any chance, though, that you might be able to fix this? Many thanks. — Benjw  {talk} 09:31, 22 August 2012 (EDT)

Fixed... Thanks for pointing out the error to me. --NWoodruff 10:23, 25 August 2012 (EDT)
Splendid! Looks great. Thanks again for taking the time to do that. — Benjw  {talk} 13:38, 25 August 2012 (EDT)

Hi! Thank you for your "Most Active Graticules" pages. I'd like however to bring to your attention the question we asked here: Talk:Asia_Most_Active_Graticules. It's about (mis)placement of "Moscow, Russia" graticule into "Asia" category. Could you please consider moving it to "Europe" or explaining why it should stay in "Asia"? vb (talk) 04:24, 31 August 2013 (EDT)

For history. The source for the list of gaticules is this page: All_graticules/Eurasia. Moved some graticules from Asia to Europe, but list is still imperfect. Gonna consider it later. vb (talk) 13:37, 31 August 2013 (EDT)

On the Most active graticules page, the Coordinates reached data seems to be present twice. There is an up-to-date version and after that an older version, dated 6/26/2015, that might need to be removed manually - or am I missing something. Thanks for this interesting page! --Sourcerer (talk) 07:41, 20 July 2015 (EDT)

You are correct, it needed to be removed manually. It appears that the tag for ==Coordinates reached== was changed somehow. My program didn't see the correct tag and created another one. It is fixed now. --NWoodruff (talk) 10:06, 20 July 2015 (EDT)
Thanks --Sourcerer (talk) 21:43, 21 July 2015 (EDT)

It's Sourcerer moaning again and perhaps making a confession. The Most active graticules page now has Expeditions twice and no Coordinates reached. If your code references numbered sections, I have probably broken it by removing the Ribbon template section. If you refer to sections by name it's most likely not me. I have been cleaning up all the Achievements pages, some of which had become a bit chaotic. The ribbon template links are now the first item on the page, not sunk under hundreds of links to winners. At the same time, I sorted out other problems like missing categories, missing documentation and a few missing templates. Apologies if I have broken your code. --Sourcerer (talk) 10:08, 23 July 2015 (EDT)

Yep... You broke it. It has worked well without touching it for 5 year, AND... you broke it. Back to the drawing board. --NWoodruff (talk) 20:57, 25 July 2015 (EDT)
15 minutes of code rewrite fixed it.--NWoodruff (talk) 21:06, 25 July 2015 (EDT)
Oops - sorry! I hope it was worth it though. The achievements pages are more consistent and user friendly now.

Map of Graticules

Hey NWoodruff

First, thanks for the map of my hashes. Just wondering, can you tell me how often it updates, and how I can convince it that one of my hashes was a virgin hash so it comes up with a pretty white marker? In otherwords, what are the inputs required to generate the map? Cheers Greenslime 00:08, 9 August 2011 (EDT)

Hi Greenslime. I update it manually when I see that there are additions to the list. I haven't noticed any updates in Auckland lately so I haven't looked to see if you had Geohashed lately. You are right that I did miss that one of your geohashes was a Virgin Hash. I did fix it.
You can view the source of the map by right clicking on the map and then select "View Source".
if you look at the source and look for the procedure call named "addPlace", that is where all the markers are added to the map. You can add new markers by copying one of the lines and pasting it in a new line. You would need to correct the information in the new line to reflect the new Geohash. Lines can be added in any order that you like, but I like to add newest geohashes at the bottom of the list. That way the oldest is at the top and newest is at the bottom.
The list of color markers is right below the last "addPlace" procedure call, with 7 being the number for "Virgin Graticule Award". The color of the marker depends on the number at the end of the procedure call "addPlace".
I host your list on my own web storage space. Once you view the source of your map, you can store your source code to your own web space that wiki.xkcd.com can see, or send me your new source code of your map in an email and I'll upload it to my own personal web space.
If you have any other questions you can always send me an email or leave me a message here.

Hey, I just wanted to stop by and say THANKS for the map of the hashes! :) Cheers, Onicofago

Javascript for graticule map

Hey y'all!

I'm hacking a bit on an Erlang solution that calculates all retro hashes around your location and maps it. Right now I have borrowed your javascript code for mapping Greenslime's adventuresbut in order for me to release the code I need to know the author and licence of that javascript. So right now my erlang code has cached all DJIA and calculates all retro hashes from 1928-10-01 until now in about a second and then outputs javascript with arrows for all hashes.

You can see an example output here. Right now it is just a the static output of one run of my program but I'm planning to do it interactive so you easily can get all retros around you. So what I need now is Author and licence of the javascript.

