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== Location ==
 
== Location ==
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*[http://www.zugspitze.de/livecams/index.php Webcam] (the one called "Zugspitzgipfel - Blickrichtung Norden zum Eibsee", which means "Zugspitze peak - Looking north to the Eibsee")
 
*[http://www.zugspitze.de/livecams/index.php Webcam] (the one called "Zugspitzgipfel - Blickrichtung Norden zum Eibsee", which means "Zugspitze peak - Looking north to the Eibsee")
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** updated: https://foto-webcam.eu/webcam/eibsee-nord (https://zugspitze.de/en/News/Live-Info/Zugspitze?type=webcams)
 
*[[wikipedia:Eibsee|Eibsee - English wikipedia (basically no information)]]
 
*[[wikipedia:Eibsee|Eibsee - English wikipedia (basically no information)]]
*[http://de.wikipedia.org/Eibsee German wikipedia (good information)]
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*[http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eibsee German wikipedia (good information)]
 
*[http://www.freizeit-eibsee.de Eibsee leisure centre - owner of the lake]
 
*[http://www.freizeit-eibsee.de Eibsee leisure centre - owner of the lake]
 
*[http://www.freizeit-eibsee.de/rw_e8v/main.asp?WebID=eibsee_frei&PageID=40&Redirect=1&Modus=detail Boat rental]
 
*[http://www.freizeit-eibsee.de/rw_e8v/main.asp?WebID=eibsee_frei&PageID=40&Redirect=1&Modus=detail Boat rental]
  
== Transport there ==
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== Plans ==
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The planning phase for this great expedition gained a lot of momentum and deserves [[2009-06-07 47 10/Plans|its own page]]. Do not fear, nothing is lost; it is preserved in all of its greatness over at the other page.
  
The Eibsee can be reached by bus or [http://www.zugspitze.de/main_en.php rack railway] ([http://www.zugspitze.de/pdf/Ganzjahresplan_ZRB_Stand0408.pdf schedule, pdf]). Bayern-Tickets are probably valid on the bus, but not on the rack railway.
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== Expedition report ==
  
:The website of the Zugspitzbahn tells me that the Bayern-Ticket is o.k. on the rack railway from Garmisch-Partenkirchen to Grainau, leaving only the last part (one station from Grainau to Eibsee) for which we'd have to get an extra ticket. It's in the FAQ section, I could find this part in German only. --[[User:Zb|Zb]] 07:36, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
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===Before the party of 9 partied===
  
The Zugspitzbahn is a narrow gauge mountain railway which goes up to the highest peak of Germany. From the station of Grainau up it's running as a rack railway. Tickets to the peak are 42 EUR round trip, but tickets until Eibsee (which is already well into the rack railway part) are ''much'' cheaper, probably around 5 EUR one way.
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====From Würzburg to München ([[User:Danatar|Danatar]], [[User:Srs0|Srs0]], [[User:Thepiguy|Thepiguy]])====
:The [http://www.zugspitze.de/main_en.php rack railway's website] is a major annoyance. I could find out that Bayern tickets are o.k. on the part from Garmisch to Grainau, but it seems impossible to find out how much the fare for the one station from Grainau to Eibsee is. Does anyone know? --[[User:Zb|Zb]] 07:42, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
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[[Image:2009-06-07 47 10 dan startwue.jpg|240px|thumb|left|Early.]]
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With difficulty Danatar got up at 4:30 after 2 hours of sleep, but he nonetheless managed to meet thepiguy who was already waiting at the train station at 5:15. On the train Danatar tried to get some sleep, but the train seats are very uncomfortable to lie on so he didn't succeed. After 2 hours they arrived at Treuchtlingen and changed into a double decker train. From the upper floor the sight is slightly better than in a normal train and they could watch the beautiful landscape. They even saw 2 deer. At 9:30 the train arrived at München main station where ekorren was waiting for them directly at their platform.
  
==Timetables==
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=====[[User:thepiguy|thepiguy]] says...=====
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Possibly my favourite expedition yet! I hope the pictures from the underwater camera turn out...
  
Attention, all y'all: SEV! (I guess there ain't no good translation for words as truly German as Schienenersatzverkehr... but maybe ''shi#y exceptional vehicle'' counts?) There is construction work going on along the rail tracks between Tutzing and Weilheim. Trains do not run there and are substituted by buses. Please make sure you check the online schedules on DB's website because they take the extra buses into account! Please note that bikes are probably not an option because they may not be taken onto the buses (or only very few bikes may be allowed)! --[[User:Zb|Zb]] 20:02, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
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====The crew from Regensburg ([[User:Dawidi|dawidi]], Hans, [[User:Tomcat|Tomcat]])====
:Yes, I've seen that, and decided against bringing my bike (which would be of no use anyway, because the BZB gets us right up to the lake). --[[User:Dawidi|dawidi]] 20:13, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
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... who also came from quite far away.
::Kayaks or other large things may also be a major problem on SEV buses! --[[User:Zb|Zb]] 20:15, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 
  
=== From nearly everywhere ===
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====All the way from Tübingen: [[User:Ekorren|Ekorren]]====
It seems that most of you change trains in München on the way to Garmisch, and that there are schedules including a train leaving München at 9:12am, and other schedules including a train leaving München at 10:12am. Maybe we want to vote?
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... who even came from another state (BaWü)
:I don't really think it's about voting here. Of the people currently interested, the Würzburg people have the longest way and the least options, so their schedule sets the time. It's only about where the others want to wait for them.
 
::Well, the idea really wasn't about creating simple majorities and then telling those who come from Würzburg that they just have bad luck. What I wanted to do is find out if it's possible to not only share the Eibsee, but also a train ride that's part of the fun. If reaching the 9:12 train is impossible from Würzburg, this is just an encouragement for everyone else to consider joining the Würzburg crew along their way in München or Pasing or Weilheim. We might even figure out how to put as many folks as possible on our [http://www.bahn.de/regional/view/bayern/bahnregional/freizeit/bayernticket.shtml Bayern-Tickets] (5 max for each ticket).
 
  
* Schedules including the train arriving in Garmisch-Partenkirchen at 10:57am (RB 30611; leaving München Hbf at 9:12)
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It was a short night - if you can call that a night. More like almost no sleeping at all, as I was busy discussing, researching, preparing until deep into the night, and had to get up as early as 3 am. Left house a few minutes past four, and arrived at the station not really in time to go to an ATM first, or buy a ticket from a machine that accepts cards (they actually are slower). Luckily, I still had a prepaid Baden-Württemberg-Ticket, so I could just jump on the train and write the date into the right field.
** o.k. for [[User:Zb|zb]], acceptable for and two possible drag-along geohashers.
 
** no problem from Regensburg
 
** ''impossible'' to reach from Würzburg
 
** reachable from Tübingen at München-Pasing (better place to join is Weilheim)
 
  
* Schedules including the train arriving in Garmisch-Partenkirchen at 11:57am (RB5417; leaving München Hbf at 10:12)
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Now, at Plochingen I changed to train for Ulm, to get the [[2009-06-07 48 9|Unavoidable Public Transport Speed Racer Multihash]] first.
** o.k. for [[User:Zb|zb]], preferred by two possible drag-along geohashers.
 
** no problem from Regensburg
 
** possible from Würzburg to join at München
 
** possible from Tübingen to join at München Hbf (better place to join is Weilheim or even Garmisch-Partenkirchen)
 
  
After trying to figure out everyone's options, I think we might build our schedules along the way of RB5417 and meet somewhere on this train? --[[User:Zb|Zb]] 08:25, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
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After having accomplished the task to not miss its tracks and thus also not miss the hash, the train went in for Ulm. I still needed to buy a Bayern-Ticket, so I took a short visit out of the station and found that the machines at the tramway station would sell me one that is both a good extension for my collection and payable with card, so saving me to find an ATM for the rest of the day, bought the ticket and caught a train to Augsburg and then to München. Shortly after my train arrived, Danatar and thepiguy should arrive from Würzburg, so I picked them up at their platform. We then found the others in the northers section of the station.
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| Bahnhof                          |  Ankunft  |  Abfahrt  |  Zug    |
 
+-----------------------------------+-----------+-----------+----------+
 
| München Hbf Gl.27-36              |          |      10:12|  RB  5417|
 
| München-Pasing                    |      10:18|      10:19|          |
 
| Tutzing                          |      10:39|          |          |
 
+-----------------------------------+-----------+-----------+----------+
 
| Tutzing                          |          |      10:46|  Bus  SEV|
 
| Weilheim(Oberbay)                |      11:06|          |          |
 
+-----------------------------------+-----------+-----------+----------+
 
| Weilheim(Oberbay)                |          |      11:11|  RB  5417|
 
| Huglfing                          |      11:18|      11:19|  R  5417|
 
| Uffing a Staffelsee              |      11:24|      11:25|          |
 
| Murnau                            |      11:29|      11:30|          |
 
| Ohlstadt                          |      11:37|      11:37|          |
 
| Eschenlohe                        |      11:42|      11:42|          |
 
| Oberau                            |      11:48|      11:49|          |
 
| Garmisch-Partenkirchen            |      11:57|      12:04|          |
 
+-----------------------------------+-----------+-----------+----------+
 
* The Würzburg crew might join in München Hbf?
 
* Travellers from Regensburg might also join in München Hbf?
 
* Geohaschers from Tübingen might join in Weilheim at 11:11?
 
* [[User:Zb|zb]] and two others plan to join in München Hbf.
 
  
=== From Würzburg ===
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====Two fellows from München ([[User:Baerenfell|Baerenfell]], [[User:Zb|zb]])====
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... who almost appear to be couch potatoes, considering how far everyone else has traveled.
  
==== local traffic ====
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=====[[User:Baerenfell|Baerenfell]] says...=====
*Start at Würzburg    6:41 , arrival at Treuchtlingen        8:30
 
*continuing at        8:35 (5 minutes), arrival at Augsburg  9:30
 
*continuing at        9:51 , arrival at Weilheim            11:16
 
*continuing at        12:11 , arrival at Garmisch-P.        12:56
 
*Bus from Garmisch    13:04 arrives at the Eibsee at        13:45
 
  
:Why not 5:31 and be there an hour earlier? The more time to explore the area, the better. --[[User:Ekorren|Ekorren]] 17:55, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
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Awesome Expedition with a lot of really nice and funny guys, nearly perfect weather and last, but not least a really cool spot. Also being one of the first to do an underwater geohash rules :) (proof to follow with full report).
  
That would be:
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And now I can put my hands on a huge lot of ribbons, YEEHAA!
*Start at Würzburg 5:31, arrival at Treuchtlingen 7:30
 
*continuing at 7:35, arrival at München 9:34
 
*continuing at 10:12, arrival at Weilheim 11:06
 
*continuing at 11:11, Garmisch 11:57
 
*Bus 12:14 arrives 12:55
 
  
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Started the day with a final look at the planning page at about 9 am, packed my stuff and was on my way. The school I had to vote at, was just a few meters from home, so I stopped by and went did my civil duty (Claiming a "Democracy Geohash" for this). After that I cycled on to the Central Station to meet the others, which wasn't really complicated (everyone would recognize such a cool group | 2. Achievment today | Meet-up | all 8 ).
  
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=====[[User:Zb|zb]] says...=====
  
Return:
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''First things first:''
*Bus at      17:10 arrives at Garmisch 17:51
 
*Train at    18:04 arrives at Weilheim 18:49
 
*continue at 18:53 (4 minutes), arrival at Augsburg 20:09
 
*then either continue at 20:28, arrival at Treuchtlingen 21:20, continue at 22:25, arrival at Würzburg 0:06
 
*or visit Augsburg hashpoint (might still be too far), continue at 21:18, arrival at Nürnberg 22:25, continue at 23:35, arrival at Würzburg 0:56
 
  
==== ICE ====
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I know I sound like a hippie who has smoked his brains out when I say that this trip made me feel truly happy not only because the nature looked so nice, but -- even better -- because it was very fun to meet everyone else after having done a number of geohashes myself and even failed to meet [[user:dawidi|dawidi]] once.
(by srs0?) I'm sure the above way is probably cheaper, but I have surgery at 06:30 Monday morning, so arriving home past midnight isn't an option for me. Here's my idea from Würzburg:
 
  
*Start at Würzburg at 08:31, arrival at München at 10:41 (ICE 581)
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[[User:Koepfel|Koepfel]], after today, your meetup graph will be in serious trouble if not completely FUBARed, but it's worth it because spending this great day with a group as nice and diverse was a big win. I mean it.
*Continuing at        11:12, arrival at Tutzing at 11:39 (RB 30613)
 
*Continuing at        11:46, arrival at Weilheim(Oberbay) at 12:06 (Bus)
 
*Continuing at        12:11, same as above from here.
 
  
38.00 euro with a BahnCard50
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''On to the report:''
  
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[[Image:2009-06-07 47 10 0001.jpg|thumb|right|A preview of what was to be seen later this day.]]
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I left the house around 8:30am and took a small detour to a nearby school house because it was election day for the European Parliament and the school is where I go to vote. A [[Talk:2009-06-07 47 10#Yay Democracy!|ribbon]] has even been suggested for this. While the school house itself was just as ugly as any German school house built in the seventies, it featured a nice painting next to one of its doors that must have been an indication about what was bound to happen later this day. See gallery below.
  
Return:
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I stopped at a bakery in my neighborhood and rode my bike to the train station, where [[User:Srs0|Srs0]] had just arrived some minutes ago on his ICE train. When asking him, somewhat reluctantly, if he was, like, maybe on his way to, like, Garmisch, and stuff, he answered that yes, he was, so we introduced ourselves. He actually wasn't that hard to find because his right arm was of landmark quality with the cast he was wearing ''and'' he had an [http://imgs.xkcd.com/store/imgs/stand_back_square_0.png xkcd t-shirt]. Despite the warning on the t-shirt, I hadn't stood back and he was nice enough to not try SCIENCE. We found another bakery and got him breakfast, including a ''Auszogne'' (meaning ''a one pulled apart'') which is something like a Bavarian equivalent to a donut. Slightly later, everyone else showed up at the train station.
*Same to Weilheim(Oberbay)
 
*Continuing at      18:54, arrival at Tutzing at 19:14 (Bus)
 
*Continuing at      19:20, arrival at München at 19:48 (RB 5424)
 
*Continuing at      20:20, arrival at Würzburg at 22:35 (ICE 780)
 
  
38.00 euro with BahnCard50.
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Some friends of mine were there, too, but they went on another train to another beautiful place in the mountains to celebrate a birthday. (Happy birthday, [http://www.annegret.de/index.htm A.]!)
(Round trip 76 euro each with BahnCard50.)
 
  
So much less time in transit, and I can hopefully get a couple hours more of sleep before my surgery.  So Danatar/thepiguy, would you be open to taking that instead? --srs0?
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===From München to Eibsee===
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Some, like [[User:Zb|zb]], were introduced to the hobby of geocaching by others, like [[User:Ekorren|Ekorren]] while we had time to kill until our train left.
  
You could also part from the group for the ICE part alone, only pay for that extra, and join the group ticket for the rest of the trip. --[[User:Ekorren|Ekorren]] 17:55, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
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[[Image:2009-06-07 47 10 0011.jpg|240px|thumb|left|The internet is over there.]]
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Shortly after, we went along the very scenic tracks near Starnberger See, changed onto a bus in Tutzing because the electric wires above the train tracks were in the progress of being repaired further down the railroad line, making regular train traffic impossible. We decided to sit in the back of the bus, because we remembered from back when we were still using school buses that the back is where the cool people sit. We again got onto a train in Weilheim that took us to Garmisch-Partenkirchen. From the bus, we saw some very shiny new copper wires that had already been put up and, more importantly, some famous satellite dishes that were even shinier.
  
Yes, the second version was by me (srs0).  Also, since I don't actually know any of the plans yet (and asking thepiguy resulted in "I don't know, I'm not doing any of the planning"), what's the transportation outline?  Ekorren mentioned a group ticket, so I assume that means the idea was to buy a 5-person ticket and use that?  If so, I'll gladly pay for the ICE part and connection myself and re-join with the group in Weilheim. -[[User:Srs0|Srs0]] 18:07, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
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When you claim that you come from the internet, ''this exact'' village of dishes is indeed your hometown.
  