Take care. --Cjk 15:36, 8 February 2012 (EST)

I wrote it. I used the examples from googles map api. But I wrote everything else. --NWoodruff 15:45, 8 February 2012 (EST)
if you want something that maps retro hashes for you, I have already written code for that more than 2 years ago. --NWoodruff 15:46, 8 February 2012 (EST)
Oh cool, can I release it as GPL? I kinda have a very good implementation already. Does all retros in less than a second. I just need to make it work for negative numbers and especially -0. --Cjk 19:58, 9 February 2012 (EST)
Do with it what you like. --NWoodruff 08:07, 10 February 2012 (EST)

Noob just up the road

Nathan - I am a noob who lives up the road from you in Bethlehem. Can you email me? I have a question for you.

1958-08-03 50 6

On the 50,6 page, you suggest the 1958-08-03 retrohash. Hijackal was 40 m north of that hash in 2010, racing down the Nürburgring on his bike. He has neither tracklog nor pictures of the hashsite though - every gram of weight counts. There might be general proof of having completed several laps of the Nordschleife, though. --Hijackal 23:04, 13 April 2012 (EDT)


2010-02-07 59 16

I don't quite understand the edit of 2010-02-07 59 16. It went beyond planning to an actual expedition, we were there but didn't complete. The ru 18:12, 23 August 2012 (EDT)

The tag at the bottom says that you didn't attempt. I read that tag and added the planning part. If it is wrong, you can change the tags. --NWoodruff 18:14, 23 August 2012 (EDT)
Yeah, I added it back. No big deal, I just was a bit confused. The ru 18:18, 23 August 2012 (EDT)
for the most active graticle report page to function correctly, I need a category of planning, reached or not reached. I'm updating all pages to have one of those categories --NWoodruff 18:20, 23 August 2012 (EDT)

RE: Atlanta Colleges!

Tempting, for sure. I'll have to look into it. Most active graticle in TEH WORLD? That would be juuuust fine by me.

-quietly adds Atlanta to shortlist-

Although it would be pretty hard to explain the decision to family and friends. Oh well!

SamBurge 23:37, 31 January 2013 (EST)

Interactive Google map

Hi Nathan

Thanx for coding this nice little gimmick. Unfortunately it doesn't work for me, might be because of the underline in my user name..? Cheers

--Chris 47 8 (talk) 03:12, 31 January 2014 (EST)

Nathan,

Thanks - this is sweet.

I tried to look up the map for JMuonio but couldn't see it. Am I supposed to be able to see anyone's but yours and mine?

-George

Mcbaneg (talk) 23:11, 22 February 2014 (EST)

this really looks brilliant & thanks for doing this. I could look up several users (tested 5 succeeded 3). ALso the map for me did not show up, so most of it works, but not yet everything? -JW JwB

Interesting - For me it shows only two out of nearly 150 expeditions. I have made my own based on a hand-crafted KML file here. This is a really nice idea if you can get it working properly. Sourcerer (talk) 17:34, 8 August 2014 (EDT)Soucerer

Sourcerer (talk) 05:02, 10 August 2014 (EDT)Sourcerer: Ah of course. I am listing my expeditions in a non-standard way as there are so many of them. I assumed you were searching Category: Expeditions but perhaps there is no easy/efficient way to identify the participants from there. I wonder if that could be retro-fitted into the wiki. I don't think you should code a solution, only for me, unless it generalises to all users.


Sourcerer (talk) 08:48, 11 August 2014 (EDT)Sourcerer: Thanks. I spotted your awesome activity level soon after I first signed up for the Wiki. I only manage one or two a month and usually by car:(

Nathan - the interactive map for me was working beautifully, but in June 2014 I switched my expedition list to an APerfectBot-generated one at User:Mcbaneg/Expeditions. It doesn't appear that the map-bot has figured that out, and no expeditions since then have showed up. Is there a way for me to point it at my list? If not, could I trouble you to do it? Thank you - it's a lovely addition to the wiki. --Mcbaneg (talk) 15:24, 24 August 2014 (EDT)

You made an entry on my page pointing out that you have pointed the map-bot at my expedition page. I want to thank you here where people are more likely to see it! Thanks - the maps add lots of interest and fun to this oddball hobby we share.--Mcbaneg (talk) 19:12, 27 August 2014 (EDT)


I asked in the Breaking News section but didn't realize there was a section here on the Interactive map(which is really sweet, btw). It doesn't look like this is updating any longer for me. My map has all my hashes from Aug but none from Sept. Looking at the notes above, I may have broken it for myself with my new expedition report layout on my page. Can you take a look and see please? Pedalpusher (talk) 11:04, 9 October 2014 (EDT)