:Yes, the plan definitely would be a Bayern-Ticket for all of you. If someone has some leftoevr money to throw away, I'll gladly take it because for me it's going to be much more expensive as I need to come from Baden-Württemberg and probably alone. I was about to cancel the idea because of that. --[[User:Ekorren|Ekorren]] 18:13, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
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In Garmisch-Partenkirchen, Ekorren was quick to negotiate our possibilities and fares for going up to Eibsee on the really cool train, the Zugspitzbahn. It has to be said that the lady at the ticket counter was very helpful towards our group that must have seemed unusual, even by standards set at places where many tourists and groups of crazy school kids travel through.
  
I vote for leave earlier for more time at the lake! 2km in a foot powered paddle boat is going to be hard... [[User:Thepiguy|Thepiguy]] 18:16, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
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The reasons why the Zugspitzbahn is really cool are: (a) It has tracks narrower than regular trains, (b) some parts of the tracks are so steep that it needs racks in addition to the rails. Thus, it has all the technology necessary to (c) take you up to the very top of Germany's highest mountain, the name of which is proudly featured on the display on the side of the train. Cool, eh?
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[[Image:2009-06-07 47 10 hashers.jpg|240px|thumb|right|The group is all set for our trip up the mountain!]]
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(d) The train also makes for a really great backdrop for a group picture, as is evidenced in the picture here and in the gallery below.
  
:I vote for the current schedules, as I need the rest.  Normally I wouldn't care about lack of sleep, but right now I have to. -[[User:Srs0|Srs0]] 18:28, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
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While we went uphill to Eibsee, [[user:thepiguy|thepiguy]] got serious about his plans to swim in the Eibsee. Everyone could tell because he produced diving equipment from his backpack. We kept telling him that the water would be really really cold. Our guess was < 10°C, which was wrong, as we would see shortly after.
::I don't think the difference in lack of sleep is so much significant because of starting one hour earlier or later, while the difference in the time available at the destination is really significant because it's short enough already. We could aim at being ''back'' at a station an hour earlier and in case something goes wrong fall back to the original timetable, and otherwise see what to do with the time. --[[User:Ekorren|Ekorren]] 18:46, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 
::<small><small>I hesitate to say that, but... as great as it would be to have you in the party, I'm not so sure whether it is a good idea to do that trip with a broken wrist. I definitely wouldn't have done it after my accident last year. If something happens, you might get in trouble with your insurance. --[[User:Ekorren|Ekorren]] 18:46, 5 June 2009 (UTC)</small></small>
 
:::I guess he's talking about lack of sleep AFTER the expedition, before surgery, and he has a point there. We could use local trains for the way to the hashpoint and split up on the way back (srs0 ICE, rest local trains). For me the ICE is too expensive, since I don't have a BahnCard and it would cost me 150 Euros (180 if I buy a BahnCard). There should be no insurance problem with the arm, since it is in the cast and we'll take care of it. Sitting at home versus in the train should make no difference. - [[User:Danatar|Danatar]] 18:52, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 
  
::::We can all take the local at 5:31, which gets us to the lake around 12:30, and then me and srs0 can take the ICE back. [[User:Thepiguy|Thepiguy]] 20:06, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
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He just kept saying that now was not the time to think about cold water. The time to think about cold water was not before he would actually be in the air, after jumping off the boat, right before impact, when it would already be too late anyway. He was ''seriously'' committed.
  
=== From Tübingen ===
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===At/On/In the lake===
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After having walked to the lake, we were offered a full choice of different vessels for rent. This is the part where we left the solid ground and went to find the water geohash. This is also where we all thank [[user:thepiguy|thepiguy]] for paying for the three boats we took out onto the lake: ''Thank you, pi!''
  
'''Earliest possible connection to Eibsee''':
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While we had expected the water temperature to be ''very, very'' cold, a sign next to the boat rental shed said it was warmer than expected: 17°C.
  
Tübingen 4:21
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Two pedal boats and one row boat went to the spot that numerous GPS devices were pointing at. When the coordinates were reached, many different things were done to appropriately celebrate the success:
  
Plochingen 512/536
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[[Image:2009-06-07 47 10 0063.jpg|180px|thumb|left|Calendar Girls!]]
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* Three humans and Murray the hashcot went swimming.
  
Ulm 644/723
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* The three humans even went under water.
  
Augsburg 833/851
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* And they posed for a Calendar Girl Achievement.
  
Weilheim 1006/1011
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* Because the panic of a human body immersed in cold water causes some shouting, we heard amazing echoes from our location on the lake. Allegedly, one sound produced on the lake causes as many as seven echoes, but this is a detail we were not able to reproduce.
  
Garmisch-Partenkirchen 1057/1115 Zugspitzbahn (or by bus)
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After we were back on the land, a walk was done on the South shore, along a smaller lake (Frillensee), overlooking the geohash location and leading to another geocache. Just in case we have not mentioned yet: The area was extremely beautiful.
  
Eibsee station 1145
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We bought hashcards, went to a beer garden, walked to the bus stop, mailed the hashcards, stuffed a phone box and started our journey home.
  
Several reroutings and later connections are possible.
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===From Eibsee to München===
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We were really, really lucking out with the weather. Thunder and rain didn't really start before we were in the bus and already on the way home.
  
'''Latest connection back:'''
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Besides, it's always amazing how different the way back feels compared to the way ''to'' some place.
  
Eibsee station 1715 Zugspitzbahn
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===After the party of 9 parted===
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[[Image:2009-06-07 47 10 0070.jpg|240px|thumb|right|The internet was here. ''Already'', before ''we'' were, and ever since the fifties!]]
  
Garmisch-Partenkirchen 1750/1804
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====From München to Würzburg====
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When the train arrived at München, thepiguy and srs0 got out first and ran to catch an ICE train which left three minutes later. (...)
  
Reutte in Tirol (Austria) 1859/1917
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From München, Danatar had two trains to choose from to get home: One at 20:25 which would arrive at Würzburg at 0:06 and one at 21:09 which would arrive at 0:56. He had already decided earlier to visit his displaced origin hashpoint in this graticule and that would take all the time until the second option, so he said goodbye to everyone and went to buy a ''Döner''. Then he went on his displaced origin expedition ([[1981-09-04_48_11|read here]]).
  
Kempten 2036/2049
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Danatar returned from his displaced origin and boarded the train towards home. At Nürnberg he had to wait almost one hour to change his train. The big rock festival ''Rock im Park'' had taken place this weekend and Danatar could pass the time watching drunk and tired people moving around zombie-like in the station. When his train finally left the seats next to him were filled with people in a good temper, so Danatar couldn't even get some sleep. His train arrived in Würzburg a few minutes late, shortly after 1 am.
  
Ulm 2159/2210
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====München, by bike, in the rain====
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'''Baerenfell:''' Left the others at the station in Munich to take the bike home (about 15 minutes). It started raining after a few meters and pouring after a few more. I didn't see much anymore and got totally drenched, but finally finished this great day with another look at the geohashing page. '''zb''', while taking a slightly different route home, also got seriously drenched.
  
Plochingen 2321/2344
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====From München to Tübingen====
  
Tübingen 023
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There isn't much to tell. After the group mostly parted, only the Regensburg people and me were left, and also left was some time. So I picked another geocache description of a cache that was supposed to be about 400 m from the station, and we set off to search for that one. Without success, this time. As I see now, the cache has been successlessly searched by other people during the last few days, so it is probably lost. Also, we got hit by heavy rain during the search.
  
''or:''
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Since it was now late enough that there was only one connection left for me, I went back the same way I had been coming, via Augsburg, Ulm and Plochingen. The train from Ulm was a bit late, which resulted in an upgrade of the unavoidable multihash so that it now also was a Speed Racer geohash. Surprisingly, after a sprint through all of the station, I still caught the RE at Plochingen and reached Tübingen at 0:25. Usually, if the train from Ulm is late (which it usually is), you have to wait for the next train to Tübingen. Which goes only a few minutes later, anyway.
  
Garmisch-Partenkirchen 1804
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== Gallery ==
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(Notes moved to [[Talk:2009-06-07 47 10|talk page]])
  
Weilheim(Obb) 1849/1853
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=== From Würzburg to München (thepiguy, Danatar, srs0) ===
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<gallery>
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Image:2009-06-07 47 10 dan startwue.jpg|thepiguy and Danatar started early
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Image:2009-06-07 47 10 dan zugspitzewue.jpg|''Zugspitze'' ("train front end") at Würzburg
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Image:2009-06-07 47 10 dan zugspitzetreuchtlingen.jpg|''Zugspitze'' at Treuchtlingen
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</gallery>
  
Augsburg 2009/2025
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=== From Tübingen to München (ekorren) ===
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<gallery>
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Image:2009-06-07_47_10_e_Tuebingen_421.jpg|Early start at Tübingen
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Image:2009-06-07_47_10_e_Ulm_tunnel.jpg|Changing train at Ulm
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Image:2009-06-07_47_10_e_Ulm_450+425.jpg|The right one to Augsburg  
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Image:2009-06-07_47_10_e_Muenchen_arrival_930.jpg|Arriving at München - now looking for the group.
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</gallery>
  
Ulm 2140 (and on as above)
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=== München, doing democracy before the hash (zb) ===
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<gallery>
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Image:2009-06-07 47 10 0003.jpg|Vote here.
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Image:2009-06-07 47 10 0002.jpg|An ode to the seventies.
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Image:2009-06-07 47 10 0001.jpg|Mountains! Sunshine! Water! When you see something like this in the morning, on a building like the one in the previous picture, the day ought to be good.
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</gallery>
  
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=== From München to the lake ===
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<gallery>
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Image:2009-06-07_47_10_e_SEV_group_in_bus.jpg|Some hashers on the replacement bus
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Image:2009-06-07_47_10_e_Oberhausen_1118.jpg|Early glance on the Alps, ca. 11:18 near Oberhausen
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Image:2009-06-07 47 10 0008.jpg|Many clouds in the mountains that we were heading to, but the weather was constantly getting better.
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Image:2009-06-07 47 10 0011.jpg|Huge satellite dishes in Raisting, as seen from the SEV bus. In this type of scenery, they couldn't look more alien.
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Image:2009-06-07_47_10_bavaria.jpg|View from the train, somewhere between Weilheim and Murnau
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Image:2009-06-07_47_10_e_Danatar_Telephone.jpg|Danatar struggles to explain where he is and what he's doing there
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Image:2009-06-07_47_10_e_Buchenried_1136.jpg|Another view from train, ca. 11:36 near Buchenried
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Image:2009-06-07 47 10 dan zugspitze.jpg|The Zugspitze as seen from Garmisch-Partenkirchen
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Image:2009-06-07_47_10_e_Garmisch_Mirroring.jpg|Garmisch-Partenkirchen, BZB station
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Image:2009-06-07 47 10 0017.jpg|The group is amazed by technology from the late 1920s. This is also where the Olympic Winter Games of 1936 took place and were put into a crazy political context.
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Image:2009-06-07 47 10 0013.jpg|The railway's rack on display.
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Image:2009-06-07 47 10 0016.jpg|POSTED: This train really goes all the way up.
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Image:2009-06-07 47 10 0018.jpg|The picture on pi's camera has it all.
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Image:2009-06-07_47_10_e_Grainau_Bf.jpg|Station of Grainau from a train drivers view
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Image:2009-06-07 47 10 0020.jpg|[[user:dawidi|dawidi]] and Hans.
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Image:2009-06-07 47 10 0021.jpg|[[user:thepiguy|thepiguy]]'s backpack. We are not supposed to panic. He is from the internet ''and he does not fear''. He fears cold water ''least''.
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Image:2009-06-07_47_10_e_racktrack_1240.jpg|Rack railway line
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Image:2009-06-07_47_10_e_racktrack_1241.jpg|Rack railway line
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</gallery>
  