You are correct that it stopped working for you. It has to do in the way that I search through html tables. Not only did it not work for you there were other people that it didn't work for either. it is now fixed. --NWoodruff (talk) 15:41, 9 October 2014 (EDT)
Thanks it's good now, and again, great contribution. Pedalpusher (talk) 12:45, 10 October 2014 (EDT)


Hey Nathan - found a minor bug in the map. I was the only one to report an expedition on 2015-10-08 but I did not make it to the hash. You might want to add a check for Coords reached when checking for the Last Man Standing flag. Pedalpusher (talk) 13:15, 12 January 2015 (EST)

Minor bug - me too. I failed to reach the coordinates on 2010-12-25_52_0 so should probably not gain "Last Man Standing" --Sourcerer (talk) 11:47, 13 January 2015 (EST)
Minor bug of Last Man Standing on Coordinates not reached has been fixed. It should be just a Not Reached Flag from now on. --NWoodruff (talk) 19:29, 15 April 2015 (EDT)


Is the map not updating lately? I don't have any new hashmarks(6 expeditions missing) on my map since my expedition on Mouse-over day (May 23rd). I checked and your 2015-05-30 expedition isn't on your map either... Pedalpusher (talk) 14:55, 9 June 2015 (EDT)

It is set to update every Monday and Thursday. I'll check the server to make sure it is still scheduled to run. --NWoodruff (talk) 21:09, 9 June 2015 (EDT)
Actually I am going to blame Calamus on this problem. His expedition on 2015-05-20 did not have a map in the page write up. There was no coordinates so the program exited. I have now coded for the error condition and skip that days event. But, I did fix Calamus's page. I'll set the map program to run again tonight.
I have checked today and all user maps are up to date. --NWoodruff (talk) 19:22, 11 June 2015 (EDT)
Hmmmm...looks like my map is still missing my last 6 expeditions. Can you please check my map when you get a chance? Thanks. Pedalpusher (talk) 09:28, 12 June 2015 (EDT)
I'm looking at the file of your map now. Updated at 2015-06-11_02:54am EDT. You should be good to go. Have you tried clearing your browser cache? <ctrl>R???--NWoodruff (talk) 13:11, 12 June 2015 (EDT)
Yep, that must have been it. My map is updated. Pedalpusher (talk) 12:10, 15 June 2015 (EDT)


Thank you very much for these nice maps!!
Could you please update Q-Owla's? The hashpoints of 2016-02-29 50 8 and later are missing.
--Q-Owl (talk) 12:19, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

Raw Wiki Data

Hi Nathan - How do you harvest the wiki data to compile your maps and statistics? I'm interested in, and have some coding aptitude including SQL. Can I get hold of the relevant wiki tables? I assume they're regularly backed up somewhere. --Sourcerer (talk) 11:18, 30 January 2015 (EST)

Thanks for the pointer to your code. I'll have a good look at this.

Out-hash the world

In January I made 20 expeditions. All the other geohashers in the world totalled only 13 (numbers subject to late reports). I'm guessing that you also, have out-hashed the world during your busy history. Do you think this is worth a ribbon? I have proposed one here and would appreciate your thoughts. --Sourcerer (talk) 09:06, 1 February 2015 (EST)

OK I can't count and this is complete rubbish. It was fun while I was in fantasy-math land though! I still wonder if anyone has managed this though. --Sourcerer (talk) 09:50, 1 February 2015 (EST)
Since there are only 30 or 31 days in a month, not counting Feburary, if the world geohashed more than 30/31 times, this would be unavailable/unattainable. --NWoodruff (talk) 10:01, 4 February 2015 (EST)
I grabbed six hashpoints in one day this January, taking advantage of the Grenwich meridian mirror effect. If that could be repeated several times, I'd be in the running but it's pretty unlikely.
On the other hand Atlanta has out Geohashed all other graticules for 4 years in a row. I doubt any other graticule will ever do that again. --NWoodruff (talk) 10:03, 4 February 2015 (EST)
If someone gets onto the international news, geohashing and it goes viral, there might be an order of magnitude increase in geohashing. We need something like "dolphin rescues boy at the marine hashpoint" or "dog rescues human who fell down the well at the hashpoint". Maybe there will be some coordinates that are so cool, it generates a flash mob. Then all records would be up for grabs. --Sourcerer (talk) 11:12, 23 July 2015 (EDT)