=== From Regensburg ===
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=== At/On/In and around the lake ===
I'm looking at these connections:
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<gallery>
+-------------------------+--------+--------+----------+----------------+
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Image:2009-06-07 47 10 0022.jpg|Pedal boats. Pedal boats with slides. Row boats (not in this picture). What more does a waterhasher's desperate soul want?
| Bahnhof                |  An  |  Ab  | Zug Nr. | Bemerkungen    |
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Image:2009-06-07 47 10 dan ruderboot.jpg|Preparing for the waterhash
+-------------------------+--------+--------+----------+----------------+
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Image:2009-06-07 47 10 0029.jpg|Baerenfell, srs0, thepiguy and Danatar on their boat. The building of the water rescue folks is closed, so better be careful...
| Regensburg Hbf          |        |  06:43 | RE 32053 |FB EH 3T        |
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Image:2009-06-07 47 10 0035.jpg|Dawidi takes pictues, Hans and Tomcat apply maximum thrust.
| München Hbf            |  08:16 |        | Fußweg  | 10 Min.       |
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Image:2009-06-07 47 10 0028.jpg|The group from Würzburg right in front of the Zugspitze. The mountain hides its top in clouds.
  | München Hbf Gl.27-36    |       |  09:12 | RB 30611 |FB EZ          |
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Image:2009-06-07 47 10 0036.jpg|The top of the Zugspitze. It was barely visible through the clouds just twice, for a very short time.
| Tutzing                |  09:39 |  09:46 | Bus  SEV |1. FB SV        |
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Image:2009-06-07 47 10 dan panorama-hp.jpg|Panorama from the hashpoint
| Weilheim(Oberbay)      |  10:06 10:11 | RB 30611 |FB EZ          |
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Image:2009-06-07 47 10 0037.jpg|Some East-bound planes were still in the process of climbing to their cruise altitude while over the lake. Maybe Zürich departures?
| Garmisch-Partenkirchen  |  10:57 |        | Fußweg  | 4 Min.         |
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Image:2009-06-07 47 10 0040.jpg|Forward we move!
| Zugspitzbahnhof, Garmis |        |  11:15 | ZahnR    |2:             |
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Image:2009-06-07_47_10_e_1322_Boats.jpg|Two of our boats as seen from the third
| Zugspitzbahn, Grainau-E |  11:45 |        |          |                |
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Image:2009-06-07 47 10 dan 3boote.jpg|Two of our boats as seen from another third
+-------------------------+--------+--------+----------+----------------+
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Image:2009-06-07 47 10 0042.jpg|Vessel no. ''lucky 13'' closing in on the coordinates.
+-------------------------+--------+--------+----------+----------------+
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Image:2009-06-07_47_10_e_1324_AtHash_Photowar.jpg
| Zugspitzbahn, Grainau-E |        |  16:15 | ZahnR    |2:              |
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Image:2009-06-07_47_10_e_1326_AtHash_Pirates.jpg
| Zugspitzbahnhof, Garmis |  16:50 |        | Fußweg  | 4 Min.         |
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Image:2009-06-07 47 10 0046.jpg|thepiguy is getting ready for his cannonball into the lake, while srs0 is getting ready to capture the moment of impact.
| Garmisch-Partenkirchen  |        |  17:04 | RB 30640 |FB EZ          |
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Image:2009-06-07_47_10_e_1329_AtHash_Pi_before_jump.jpg
| Weilheim(Oberbay)       |  17:49 |  17:54 | Bus  SEV |1. FB SV        |
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Image:2009-06-07_47_10_e_1329_Swim_Danatar.jpg
| Tutzing                |  18:14 |  18:20 | RB 30640 |FB EZ          |
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Image:2009-06-07_47_10_e_1330_Swim_Pi.jpg|That face is priceless, isn't it?
| München Hbf Gl.27-36    |  18:48 |        | Fußweg  | 10 Min.       |
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Image:2009-06-07 47 10 0049.jpg|While a water temperature of 17 °C is a two-digit number, it's still not big enough to make you feel really comfortable when you're in.
| München Hbf            |        |  19:44 | RE  4262 |BQ FB EH 3T    |
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Image:2009-06-07 47 10 0051.jpg|Panic!
| Regensburg Hbf          |  21:22 |        |          |                |
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Image:2009-06-07 47 10 0052.jpg|This was when we discovered the echo on the lake.
+-------------------------+--------+--------+----------+----------------+
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Image:2009-06-07 47 10 danatar.jpg|Danatar rocks the first underwater geohash!
+-------------------------+--------+--------+----------+----------------+
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Image:2009-06-07 47 10 shark.jpg|Baerenfell and thepiguy weren't far behind!
| Zugspitzbahn, Grainau-E |        |  17:15 | ZahnR    |2:              |
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Image:2009-06-07_47_10_e_1337_Reserl.jpg|We are being watched!
| Zugspitzbahnhof, Garmis |  17:50 |       | Fußweg  | 4 Min.         |
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Image:2009-06-07 47 10 0057.jpg|They are being watched, too.
| Garmisch-Partenkirchen  |       |  18:04 | RB  5424 |FB EZ          |
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Image:2009-06-07 47 10 0058.jpg|Comfortable boat with motor: THEM. Fun Vessels: US.
| Weilheim(Oberbay)       |  18:49 | 18:54 | Bus  SEV |1. FB SV        |
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Image:2009-06-07 47 10 0053.jpg|Baerenfell and thepiguy show signs of pleasure and exhaustion, respectively.
| Tutzing                |  19:14 |  19:20 | RB  5424 |FB EZ          |
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Image:2009-06-07 47 10 murray.jpg|Murray also joined in the fun!
| München Hbf Gl.27-36    |  19:48 |        | Fußweg  | 10 Min.       |
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Image:2009-06-07 47 10 0055.jpg|You must stay away from the shore with these boats. Perfect for waterhashes.
| München Hbf            |        |  20:43 | ALX37986 |FB BT A8        |
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Image:2009-06-07 47 10 0061.jpg|Calendar Girls 1.
  | Regensburg Hbf          |  22:11 |        |          |                |
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Image:2009-06-07 47 10 0062.jpg|Calendar Girls 2.
+-------------------------+--------+--------+----------+----------------+
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Image:2009-06-07 47 10 0063.jpg|Calendar Girls 3. They look cutest in this picture, eh?
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Image:2009-06-07 47 10 0056.jpg|Up, as seen from the lake.
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Image:2009-06-07 47 10 0060.jpg|Down, as seen from the lake.
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Image:2009-06-07_47_10_e_Eibsee_1.jpg|Landscape impression from the boat
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Image:2009-06-07_47_10_e_Eibsee_Clouds.jpg|Clouds over the lake
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Image:2009-06-07 47 10 0059.jpg|If you look close, the cumulus cloud has some lenticular parts on the left, indicating turbulence (and being a hint to the storm that happened later).
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Image:2009-06-07_47_10_e_Eibsee_Dark_Island.jpg|Dark island
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Image:2009-06-07_47_10_e_Eibsee_LightIsland.jpg|Light island
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Image:2009-06-07_47_10_e_Eibsee_SmallIsland.jpg|Small island (''Steinbühl'')
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Image:2009-06-07_47_10_e_1409_DNF_Dawidi.jpg|Dawidi and the DNF
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Image:2009-06-07 47 10 dan flora.jpg|Plant on Braxeninsel island
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Image:2009-06-07_47_10_e_1454_Frillensee.jpg|Neighbouring Frillensee lake
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Image:2009-06-07 47 10 dan panorama-frillensee.jpg|Frillensee closeup
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Image:2009-06-07_47_10_e_1455_from_shore.jpg|View from the shore
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Image:2009-06-07_47_10_e_1501_Shore.jpg|Walking along the shore
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Image:2009-06-07 47 10 0067.jpg|This is where the hashcards were bought.
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Image:2009-06-07 47 10 0068.jpg|This looks like fun, too. Too bad it was not really open.
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Image:2009-06-07 47 10 dan enten.jpg|Ducks next to the ''Biergarten''
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Image:2009-06-07 47 10 dan srs0radler.jpg|srs0 is forced to drink a ''Radler''...
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Image:2009-06-07 47 10 pi pubhash.jpg|...and so is thepiguy (Danatar is drinking voluntarily)
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Image:2009-06-07 47 10 dan srs0writing.jpg|Hashcard writing: "Look Ma, no hands!"
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Image:2009-06-07 47 10 dan relaxing.jpg|thepiguy and zb relaxing
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Image:2009-06-07 47 10 phone.jpg|Zomg! Crowded phone booth!
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</gallery>
  
That would be me and ''maybe'' Tomcat and Hans too. --[[User:Dawidi|dawidi]] 19:49, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
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=== Back ===
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<gallery>
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Image:2009-06-07_47_10_e_1705_bus.jpg|Bus back to Garmisch-Partenkirchen
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Image:2009-06-07 47 10 0070.jpg|It looks like the internet has been in Garmisch-Partenkirchen ever since the fifties! We can be glad that Garmisch is in neighboring 47 11, otherwise the graticule unlocked achievement would have been very questionable. Garmisch ''pwns''!
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Image:2009-06-07 47 10 0069.jpg|The storm is forming. Picture taken from the comfort of a bus seat.
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Image:2009-06-07_47_10_e_1752_Garmisch_station.jpg|Garmisch-Partenkirchen station - now the rain finally found us
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Image:2009-06-07_47_10_e_1835_Rainbow.jpg|Double rainbow as seen from the train
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Image:2009-06-07_47_10_wetbaer.jpg|In Munich the rain really found me
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</gallery>
  
===From München===
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== Achievement ribbons ==
In case I join in, my schedule would be included in almost all of the above. Leave München at 9:12 or at 10:12 both sound like good options for me. I know some of you have a trip quite longer than mine, but for me, 9:12 would be o.k. --[[User:Zb|Zb]] 20:12, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 
  
== Ticket organisation ==
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Let's collect them all! That will be an amazing collection, won't it?
  
* Bayern-Tickets are 20 EUR for one and 28 EUR for 5 people, and valid on the bus and parts of the BZB.
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* Calendar Girl for ... [[User:Baerenfell|Baerenfell]], [[User:Danatar|Danatar]] and [[User:thepiguy|thepiguy]]?
* Schönes-Wochenende-Ticket is 37 EUR for 5 people, but probably not valid on bus and BZB.
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: Picture is now uploaded so y'all have proof. --[[User:Zb|Zb]] 22:07, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
* Tickets have one holder, who must keep it all the time. The rest of the group may change (with small precautions)
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So, how many people come from where, and using which tickets?
+
... any more I did forget?
  