Slight map problem

Hi Nathan - I see two problems with the map GooMapXKCDthomcat.htm -- 1) Coordinates for expedition 194 are incorrect, and match the peeron inset on the expedition page. This is incorrect; I have posted about it on the implementations page. 2) The coordinates for 195 and 196 are correct, but no marker is appearing on the map. 194 appears in the improper location (but matches the expedition), 193 and before are correct and match the expedition. Let me know if I can help debug things, and thanks! --Thomcat (talk) 23:45, 14 April 2015 (EDT)

Curiously, the second problem is now gone. Perhaps there is a local cache problem? The code looks unchanged to me. I am pushing on the IRC for the first problem to be solved, because I bet it will be a problem next year also (and perhaps this fall). Will you have to update the coords manually for between DST dates? --Thomcat (talk) 09:43, 15 April 2015 (EDT)
The first problem is related to XKCD's website as there is no recorded Dow Jones open data for Mar 24 2015. Per Yahoo the open is 18,102.50 for that date. It would take forever and a day to generate the map pages if I had to read the opening data for every expedition. So, I just get the coordinates off of the expedition page. Get the website to fix the coordinates for that day and your map marker will be in the correct place next time I create map pages for everyone.
As for the second problem, it was probably a local cache because the current map I have for you was generated at 4/13/2015 at 3:39am edt.
As for DST dates, I don't think it makes a difference on the algorithm of how the coordinates are calculated. The hour of the day makes no difference to the algorithm. I think it has more to do with the website having bad data due to how Google changed how it displays the Dow opening the beginning of the month.
Gotcha, thanks --Thomcat (talk) 21:37, 15 April 2015 (EDT)

Counting hashers

Hi Nathan, I like the idea to automate the counting of the active hashers. But the automated list is incomplete. It only shows 68 hashers. There must be more than 100, aren't there? I miss 3 (Pastori, Eldin, and LucasBrown) of the most active hashers in the last two years (according to Mystrsyko). I'll list some of my expeditions that are missing on the interactive map to help to find the error:

DODO (talk)

The reason why those expeditions are not showing on the automated most active list is because those are not listed on your user page. List them on your user page and they will show up next time.
I read the active users page to get a list of active users. I do that for the maps because no need to regenerate user maps if they have no activity. I currently use the data generated from the user maps program to spit out the automated list. I will come up with a better way but I wanted to automate the list and that way only took about 30 minutes of programming to get that list.--NWoodruff (talk) 13:56, 17 April 2015 (EDT)
Ok, that explains, why several users are missing. But I'm not convinced with the explanation of my counted expeditions. I put ALL expeditions of 2014 on an archive page, so why are some expeditions counted but others not. OK, there were 3 or 4 meetups, which were also visited by other users, but these never count up to 22. DODO (talk)
They are not showing because they are on an archive page. I will add your archive page to the map generation program so they are included.--NWoodruff (talk) 15:39, 17 April 2015 (EDT)

Target 22, Mercury

Just visit the terminator. It's cool enough round the back. There must be a Goldilocks temperature point! --Sourcerer (talk) 11:34, 1 June 2015 (EDT)

That would be great if the hash landed there at the time of my visit but it probably won't. More than likely the hash would end up on the sun facing side. --NWoodruff (talk) 13:48, 5 June 2015 (EDT)

South America Most Active Graticules

Hi Nathan! Any chance this page could be updated? I think my home graticule should be #1 now :) --Onicofago (talk) 22:58, 4 June 2015 (EDT)

There seems to be a new feature added to the website that starts rejecting edits after 15 edits in short succession. If you notice, your continent is the last one. XKCD starts rejecting my inserts after the Artic ocean. I'll have to see what I can do to fix the problem. But for now I have manually copied the data to the website. --NWoodruff (talk) 13:43, 5 June 2015 (EDT)
Strange behavior, isn't it? Thanks for doing it manually, Nathan, it must be a pain... --Onicofago (talk) 17:29, 7 June 2015 (EDT)

ambassador help sheets

Hi Nathan!
Today I found the ambassador help sheets (de, en-gb, en-us). The map and date on it refers to 2008-09-24. :-(
Is it possible to build pages (not solid images), where the actual data is shown and from which users can copy and paste it (e. g. into word)?
--Q-Owl (talk) 06:13, 29 October 2015 (EDT)

Yes, it is possible and shouldn't be that difficult for an experienced programmer. --NWoodruff (talk) 22:01, 29 October 2015 (EDT)
Oh... Were you asking me if I could do this? --NWoodruff (talk) 02:22, 9 February 2016 (EST)
Hmm, yes. That would be nice. And I could send you the German translation for the German version.
Okay, you have twisted my arm... I'll look into it. --NWoodruff (talk) 14:46, 31 March 2016 (UTC)
Ups, I forgot, that the german text exists. But one passage should be corrected a little bit:
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Beispiel: Die Abbildung zeigt das Gebiet Nord 50° / Ost 8°, in dem Frankfurt liegt. Es hat die Koordinaten 50° bis 51° nördlicher Breite und 8° bis 9° östlicher Breite. Die Markierung zeigt den Zielpunkt, der für den 02.04.2016 gültig ist.

Der heutige Zielpunkt für dieses Gebiet liegt zufälligerweise auf Ihrem Grundstück. Die Wahrscheinlichkeit dafür war weniger als 0,00001%.

Falls Sie dieses Spiel interessiert, oder Sie (bzw. jemand, den Sie kennen) in Zukunft mitspielen wollen, besuchen Sie uns im Internet: ... ...
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And can you make the graticule variable too? Eg. that a sheet 2016-04-02 49 8 arises with the matching Graticule-Name (here Mannheim). This would be the ambassador-swiss-army-knife. ;-)
--Q-Owl (talk) 12:57, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

Most active graticules - counting bug/feature

Hello again. I have found an interesting counting problem with "Most active graticules". If both "coordinates reached" and "coordinates not reached" are present, the expedition gets counted twice. There are more details on that talk page. --Sourcerer (talk) 06:57, 3 January 2016 (EST)

And Europe_Most_Active_Graticules had its last update on 6/5/2015 5:17:57 PM UTC. The year 2015 is not in the first table anyway. --Burgman (talk) 14:29, 9 February 2016 (EST)

Your Notification System

Hi NWoodruff, I have a few questions for you. I just signed up and was setting up a notification for the global hash, but the distance to specify doesn't have units associated with it. Does it use miles or Km? Also, do you notify for everything over the weekend/holidays on Friday(or the day before) or does it go once a day for that day? When I click on the Help button, I get logged off rather than helped. :( Lastly, anywhere I can update/change my password(this isn't a big deal, just curious)? Thanks. Pedalpusher (talk) 16:48, 8 February 2016 (EST)

Hi Pedalpusher. As I am not from a metric country, one of the last remaining hold outs, we view the entire world in miles. So, unfortunately you get the notification emails in miles, however useless of a measurement that is for you. Maybe I should put in some type of switch between miles/kilometers. I bet somewhere on the internet is the formula for miles to kilometers, however useless kilometers is.
As for weekends, since I know Fridays, Saturdays, and Sundays, location Friday morning, you get those days locations Friday morning unless you are east of w30, in which you get Saturdays, Sundays, and Mondays.
Also since I am the laziest of web developers, there is no help system on my Notify web app. AND unfortunately if you hit the help button, the only thing you get is logged off. So, word of warning.... don't hit the help button.
As for changing the password, there is no way to change it. If you would like to change it, send me your new password in a personal email. You can find my email address over there <-- in the "Email this user" link. I don't store the password encrypted on my server and thus the reason why is it only random letters. Inversely, if you forget your password, since it is only random letters and not encrypted, I can email the forgotten password to you.
I hope that helps--NWoodruff (talk) 02:21, 9 February 2016 (EST)
Very helpful, thanks. And while the best solution would be to code in a mi/km switch, the easy solution would probably just be to display the units in miles(which I am also very familiar with). ;) Pedalpusher (talk) 09:29, 9 February 2016 (EST)

Hi NWoodruff,
thank you very much for the notification program which sends the daily emails! But where can I change the settings (coordinates, radius) a little bit?
Best regards. --Q-Owl (talk) 19:18, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

Hi Q-Owl. The only way to change coordinates and radii is to delete the one that needs to be changed and add another entry with the correct information. It is probably not the answer you wanted to hear but is an answer that will work.
Where can I do that? At http://xkcd.nathanwoodruff.com/Notify.aspx ? If so I forgot my pasword.  :-(
Yes, that is where you would do it. I have also sent you an email with an updated password. --NWoodruff (talk) 14:44, 31 March 2016 (UTC)
Thank you!! --Q-Owl (talk) 20:03, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

So, from text above it looks likt the unit of "Maximum Notify Distance" is miles? Can you confirm? I put there "5000" thinking it was meters. Thanks. MGitsfullofsheep (talk) 05:21, 17 November 2016 (UTC)

Maximum notify distance is in miles. But a maximum notify distance of 0 is unlimited miles --NWoodruff (talk) 14:33, 17 November 2016 (UTC)