* Würzburg: x people, 1 Bayern-Ticket (holder: Danatar), 5-x places still free
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(still to be turned into ribbons)
* Regensburg: y people, 1 Bayern-Ticket (holder: Dawidi?), 5-y places still free
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{{
* Tübingen: 1 person, various options: either Wochenendticket (with 4 places free, 37 EUR, but not valid on BZB and bus); or Baden-Württemberg- and Bayern-Ticket for one person (39 EUR, no places free, or 47 with 4 places free). Depends on whether there are free places on the other Bayern-Tickets for the bus/BZB part. Joining another group for the ticket would only be cheaper if someone reroutes via Ulm or Neu-Ulm.
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Meet-up | latitude = 47 | longitude = 10 | date = 2009-06-07 | name = [[User:Baerenfell|Baerenfell]] and [[User:dawidi|dawidi]] and [[User:srs0|srs0]] and [[User:Danatar|Danatar]] and [[User:thepiguy|thepiguy]] and [[User:zb|zb]] and Hans and Tomcat and [[User:ekorren|ekorren]] | other = the respective other eight
* München: ? Own tickets or joining others? Only the Regensburg group goes via München both directions.
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}}{{
** Thanks for starting to figure this out, Ekorren. dawidi (and his fellows) and me (and my fellows) will be able to figure things out once we meet on the platform in München, I suggest. --[[User:Zb|Zb]] 08:44, 6 June 2009 (UTC) -- oh, and I just noticed that some decisions depend on us having free unused places on our tickets. I'll be able to say for sure tonight, maybe the same for dawidi? --[[User:Zb|zb]]
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Graticule unlocked
::The sooner the better, as I'd like to plan out my ICE trip(s) as soon as I can.  If you have a spare place on the tickets, I'll probably take the ICE both ways, as I want to save as much time as possible tomorrow. Regardless, I'll be taking the ICE home. -[[User:Srs0|Srs0]] 08:54, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
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    | latitude = 47
:::I might not know how many people will come with me (and thus how many free places there are on my/our ticket) until early morning tomorrow, so Zb may have to adjust his ticket-buying plans based on what I post then. (Since you don't have to get up as early, that should be ok.) --[[User:Dawidi|dawidi]] 08:58, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
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    | longitude = 10
::::Dawidi, this sounds good to me. I guess it's reasonable to meet you and Srs0 in München and just find out what's best for me to do.
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    | date = 2009-06-07
::::Srs0, if I read your plans right, you on ICE trains means you go through München both ways as well? As far as I can say at this time, it'll either be just me or me+2. It seems to be the same for dawidi: him, him+1 or him+2. Either way, it seems ''very'' likeley that we have an extra place on one of our tickets, so I suggest you get your ICE ticket to München (and back from there) anyway and we'll find a good way to share tickets from München to Eibsee. --[[User:Zb|Zb]] 09:05, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
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    | name = [[User:dawidi|dawidi]], [[User:srs0|srs0]], [[User:Danatar|Danatar]], [[User:thepiguy|thepiguy]], [[User:zb|zb]], Hans, [[User:Tomcat|Tomcat]], [[User:ekorren|ekorren]] and [[User:Baerenfell|Baerenfell]]
::::Yeah, I'm thinking of ICE521 (arrive at München at 09:04) and ICE780 (depart München at 20:20).  I'd have to find my way from München to München Gl.27-36, but I have an hour to do that on the way there. -[[User:Srs0|Srs0]] 09:19, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
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    | image = 2009-06-07 47 10 e Eibsee 1.jpg
:::::Here is a [http://www.bahnhof.de/site/shared/de/dateianhaenge/bahnhofsplaene/bahnhofsplan__muenchen.pdf Map of München Hbf]. Platforms 27-36 are those short stubs in the upper left corner. You basically have to follow platform 26 for about 200 m to get there. --[[User:Ekorren|Ekorren]] 09:25, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
 
:::::As Ekorren said: Don't worry about the Gl.27-36 issue. It just means it's a wing of the bulding with tracks 27-36, nicknamed ''Starnberger Bahnhof''. THe only reason why they use the special designation is that it takes slightly more time to walk from, say, track 16 to track 28 than from track 16 to track 20. Are you planning to reach RB30611, leaving München at 9:12 or RB5417, leaving München at 10:12? Dawidi was thinking about the 9:12, I am thinking about 10:12 and maybe meeting the folks from Würzburg there. Because, after all, in order to share tickets, we'd have to be on the same train. --[[User:Zb|Zb]] 09:29, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
 
::::::Thanks for the map and explanation, Ekorren and Zb!  I was thinking of the 10:12 train, to give me time to find some food or the like and to meet up with the other Würzburg people.  I'll probably get the tickets to and from München in a couple hours, as I have to go to the Hbf today anyways. -[[User:Srs0|Srs0]] 09:50, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
 
  
==Food==
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===In München, around the train station===
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Public transport geohash
For srs0 and others who have some time to kill in München: Bakeries within the train station are often expensive, only some are of good quality. My favourite one is ''not'' on the main floor where all the snack shops are, but one floor below, and it might be worth cheking if it's open on Sundays: Walk into the main hall, right behind the big display panel at the end of tracks 18 or 19. Take the short escalator down ''just one floor'', where signs indicate you're on the way to subways U1 and U2. There is a small bakery to your left. Quality of food is about as good as on the main floor, prices are way better.
 
  
Also, many good options for bakeries, and especially Döner and Börek and the like are South of the main station, along Goethestr. and on the corners of Schwanthalerstr. or Landwehrstr. and Goethestr. and Schillerstr. Basically all of this is just one block... It's a turkish neighbourhood, known for a ton of computer stores, (mostly) good snack restaurants and porn/tabledance shops, the latter of course always seem to be found around the train station in big European cities, no matter what other influences the neighbourhood actually has.
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    | longitude = 10
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    | date = 2009-06-07
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    | busline = various trains
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    | name = [[User:dawidi|dawidi]], [[User:srs0|srs0]], [[User:Danatar|Danatar]], [[User:thepiguy|thepiguy]], [[User:zb|zb]], Hans, [[User:Tomcat|Tomcat]], [[User:ekorren|ekorren]] and [[User:Baerenfell|Baerenfell]]
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    | image = 2009-06-07 47 10 hashers.jpg
  
Vegetarians might like spinach Börek with Feta (say: "Börek mit Spinat").
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water geohash
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    | latitude = 47
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    | longitude = 10
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    | date = 2009-06-07
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    | name = [[User:dawidi|dawidi]], [[User:Danatar|Danatar]], [[User:thepiguy|thepiguy]], [[User:srs0|srs0]], [[User:zb|zb]], Hans, [[User:Tomcat|Tomcat]], [[User:Baerenfell|Baerenfell]] and [[User:ekorren|ekorren]]
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    | image = 2009-06-07_47_10_dan_3boote.jpg
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    | vehicle = pedal boats and a rowing boat
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Underwater geohash
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    | latitude = 47
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    | longitude = 10
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    | date = 2009-06-07
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    | name = [[User:Danatar|Danatar]], [[User:thepiguy|thepiguy]] and [[User:Baerenfell|Baerenfell]]
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    | image = 2009-06-07 47 10 danatar.jpg
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}}{{
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Geoflashing
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    | latitude = 47
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    | longitude = 10
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    | date = 2009-06-07
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    | name = [[User:thepiguy|thepiguy]]
  
As far as food, avoid the streets East of the train station towards Karlsplatz. This is the center of the City. While there are nice buildings to see around Karlsplatz, it's really the touristy part with mostly restaurant chains. --[[User:Zb|Zb]] 10:03, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
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Hash collision | latitude = 47 | longitude = 10 | date = 2009-06-07 | name = All of us | id = GC17KQT | link = http://coord.info/GC17KQT | distance = ca. 400 m | honor = honorable mention
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Phonebooth stuffing
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    | longitude = 10
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    | date = 2009-06-07
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    | name = [[User:dawidi|dawidi]], [[User:srs0|srs0]], [[User:Danatar|Danatar]], [[User:thepiguy|thepiguy]], [[User:zb|zb]], Hans, [[User:Tomcat|Tomcat]], [[User:ekorren|ekorren]] and [[User:Baerenfell|Baerenfell]]
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pub geohash
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    | image = 2009-06-07 47 10 dan srs0radler.jpg
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Minesweeper geohash | graticule = Stuttgart, Germany | ranknumber = 5 | w = true | ne = true | n = true | sw = true | se = true | name = Ekorren
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Minesweeper geohash
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    | name = [[User:Baerenfell|Baerenfell]]
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consecutive geohash | count = 2 | latitude = 47 | longitude = 10 | date = 2009-06-07 | name = Zb
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gratuitous ribbon | color = white | icon = Voting.png | latitude = 47 | longitude = 10 | date = 2009-06-07 | achievement = Democracy Geohash Achievement | description = going voting on the way to the | name = Zb and Baerenfell
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Hashcard
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    | latitude = 47
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    | longitude = 10
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    | date = 2009-06-07
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    | recipient = [[User:lyx|lyx]] and [[User:relet|relet]] and [[User:Koepfel|Koepfel]] and [[User:Rhonda|Rhonda]]
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    | name = [[User:Baerenfell|Baerenfell]], [[User:dawidi|dawidi]], [[User:srs0|srs0]], [[User:Danatar|Danatar]], [[User:thepiguy|thepiguy]], [[User:zb|zb]], Hans, [[User:Tomcat|Tomcat]] and [[User:ekorren|ekorren]]
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    | image = 2009-06-07 47 10 hashcard.JPG
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}}
  