Notify server's hard drive failed yesterday before the Dow open. The program was not able to run. I purchased a new hard drive on my way home from work yesterday and started the restore process last night. The notify program restore should be complete before the Dow opens this morning. Sorry for no notification yesterday. --NWoodruff (talk) 13:27, 22 February 2017 (UTC)


I tried to sign up without success:

ChilkatLog:
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    Username: CHRISROOM:xkcd.nathanwoodruff.com
    Architecture: Little Endian; 32-bit
    Language: .NET 2.0
    recipients:
      TO: [email]
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    renderToMime:
      createEmailForSending:
        xSigningAlg: sha1
        Auto-generating Message-ID
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      renderToMime: Elapsed time: 16 millisec
    --renderToMime
    SmtpConnect:
      SmtpHost: smtp.sendgrid.net
      SmtpPort: 587
      SmtpUsername: NathanWoodruff
      SmtpSsl: 0
      StartTLS: 0
      Need new SMTP connection
      checkForExistingConnection: Elapsed time: 0 millisec
      SMTP_Connect:
        Connecting to SMTP server smtp.sendgrid.net:587
        smtp_host: smtp.sendgrid.net
        smtp_port: 587
        smtp_user: NathanWoodruff
        ConnectTimeoutMs_1: 30000
        calling ConnectSocket2
        IPV6 enabled connect with NO heartbeat.
        connectingTo: smtp.sendgrid.net
        Resolving domain name (IPV4) via gethostbyname
        GetHostByNameHB_ipv4: Elapsed time: 31 millisec
        maxTimeMs_connect: 30000
        myIP_1: 192.168.3.41
        myPort_1: 52379
        connect successful (1)
        socketConnect: Elapsed time: 46 millisec
        InitialResponse: 220 SG ESMTP service ready at geopod-ismtpd-6-2

        initialResponse: Elapsed time: 32 millisec
        sendingHello: EHLO ChrisRoom

        sendEhlo: Elapsed time: 0 millisec
        helloResponse: 250-smtp.sendgrid.net
250-8BITMIME
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250-SIZE 31457280
250-STARTTLS
250-AUTH PLAIN LOGIN
250 AUTH=PLAIN LOGIN

        helloResponse: Elapsed time: 31 millisec
        login_method: LOGIN
        535 Authentication failed: Bad username / password
        Failed to get response to login password
        ConnectionLog:
          220 SG ESMTP service ready at geopod-ismtpd-6-2
EHLO ChrisRoom
250-smtp.sendgrid.net
250-8BITMIME
250-PIPELINING
250-SIZE 31457280
250-STARTTLS
250-AUTH PLAIN LOGIN
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        Failed to login using LOGIN method
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      checkOrMakeSmtpConnection: Elapsed time: 328 millisec
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    Failed.
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--ChilkatLog

Arlo (talk) 13:08, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

Wiki upgrade may have broken Most active graticules

Hello Nathan. Most active graticules has not updated since March 29th, about the time the wiki was upgraded. I'm guessing something has broken. Most active Geohashers might need to be checked too. Thanks --Sourcerer (talk) 17:36, 7 April 2016 (UTC)

This isn't the first time that this has happened. --NWoodruff (talk) 18:02, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
I found the problem. It wiki isn't allowing me to automate the login of my bot under my id. it generates the report but doesn't allow for the upload of it. This is going to take some work. --NWoodruff (talk) 19:31, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
I have some bad news. There has been lots of work done to the wiki to prevent automated upload of anything, preventing people like me automating reports and uploading them with a bot. You will get to see just how good of a programmer I am... --NWoodruff (talk) 01:25, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
I was able to crack it. AND it will remain secret on how it is done. --NWoodruff (talk) 02:24, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
Well done - and I like the reduced size of the report page that you introduced a while back. Thanks --Sourcerer (talk) 07:58, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
I think it broke again at the start of June. --Sourcerer (talk) 14:17, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
Yea, it is broken again. I was looking at it last night and it will need some reworking. Maybe this weekend I can get to it. --NWoodruff (talk) 19:18, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
Thank you! --Q-Owl (talk) 19:44, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
I found the problem last night and manually updated the page. I'll have it working automatically by this weekend.--NWoodruff (talk) 14:01, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
All good. Great work. --Sourcerer (talk) 16:17, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

Most active Geohashers

Most active Geohashers seems not to work, too (Last Update 4/23/2016). --Q-Owl (talk) 17:29, 16 June 2016 (UTC)

Could you please run Most active Geohashers? --Q-Owl (talk) 09:31, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
Hhmmm... I thought I fixed that. I'll have to look at it tonight. --NWoodruff (talk) 12:48, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

I think I found a bug in the Most Active Geohashers tables. In the tables I have no expeditions past April, but in May is when I have an It's a Kitty (non-expedition, I didn't go) listed on my User-page table. It's not breaking the program(other users are counted), but isn't counting anything past April for me. Pedalpusher (talk) 19:44, 30 September 2016 (UTC)

I'll take a look at it. Thanks for the info, it is a big help. --NWoodruff (talk) 20:04, 30 September 2016 (UTC)

Most active Geohashers was not updated for over one year. Do you have a script / bot for that and if yes, could you please run it? --Solli (talk) 11:42, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

Wow.. It hasn't worked in more than a year. I'm surprised no one else has pointed it out. It is supposed to run on the 1st and 15th of every month. I'll check on it tonight to see why it is broken. Thanks for pointing it out. --NWoodruff (talk) 15:04, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
I have found the problem as the website isn't allowing me to update via a bot. I'll update it manually today and work on changing the update page to the same way I update the Most Active Graticles--NWoodruff (talk) 17:05, 21 October 2017 (UTC)

Nathan - Most active Geohashers stopped noticing my expeditions sometime in mid-2016. In 2014 I switched to listing my expeditions on a separate Expeditions page under my User page, and I remember that you had to make a change to your lovely map application so it could find them. Is the same sort of thing now necessary for Most active Geohashers? If so, would you be willing? I'd be much obliged!

Hi Nathan - Most active Geohashers has not noticed most of my expeditions even though most were updated a year ago. Otherwise it is a great table. Can you please fix it? Yosef (talk) 22:11, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

By the way, congratulations on your FOURTH Globalhash. Mcbaneg (talk)

I will add your expedition page to the list of special pages the program should look at. --NWoodruff (talk) 22:19, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
Many thanks! Mcbaneg (talk)

Hey Nathan, I noticed the Most active Geohashers page has been updated but my numbers have not. I have a Retro-Hash in my list before the April hashes and that's where the table stops showing my counted hashes. Anything I can do to get that fixed or is it something to do with how your scripting looks at the user pages? Thanks! Pedalpusher (talk) 02:03, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

Nevermind, I think I figured it out. I recall you adding an Expedition category to another issue I had and checking one of your Retro's did indeed have that Category. I've added it to my Retro page and hopefully, the next time your counter script runs, it'll pick up the rest of my expeditions. Pedalpusher (talk) 02:19, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

Most active graticules - Top 20

I have a suggestion. Most active graticules shows the top ten in the overall record. As this list is dominated by fewer than 10 graticules, how about a top twenty? While you are in wiki-mode, please could you update Most active Geohashers - if you can find a few spare minutes. Thanks! --Sourcerer (talk) 11:52, 30 July 2016 (UTC)

I have found the problem to the Most active Geohashers page. Cambridge has created a expedition page for next years Geohashing day. When I compile data I allocate memory in the program based on the number of months that has passed by since May 2008. May 2008 would equal 1, June 2008 would equal 2 and so on. I compile the data into this memory array and create enough space to calculate to the current month and year. I never assumed that someone would create a page a year into the future... Cambridge Geoashing day 2017. That killed my program and no data was ever updated. I'm still working on a fix to the program. But for now, I'm having the program skip anything from 2017, which is just a temporary fix. I had to do that to update the page to show that I now have 3, yes count them, 3 Global HASHES!!!. I will work on the program sometime soon to start it working again automatically. --NWoodruff (talk) 00:03, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
3 Global HASHES!!! Wow! Congratulation! --Q-Owl (talk) 16:17, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

Mistake in Most active graticules!

Hi NWoodruff, the Most active graticules page doesn't show the results in the Coordinates reached section since 2012 since today's update. What happened?

--GeorgDerReisende (talk) 13:02, 13 October 2016 (UTC)

The only thing I can think of is that the website quit giving the program data after 2012 and the program finished with the data that it had. I'll rerun the program this evening when I get home and see if there is any problem with it. --NWoodruff (talk) 13:08, 13 October 2016 (UTC)

Expedition Archives from December 2016 (?)

Hi NWoodruff,
it seems that the Expedition Archive 2016-12-12, 2016-12-14 and 2016-12-20 are the last which were created.
Pages between them and 2016-12-21 with the following do not exist. :-( Is that ok?
Best wishes for you and your family in 2017
Jochen --Q-Owl (talk) 16:23, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

Hi Q-Owl, I noticed that it quit working. I do not have anything to do with the archive pages, but my program does read them to figure out various things like "Last Man Standing" achievements. Without the archive working my reports will not work.
Unfortunately, I do not have anything to do with the Archive pages... :( and can not fix them.--NWoodruff (talk) 17:03, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
Q-Owl, I think it relates to the AperfectBot that also automates the Current events page. It's been down since Dec 7th and I posted a message on the bot issues page; aperfectring says: the computer which runs it is having issues right now. I hope to have it temporarily resolved in a day or two. That was 2 weeks ago though so I'm not sure how long it's going to be. Pedalpusher (talk) 15:46, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
Hi Pedalpusher, may be they need a new wake up message? --Q-Owl (talk) 10:13, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

About guns...