===At the geohash===
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<gallery>
I hope for a beer garden. --[[User:Zb|Zb]] 10:03, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
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Image:2009-06-07 47 10 hashcard.JPG|The hashcard sent to lyx and relet
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Image:2009-06-07 47 10 hashcard reverse.JPG|The picture on the hashcard sent to lyx and relet
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Image:2009-06-07 47 10-koepfel hashcard.jpg|A second hashcard was sent to Koepfel
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Image:2009-06-07 47 10 Hashcard-Rhonda.jpg|Another hashcard went to Rhonda
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</gallery>
  
==Weather==
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== Gratuitous comments ==  
[http://www.br-online.de/wetter/action/bayernwetter/bayern.do?regio=Oberbayern The forecast] says that rain and T'storms are likely until noon on Sunday, with improving conditions in the afternoon. Those who consider a hike around the lake or further up in the mountains should be prepared and use appropriate care. Swimming or being on the water during T'storms is no option, but it definitely should not keep us from going and finding out what it looks like tomorrow. --[[User:Zb|Zb]] 07:47, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
 
  
==Other stuff==
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... started coming in while the expedition was still in the [[2009-06-07 47 10/Plans|planning phase]] and may now be found at the [[Talk:2009-06-07 47 10|talk page]].
How warm would the water be this time of year? Warm enough for say... swimming? [[User:Thepiguy|Thepiguy]] 19:35, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 
:Probably very cold. --[[User:Ekorren|Ekorren]] 19:49, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 
::Crap. Too late to back out now. Anyone a life guard? I"m not sure if I remember how to swim. [[User:Thepiguy|Thepiguy]] 20:14, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 
:::Have you seen the [http://www.freizeit-eibsee.de/rw_e8v/main.asp?WebID=eibsee_frei&PageID=22 pedal boats with the slip'n'slide on the back], dude? --[[User:Zb|Zb]] 20:21, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 
::::Is that what "Rutschenboot" is? OMG! DONE! [[Special:Contributions/92.226.150.183|92.226.150.183]] 20:43, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 
:::::Affirmative. --[[User:Zb|Zb]] 21:19, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 
  
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Latest revision as of 11:34, 20 March 2024

Sun 7 Jun 2009 in Kempten, Germany:
47.4552086, 10.9767424
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Location

The hash is located on the Eibsee, a rather large mountain lake within of the Zugspitz mountain range, just below the highest peak in Germany.

Links:

Plans

The planning phase for this great expedition gained a lot of momentum and deserves its own page. Do not fear, nothing is lost; it is preserved in all of its greatness over at the other page.

Expedition report

Before the party of 9 partied

From Würzburg to München (Danatar, Srs0, Thepiguy)

Early.

With difficulty Danatar got up at 4:30 after 2 hours of sleep, but he nonetheless managed to meet thepiguy who was already waiting at the train station at 5:15. On the train Danatar tried to get some sleep, but the train seats are very uncomfortable to lie on so he didn't succeed. After 2 hours they arrived at Treuchtlingen and changed into a double decker train. From the upper floor the sight is slightly better than in a normal train and they could watch the beautiful landscape. They even saw 2 deer. At 9:30 the train arrived at München main station where ekorren was waiting for them directly at their platform.

thepiguy says...

Possibly my favourite expedition yet! I hope the pictures from the underwater camera turn out...

The crew from Regensburg (dawidi, Hans, Tomcat)

... who also came from quite far away.

All the way from Tübingen: Ekorren

... who even came from another state (BaWü)

It was a short night - if you can call that a night. More like almost no sleeping at all, as I was busy discussing, researching, preparing until deep into the night, and had to get up as early as 3 am. Left house a few minutes past four, and arrived at the station not really in time to go to an ATM first, or buy a ticket from a machine that accepts cards (they actually are slower). Luckily, I still had a prepaid Baden-Württemberg-Ticket, so I could just jump on the train and write the date into the right field.

Now, at Plochingen I changed to train for Ulm, to get the Unavoidable Public Transport Speed Racer Multihash first.

After having accomplished the task to not miss its tracks and thus also not miss the hash, the train went in for Ulm. I still needed to buy a Bayern-Ticket, so I took a short visit out of the station and found that the machines at the tramway station would sell me one that is both a good extension for my collection and payable with card, so saving me to find an ATM for the rest of the day, bought the ticket and caught a train to Augsburg and then to München. Shortly after my train arrived, Danatar and thepiguy should arrive from Würzburg, so I picked them up at their platform. We then found the others in the northers section of the station.

Two fellows from München (Baerenfell, zb)

... who almost appear to be couch potatoes, considering how far everyone else has traveled.

Baerenfell says...

Awesome Expedition with a lot of really nice and funny guys, nearly perfect weather and last, but not least a really cool spot. Also being one of the first to do an underwater geohash rules :) (proof to follow with full report).

And now I can put my hands on a huge lot of ribbons, YEEHAA!

Started the day with a final look at the planning page at about 9 am, packed my stuff and was on my way. The school I had to vote at, was just a few meters from home, so I stopped by and went did my civil duty (Claiming a "Democracy Geohash" for this). After that I cycled on to the Central Station to meet the others, which wasn't really complicated (everyone would recognize such a cool group | 2. Achievment today | Meet-up | all 8 ).

zb says...

First things first:

I know I sound like a hippie who has smoked his brains out when I say that this trip made me feel truly happy not only because the nature looked so nice, but -- even better -- because it was very fun to meet everyone else after having done a number of geohashes myself and even failed to meet dawidi once.

Koepfel, after today, your meetup graph will be in serious trouble if not completely FUBARed, but it's worth it because spending this great day with a group as nice and diverse was a big win. I mean it.

On to the report:

A preview of what was to be seen later this day.

I left the house around 8:30am and took a small detour to a nearby school house because it was election day for the European Parliament and the school is where I go to vote. A ribbon has even been suggested for this. While the school house itself was just as ugly as any German school house built in the seventies, it featured a nice painting next to one of its doors that must have been an indication about what was bound to happen later this day. See gallery below.

I stopped at a bakery in my neighborhood and rode my bike to the train station, where Srs0 had just arrived some minutes ago on his ICE train. When asking him, somewhat reluctantly, if he was, like, maybe on his way to, like, Garmisch, and stuff, he answered that yes, he was, so we introduced ourselves. He actually wasn't that hard to find because his right arm was of landmark quality with the cast he was wearing and he had an xkcd t-shirt. Despite the warning on the t-shirt, I hadn't stood back and he was nice enough to not try SCIENCE. We found another bakery and got him breakfast, including a Auszogne (meaning a one pulled apart) which is something like a Bavarian equivalent to a donut. Slightly later, everyone else showed up at the train station.

Some friends of mine were there, too, but they went on another train to another beautiful place in the mountains to celebrate a birthday. (Happy birthday, A.!)

From München to Eibsee

Some, like zb, were introduced to the hobby of geocaching by others, like Ekorren while we had time to kill until our train left.

The internet is over there.

Shortly after, we went along the very scenic tracks near Starnberger See, changed onto a bus in Tutzing because the electric wires above the train tracks were in the progress of being repaired further down the railroad line, making regular train traffic impossible. We decided to sit in the back of the bus, because we remembered from back when we were still using school buses that the back is where the cool people sit. We again got onto a train in Weilheim that took us to Garmisch-Partenkirchen. From the bus, we saw some very shiny new copper wires that had already been put up and, more importantly, some famous satellite dishes that were even shinier.

When you claim that you come from the internet, this exact village of dishes is indeed your hometown.

In Garmisch-Partenkirchen, Ekorren was quick to negotiate our possibilities and fares for going up to Eibsee on the really cool train, the Zugspitzbahn. It has to be said that the lady at the ticket counter was very helpful towards our group that must have seemed unusual, even by standards set at places where many tourists and groups of crazy school kids travel through.

The reasons why the Zugspitzbahn is really cool are: (a) It has tracks narrower than regular trains, (b) some parts of the tracks are so steep that it needs racks in addition to the rails. Thus, it has all the technology necessary to (c) take you up to the very top of Germany's highest mountain, the name of which is proudly featured on the display on the side of the train. Cool, eh?