Hi Woodruff, I'm back in Israel but when I was in the United States, I tried to geohash when I discovered the challenge of private property. I could have wandered onto someone else's property without anyone there, but that might have been dangerous. How do you deal with this kind of challenge? Yosef (talk) 19:13, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

Sorry for taking so long to answer your question. Almost everywhere in the United States is private property, unless it is a place of business. When out in the middle of nowhere, I generally look for Posted signs specifying no trespassing. Posted signs of no hunting doesn't necessarily mean no trespassing, just no hunting. When it comes to someone's property with a house on it, I generally knock on the door first to get permission and the Ambassador achievement. But if nobody is home and there is no fence in the way to reach it, I proceed with caution.
As for guns, most people in the US have at least one gun. I myself have a permit to carry concealed. That doesn't mean that I do. But just because we are a gun happy nation doesn't mean that we shoot first and ask questions later. You should find almost all but a very select few Americans are very polite about accessing property, especially if you ask first. Even if you don't ask and someone finds you on their property, nobody is going to shoot first ask questions later. I've ventured out to private property many times in the past. If someone comes driving up when on their property, I've given short explanations of why I am there and keep pointing at my printed out map from peeron.com. I usually get an okay at that point. I have got one request to leave the property in my almost 10 years of expeditions. I've never had a gun pointed at me or felt someone would show up with one to point at me to get me off the property.
I hope that answers your question.--NWoodruff (talk) 13:23, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

Israel/Palestine

Hi Nathan, Thanks for your answer on guns last year. Just recently, somebody made a page for Palestine. You might have seen that I have done several geohashes like this one: 2018-08-09 31 35 which are in Judea and Samaria, colloquially, the West Bank (of the Jordan River). I've explained that because of treaties, history, and the facts on the ground that Judea and Samaria cannot be considered Palestine. I'm requesting that you weigh in on the topic so that we can define all of the geohashes that I have done as in Israel and the only Palestine geohashes will be those inside areas ruled by the Palestinian Authority. Thank you, Yosef (talk) 16:02, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Yosef. I have no opinion on this one way or another. Israel is not my country nor is Palestine. I am not religious so I don't have a dog in that fight either over territory. That part of the map is on the other side of the world to me, unless you are a flat earther, so I don't think my suggestions about one country or the other should mean anything. If anything, the geohashers in that area should be deciding. Someone came in to my graticule and changed Talking Rock to Roswell since Roswell was the biggest city in the graticule. I got upset since Roswell is considered Metro Atlanta and should be included by name in the Atlanta Graticule. Nobody outside of Atlanta would actually know that. Talk:Roswell,_Georgia. Going with the popular decision is usually best and I conceded to letting the Graticule being named Roswell, even though I thought the other names would be better. So, please forgive me for not weighing in as it really doesn't matter to me. This wiki is not the place to be picking fights and making enemies. We are all here to have fun. --NWoodruff (talk) 18:29, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
In that stream, I've done more than 95% of hashes in Israel for the last four years. There isn't anyone else who does it here. Yosef (talk)
Hi Yosef. I have done 531 geohashes, 4 Global hashes. More than anyone has done for 6 years up until recently. About half of those GeoHashes were in Talking Rock/Roswell. No a soul that voted on the change to Roswell lived in Georgia. It still remains Roswell to this day. I hope you can understand. --NWoodruff (talk) 11:46, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

Missing Pictures

Hi! I noticed that for some of your expeditions, you embedded pictures but never uploaded them. If you still have the pictures and would like to upload them, I would be happy.

The expeditions in question are:

--Fippe (talk) 17:35, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

Reverse regional geohash

There currently is a discussion regarding reverse regional geohashes, also regarding yours, and the potential establishment of an honorable mention for close cases. You might want to weigh in here. --Fippe (talk) 18:14, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

2023-03-09 global

Tomorrow's Globalhash is in your state! --Fippe (talk) 14:37, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

Map

Hi. Is user adventure map working still? I can't see my new expeditions in 2023 on 51,17. Klucken (talk) 00:13, 25 October 2023 (UTC)