The group is all set for our trip up the mountain!

(d) The train also makes for a really great backdrop for a group picture, as is evidenced in the picture here and in the gallery below.

While we went uphill to Eibsee, thepiguy got serious about his plans to swim in the Eibsee. Everyone could tell because he produced diving equipment from his backpack. We kept telling him that the water would be really really cold. Our guess was < 10°C, which was wrong, as we would see shortly after.

He just kept saying that now was not the time to think about cold water. The time to think about cold water was not before he would actually be in the air, after jumping off the boat, right before impact, when it would already be too late anyway. He was seriously committed.

At/On/In the lake

After having walked to the lake, we were offered a full choice of different vessels for rent. This is the part where we left the solid ground and went to find the water geohash. This is also where we all thank thepiguy for paying for the three boats we took out onto the lake: Thank you, pi!

While we had expected the water temperature to be very, very cold, a sign next to the boat rental shed said it was warmer than expected: 17°C.

Two pedal boats and one row boat went to the spot that numerous GPS devices were pointing at. When the coordinates were reached, many different things were done to appropriately celebrate the success:

Calendar Girls!
  • Three humans and Murray the hashcot went swimming.
  • The three humans even went under water.
  • And they posed for a Calendar Girl Achievement.
  • Because the panic of a human body immersed in cold water causes some shouting, we heard amazing echoes from our location on the lake. Allegedly, one sound produced on the lake causes as many as seven echoes, but this is a detail we were not able to reproduce.

After we were back on the land, a walk was done on the South shore, along a smaller lake (Frillensee), overlooking the geohash location and leading to another geocache. Just in case we have not mentioned yet: The area was extremely beautiful.

We bought hashcards, went to a beer garden, walked to the bus stop, mailed the hashcards, stuffed a phone box and started our journey home.

From Eibsee to München

We were really, really lucking out with the weather. Thunder and rain didn't really start before we were in the bus and already on the way home.

Besides, it's always amazing how different the way back feels compared to the way to some place.

After the party of 9 parted

The internet was here. Already, before we were, and ever since the fifties!

From München to Würzburg

When the train arrived at München, thepiguy and srs0 got out first and ran to catch an ICE train which left three minutes later. (...)

From München, Danatar had two trains to choose from to get home: One at 20:25 which would arrive at Würzburg at 0:06 and one at 21:09 which would arrive at 0:56. He had already decided earlier to visit his displaced origin hashpoint in this graticule and that would take all the time until the second option, so he said goodbye to everyone and went to buy a Döner. Then he went on his displaced origin expedition (read here).

Danatar returned from his displaced origin and boarded the train towards home. At Nürnberg he had to wait almost one hour to change his train. The big rock festival Rock im Park had taken place this weekend and Danatar could pass the time watching drunk and tired people moving around zombie-like in the station. When his train finally left the seats next to him were filled with people in a good temper, so Danatar couldn't even get some sleep. His train arrived in Würzburg a few minutes late, shortly after 1 am.

München, by bike, in the rain

Baerenfell: Left the others at the station in Munich to take the bike home (about 15 minutes). It started raining after a few meters and pouring after a few more. I didn't see much anymore and got totally drenched, but finally finished this great day with another look at the geohashing page. zb, while taking a slightly different route home, also got seriously drenched.

From München to Tübingen

There isn't much to tell. After the group mostly parted, only the Regensburg people and me were left, and also left was some time. So I picked another geocache description of a cache that was supposed to be about 400 m from the station, and we set off to search for that one. Without success, this time. As I see now, the cache has been successlessly searched by other people during the last few days, so it is probably lost. Also, we got hit by heavy rain during the search.

Since it was now late enough that there was only one connection left for me, I went back the same way I had been coming, via Augsburg, Ulm and Plochingen. The train from Ulm was a bit late, which resulted in an upgrade of the unavoidable multihash so that it now also was a Speed Racer geohash. Surprisingly, after a sprint through all of the station, I still caught the RE at Plochingen and reached Tübingen at 0:25. Usually, if the train from Ulm is late (which it usually is), you have to wait for the next train to Tübingen. Which goes only a few minutes later, anyway.

Gallery

(Notes moved to talk page)

From Würzburg to München (thepiguy, Danatar, srs0)

From Tübingen to München (ekorren)

München, doing democracy before the hash (zb)

From München to the lake

At/On/In and around the lake

Back

Achievement ribbons

Let's collect them all! That will be an amazing collection, won't it?

Picture is now uploaded so y'all have proof. --Zb 22:07, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

... any more I did forget?

(still to be turned into ribbons)

Meetup.PNG
Baerenfell and dawidi and srs0 and Danatar and thepiguy and zb and Hans and Tomcat and ekorren earned the Meet-up achievement
by meeting the respective other eight at the (47, 10) geohash on 2009-06-07.
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dawidi, srs0, Danatar, thepiguy, zb, Hans, Tomcat, ekorren and Baerenfell earned the Graticule Unlocked Achievement
by being the first to reach any hashpoint in the (47, 10) graticule, here, on 2009-06-07.
2009-06-07 47 10 e Eibsee 1.jpg
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dawidi, srs0, Danatar, thepiguy, zb, Hans, Tomcat, ekorren and Baerenfell earned the Public transport geohash achievement
by reaching the (47, 10) geohash on 2009-06-07 via various trains.
2009-06-07 47 10 hashers.jpg
Watergeohash.jpg
dawidi, Danatar, thepiguy, srs0, zb, Hans, Tomcat, Baerenfell and ekorren earned the Water geohash achievement
by reaching the (47, 10) geohash on 2009-06-07 by pedal boats and a rowing boat.
2009-06-07 47 10 dan 3boote.jpg
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Danatar, thepiguy and Baerenfell earned the Underwater geohash achievement
by reaching the (47, 10) geohash on 2009-06-07 while underwater.
2009-06-07 47 10 danatar.jpg
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thepiguy earned the Geoflashing Achievement
by stripping off at the (47, 10) geohash on 2009-06-07.
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All of us earned the Hash collision honorable mention
by discovering the geocache GC17KQT ca. 400 m from the (47, 10) geohash on 2009-06-07.
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dawidi, srs0, Danatar, thepiguy, zb, Hans, Tomcat, ekorren and Baerenfell earned the Phonebooth stuffing achievement
by helping stuff a phonebooth near the (47, 10) geohash on 2009-06-07.
Pubgeohash.jpg
dawidi, srs0, Danatar, thepiguy, zb, Hans, Tomcat and Baerenfell earned the Pub Geohash Achievement
by visiting a pub visible from the (47, 10) geohash on 2009-06-07.
2009-06-07 47 10 dan srs0radler.jpg
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Minesweeper geohash flag.png Minesweeper geohash 5.png Minesweeper geohash empty.png
Minesweeper geohash flag.png Minesweeper geohash empty.png Minesweeper geohash flag.png
Ekorren achieved level 5 of the Minesweeper Geohash achievement
by visiting coordinates in Stuttgart, Germany and 5 of the surrounding graticules.
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Minesweeper geohash flag.png Minesweeper geohash flag.png Minesweeper geohash empty.png
Baerenfell achieved level 2 of the Minesweeper Geohash achievement
by visiting coordinates in München, Germany and 2 of the surrounding graticules.
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Ekorren earned the Multihash Achievement
by reaching the 2009-06-07 48 9 and 2009-06-07 47 10 geohashes on 2009-06-07.
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Zb earned the Consecutive geohash achievement
by reaching 2 consecutive hash points starting on 2009-06-07.
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Zb and Baerenfell earned the Democracy Geohash Achievement
by going voting on the way to the (47, 10) geohash on 2009-06-07.
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Baerenfell, dawidi, srs0, Danatar, thepiguy, zb, Hans, Tomcat and ekorren earned the Hashcard achievement
by sending a postcard of the hashpoint area to lyx and relet and Koepfel and Rhonda on the (47, 10) expedition on 2009-06-07.
2009-06-07 47 10 hashcard.JPG

Gratuitous comments

... started coming in while the expedition was still in the planning phase and may now be found at the talk page.